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slaveboyforyou -> U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 1:56:13 PM)

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2007/06/23/4284119-ap.html

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - It began with an inmate pen-pal program. It blossomed into poetry. It led to a marriage.
James Lewis Morgan and the former Tracy Cope are husband and wife. She, formerly of Nottinghamshire, England. He, of death row at Central Prison in Raleigh....

Why the hell do people do this?  I am not picking on the women, because I have heard of men doing this too.  But it never ceases to amaze me when I hear these stories. 




popeye1250 -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 2:00:47 PM)

For the Insurance money?




seeksfemslave -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 2:52:39 PM)

Or had problems with her father, who was only trying to teach he right from wrong. lol




Vendaval -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 4:54:19 PM)

"Why are Woman drawn to Men behind bars?"
 
Monday January 13, 2003

" In her book, Women Who Love Men Who Kill, Sheila Isenberg examines the phenomenon of prison lovers and finds genuine and universal bewilderment among the women at their situation. Even if they have had a series of romances with prisoners or, like one British woman, been engaged to several death-row inmates - all of whom were executed - they still claim not to have chosen that course for themselves. Karen Richey's partner, for instance, is on death row in Ohio. Karen says that she wasn't looking for a love affair when she made contact with Kenny, a 38-year-old Scot: "My war cry is that I only wanted to be a pen pal. Kenny insists this is going to be on my grave stone."

It takes considerable effort to meet men in secure containment facilities. Many women will write to a number of prisoners before they finally make a sustainable connection. They may even take on voluntary jobs in prison, or go on blind-date visits with men they know only by reputation.

As on the outside, famous people attract a disproportionate amount of attention because of the glamour that surrounds them and ordinary people's desire for vicarious celebrity. Serial killer Richard Ramirez, the so-called Night Stalker, who murdered and dismembered 13 people in the 1980s, had no trouble finding a bride. Doreen Lioy started writing to Ramirez after falling for his picture in the paper. They were married in 1996 in the prison waiting room.

Both Ramirez and Ted Bundy, a rapist-murderer who was suspected of murdering 35 young women, attracted gangs of admiring groupies who sat patiently through their court cases. Even John Wayne Gacy - not the most eligible man, with a history of drugging, raping and murdering 30 young men in Chicago - ended up marrying a woman he met while awaiting the death penalty.

So what other reasons could there be for so many women being attracted to convicted criminals? Isenberg suggests that vicarious murder may sometimes be a motivating factor. It is easier for the lovers of these men to overlook violence if they have considered it themselves: "Even while she denies his culpability, it is his ability to murder that attracts her. He acted on his rage, however unsuitably. [The woman] could never act on her rage. So [his] murder is [her] murder," she says.

It is certainly true that many prison brides have a history of violent relationships. Isenberg draws positive conclusions from this, arguing that an imprisoned partner may be a healthy strategy for women who are attracted to violent men, allowing them to engage without putting themselves in physical danger.

Religious fervour is another, more obvious motivator. Evangelical Christian schemes bring women into contact with prisoners and provide a basis for intense emotional interaction.

Jacquelynne Willcox-Bailey's book Dream Lovers: Women Who Marry Men Behind Bars is a series of interviews conducted with Australian women. The most melancholy story concerns two middle-aged Christian sisters, Avril and Rose, who left long-term "boring" marriages for men in prison. One man had been convicted of a string of minor property offences, the other man had killed his previous wife. His new wife, Rose, said: "I have faith that if you're genuine with the Lord you're a new person. A lot of people have said I should be worried about him because of what he did and his background - which is pretty awful and violent - but I have no fear."
Despite the women's faith, both relationships ended tragically: a week after his release the thief bludgeoned Avril to death with a hammer. The other husband ended up back in prison after trying to cut Rose's ear off and pull out her teeth with pliers.

However, it is rare that the most disturbing type of relationship is formed.

Hybristophiliacs are sexually excited by violent outrages performed on others. These women often send pornographic pictures of themselves to prisoners. The self-styled "most violent prisoner in Britain", Charles Bronson, publishes photos he receives on his website.

But not all hybristophiliacs are passive admirers. A playwright named Veronica Lynn Compton began a torrid affair with one of the Hillside Stranglers, a pair of cousins who abducted, raped and mutilated very young women before ritualistically displaying their corpses on hillsides in Los Angeles in the 1970s. As part of an elaborate defence strategy, one of the stranglers, Kenneth Bianchi, asked Compton to kill a woman using his modus operandi.

DNA evidence was not then available - only the blood type could be determined from a fluid sample - so he asked her to sprinkle the dead body with his sperm, and passed her a sample in a rubber glove. Compton tried but bungled the attempt and her prospective victim got away. By the time Compton was imprisoned for the attempted murder, Bianchi had married a different woman. Compton found another sexual serial killer to romance. One year he sent her a photo of a decapitated female corpse as a Valentine card.

But most prison romances are not so extreme. Generally the women are decent, well-meaning and it is easy to see why they find their relationships fulfilling. Their boyfriends spend their days exercising and their evenings writing letters and poems or trying to phone home. They are more compliant and attentive than they would be on the outside because the women send money, pay for their legal representation and afford them the tremendous parole advantage of a permanent address.

Prison relationships retain the intoxicating elements present in every romance. The first endorphin-flush of love always involves a degree of transference; we all see our partners as we hope them to be, imagining that the love object embodies the qualities we crave. Polzin projected remorse into Harris's puffy eyes. It is only as the initial infatuation ebbs that we begin to realise which of those assumptions were actually true.

Woman with imprisoned partners have limited contact and need never move beyond this courting stage. The intense desire for each other need never translate to the ordinariness of sex and marriage.

But, as clinical psychologist Dr Stuart Fischoff says, the love object is "almost irrelevant at this point. He's a dream lover, a phantom limb". Such fantasy projection can be used to wish away any aspect of reality. The excuses the women give for their partner's alleged crimes operate as in all other relationships. They do what we all sometimes do when faced with negative information about loved ones: they refuse to believe it. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gender/story/0,,873496,00.html




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 8:47:25 PM)

I'm going to post here the same thing I posted on Fark in reply to this article...

"At least she won't nag him to death."

*duh dum ching*




lighthearted -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 10:58:30 PM)

my only guess that some women are so desperate to be married, they are willing to marry a criminal. 




trixxitrash -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/24/2007 11:48:05 PM)

I knew a woman who woman was a big time anti-death panalty activist, who claimed to have gone to jail and had a conjugal visit with an inmate shortly before his execution in order to "hook a brother up before he goes." she saw it as an act of compassion, and i believe she genuinely was a compassionate person. I thought it was one of the most beautiful things i had ever heard. To me, she was the embodiment of the christian values forgiveness and not beining judgmental.

Since we're on the topic of sex, love and serilal killers, I remember watching Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer in a hotel room with a hooker I had hired (in a jurisdiction where prostitution is legal). It was kinda cool. We were just laying in bed after sex watching t.v. and it came on, so we lay there and watched it.




bbwsubnnorcal -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/25/2007 12:14:17 AM)

Desperate for marriage no.  There are several who leave their marriages to a criminal who has no chance of ever getting out of prison. 

IMHO... these women (and men) are looking for love that they think is so pure and so honest.... so fantastical that only THEY understand it (and we mere mortals scoff at it).  Only THEY accept this person for what they see him/her as...

Too bad that is aaaalllllll FANTASY on their part.

I knew a person a while back (when IRC first hit).  She stopped talking to her husband. Stopped taking care of her children. Stopped socializing... When her family had an intervention... she told them all to leave her alone and none of them were here "REAL" friends, that only her "REAL" were on the internet.

Fantasy, projection, not wanting to deal with reality.  It all goes hand in hand.

Now these folks have the perfect lovers...why? Because the other person is not their to ruin everything by not taking out the garbage when asked, watching TV and going out with their friends (or connections) rather than spending "quality" time with him/her. They don't yell or hit. Why? Because they aren't there.







LuvnHome4FemSub -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/25/2007 12:32:37 AM)

That poor woman was most likely sucked in real good by that loser. All those guys in prison are nothing but cons. I know as my son is one of those very men. I hate how he uses women to get what he wants from them, then throws them to the side as soon as their wallets run dry. I get the phone calls asking why he did what he did, and I tell them I told you he wasn't what you thought he was.
 
I love him, he is my son, but I hate what he does. He is on his own where my wallet is concerned, and has been since his second time in prison. The rest of the family feels the same. So, he finds women to fall for his line and they begin sending him money on his books or for his phone cards. Then he uses the cards to call the rest of the women he has sucked in. It is a damn shame.
 
I don't know how many times he has sent me letters asking me to quit telling girls what I think. Hey, he keeps introducing them to me via letters or phone calls. Sorry about his bad luck.

There are too many lonely women who fall for the bs they send in their letters. Their lines are smooth, but ours would be too if all we had to do was sit around all day polishing it.




NorthernGent -> RE: U.K. woman marries pen pal on death row (6/25/2007 2:40:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuvnHome4FemSub

That poor woman was most likely sucked in real good by that loser.



I doubt it. It's quite common over here. Fucking axe murderers and serial torturers is all in a day's work for British women. 'Globalisation out of control.




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