Exploring.... with questions (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Introductions] >> Introduce yourself



Message


shatuga -> Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 8:13:14 AM)

Hello everyone...

It's nice to be here.

Being somewhat new to "the lifestyle" and not entirely sure what that means, I have some questions. Of course I'm seeking out appropriate forums whereI can to ask them but one question I have here doesn't seem to have a forum.

For 10 years or so I've been into roleplay in fantasy settings and I very much enjoy that. As an older guy, the barriers to participating in it have gone down over the years. Nobody cares about age so much anymore in those settings. Nor do they care about gender as much as they used to.

I still recall the first day I played my first female character. Everything about her was so natural to me, and at first the experience was confusing. Back in that day it was fairly common but not so acceptable to cross-play, either. So I just kept mum about my real life gender. As it turns out, people assumed I was female and after a few years of not correcting that assumption I learned a big lesson in ... honesty.

That being said, over the years I've questioned myself about my inner nature, and why it gets seen by so many people as "female" as opposed to "male." I've come to hate those labels, actually.... Yes I am a male physically but the things that define me as a person and how I interact with others are unique, as is true for us all.

Lately my best friend has discovered that she's well, a lesbian. For awhile in one our fantasy games, our characters were lovers, till she started exploring in real life and found some real life partners. I don't have that option. I've often had my own fantasies of sex *as* as lesbian, and certainly bondage and pain play into my own internal thoughts and fantasies, but.....

Fortunately my partner is starting to understand me. I'm here to understand myself better, to maybe make a few friends, and see what comes!

... this place seems to divide people into categories and relies on use of these labels a lot, and one of them that is not questioned is the 'male' / 'female' label for sure. I suppose many thing that you either ARE a male or a female - well, here in Asheville we don't really have a need to label our sexuality or our gender so much!

How do I present myself? If I said "male" I'd not be so honest about who I am inside as a person and how I make love. If I said "female" I'd be lying about my physical .. um... manifestation!

That's what I am currently struggling with.

Any advice is welcome!






MstrssPassion -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 8:25:45 AM)

Quite some time ago several of members petitioned to get a board listed for (lack of a better term) transgendered topics. It didn't happen.

There are quite a large number of us on the boards that are very well versed in subjects that relate to gender identity & expression. Might I suggest that you post topics that don't related directly to BDSM to the Off Topic board... but don't be shocked to see it removed or worse yet... those who are not so open minded to this subject jumping in with less than favorable commentary.

As you become more involved with the boards, even if just reading rather than posting, you will stumble upon the many members who would be more than happy to contribute to these topics with positive & experienced commentary.

Let me take this time to welcome you to the boards. I look forward to reading more from you in the future.

ps... try searching the archives for threads that relate to things you wish to talk about. There are many recent threads that touch on everything gender play to transsexualism.




GoddessinDallas -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 11:20:50 AM)

Quite simply put...
You are MALE.
You have it on your profile on here too.
MALE.
People are XY or XX.
If you are having a problem with your identity and identifying who YOU are...may I suggest that you find someone who can help you define that more clearly to you.

You must accept you for who you are before others can.




shatuga -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 11:26:15 AM)

Thanks but I don't have problem with my MALEness..... I just don't fit into the typical role as a "man". I'm very comfortable with who I am, my gender, and whatnot. I do not have gender identity "issues" - I've just discovered some things about myself that are surprising.

I just don't know how to communicate to others exactly what that is. Do you have any suggestions?





fadedlace -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 11:30:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shatuga

Thanks but I don't have problem with my MALEness..... I just don't fit into the typical role as a "man". I'm very comfortable with who I am, my gender, and whatnot. I do not have gender identity "issues" - I've just discovered some things about myself that are surprising.

I just don't know how to communicate to others exactly what that is. Do you have any suggestions?




With all due respect, I'm 51, have known a lot of men over the years, and have no idea what the "typical role as a man" is.  Every man is different from every other man.




MstrssPassion -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 11:46:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessinDallas

Quite simply put...
You are MALE.
You have it on your profile on here too.
MALE.
People are XY or XX.
If you are having a problem with your identity and identifying who YOU are...may I suggest that you find someone who can help you define that more clearly to you.

You must accept you for who you are before others can.


The highlighted text above is in fact incorrect.
The world is not so black & white.






stef -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 11:49:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessinDallas

Quite simply put...
You are MALE.
You have it on your profile on here too.
MALE.
People are XY or XX.

Except for all the ones who aren't.  Life isn't always so simple, "Goddess."

~stef, who is amused at the irony of this thread's topic and the acronym the initials of your username represents.




shatuga -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/23/2007 12:05:51 PM)

I do realize that many people see things more concretely than others, and I accept that. I don't really need anyone's acceptance specifically. I've got people that know and love me!

And yeah there is no such thing as a "typical male" I suppose but even outside of the stereotype I have some .... odd... qualities. Odd things I love... don't we all?

Thing is.... people who get to know me without seeing my profile, or knowing my name, or whatever... I end up having to CONVINCE them that I am in fact male. It's just the way I am I guess? How I talk? What things are important to me.... Certainly not by any stretch "typically female" either.

Goddess I hate stereotypes! I hate having my personality and my nature put in a box because of the way I look and the thing between my legs (which I do in fact appreciate very much!). And here, of all places, people should feel free to be themselves, yes?

Which is odd, since this place is overrun with labels for all the little boxes we as humans just looooooove to put one another in. Bleck.

I still have an outstanding question: Where do LBGT topic posts go?

Shatuga




chellekitty -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/24/2007 1:38:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shatuga.

I still have an outstanding question: Where do LBGT topic posts go?

Shatuga



unfortuanatley there is no set place for them...if you can find a more "general" topic to post them in, such as "ask a sub" for advice from the "bottom" half or "ask a master: if you're looking for advice from the top half...or "general bdsm" if you are looking for advice from whomever and it has to do with bdsm...anywhere from relationship dynamics to fetishes to specific kinks...if all else fails, the "off topic" boards...but you might have to deal with opinionated asses if they think you are for some reason "unfit" (blah...)  ...i find these boards like many area's of life, you gotta take everything with a grain of salt, use what you like/need and discard the rest...and don't respond to the asses, flame wars help nothing, and like all bullies if you ignore them they go away, its not satisfying if you don't respond...
good luck...
chelle
House Infernus




MstrssPassion -> RE: Exploring.... with questions (6/24/2007 10:56:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shatuga

I still have an outstanding question: Where do LBGT topic posts go?

Shatuga



As I mentioned before... several of us petitioned before to get a transgendered board (one that was also GLBT in nature)

Nothing became of it & for a very long time... all threads that went that direction were deleted.

There are many gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, genderqueer, genderneutral & androgynous (I know I probably left someone out) posters on the board. So long as the topics apply to the board theme... post where appropriate. If it deviates from all things "lifestyle", "bdsm", "D/s or M/s" & is purely a GLBT topic then you will need to post it to the Off Topic board.

Just don't be freaked if it gets moved to Polls & Random Stupidity (which often the case when threads get a bit heated)




Page: [1]

Valid CSS!




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy
0.015625