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RE: Frozen Embryos and Stem Cells - 6/22/2007 11:18:01 AM

luckydog1

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I just recently read that they have learned how to turn marrow cells into embroyinc stem cells, I believe it was a us company doing work in Brazil, so much of this debate is just spillover from the abortion debate, not an honest debate on where we as a society and world should go with this new technology.

Personally I am leery of this stuff because of 2 main reasons. One it is a slippery slope towards engineering and comercialization of "humans". Many horrible things will come along with the cures.( and I am watching a man be destroyed by Parkinsons, it is horrible)And secondly this (like all scientific solutions) will produce many unforseen problems. Everyone thought Internal Combustion engines were great also, then they reordered our society and are mucking up our atmosphere. Or "we can cure infections", and 3 generations later there are 11 billion and rising people on the planet.

One of the most ironic things I see in life is that so many people who are absolutly Anti GMO food are hell bent to GM people ASAP. Remeber these modified cures will mutate, causing mostly problems, and they spread in unintended ways (see GMO food). We have no idea what the hell we are doing, and the work is being done mostly by "geniouses" who can do math at levels I can not comprehend but consider asthetics, literature and art to be irrelevant. One who understands a tree at the micro cellular level, but can't see a forest.

If the miracle cure came from the killing of 8 year olds would anyone be in favor growing farms of them to harvest?

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RE: Frozen Embryos and Stem Cells - 6/22/2007 11:42:05 AM

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luckydog1,

Are you able-bodied? I watched not only my grandfather but my mother deteriorate from Parkinson's for 25 years. It's a slow death. Enjoy the show and know you and those of your ilk's "moral consciousness" is ever so appreciated.

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RE: Frozen Embryos and Stem Cells - 6/22/2007 12:18:48 PM

SirRober

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Ok lets take this 1 step at a time. Working with unknowns here. so I will make up my own times.
Lets say that a FE has a shelf life of 2 mos before it is no longer useable. for implant babies. BUT still has a medical research shelf life of 2 mos after that.
With above statment I see no issues with using the FE's.

Now lets look at 2 things ... pro life, pro choice.

Pro life people belive that once fertalized the fetus is alive. <----So wtf are you doing outside a abortion clinic.
Pro choice people belive my body my choice. <----- So why aren't you using protection so you don't make babies.

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RE: Frozen Embryos and Stem Cells - 6/22/2007 11:26:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: aviinterra
To actually have honest medicine and research, you would have to take money out of the equation, something that is almost impossible right now.

But there are more countries involved in research than just the USA and even within the USA, not all research is under the domain of pharmaceutical companies. I submit, for your review, the following non-profit research facility.

http://www.hhmi.org/about/

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan
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So maybe not trained personal but more people none the less.

Yes, if every single birth was to have cord blood collect, but that wouldn't be necessary (other than the moms who want to have it stored for their child's possible future use), so I don't think the personnel numbers would be that dire. :)

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