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daddysprop247 -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 12:18:54 PM)

hmm...this is something that can be difficult to put into words that adequately explain the truth of it. but for me this is natural...being in subservience to others. serving and pleasing others, in particular men, is something that fulfills me within. it is like the sun is rising and setting according to plan...all is as it should be. i serve my Master because i am his property and it is my duty to serve and please him. yes i do love him dearly, and worship him as well to be honest, but that is not motivation for my submission. my submission is just an instinctive quality.




kyraofMists -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 5:24:31 PM)

The short answer is that it ultimately fulfills me.

The long answer is that I have an internal drive to transfer all authority over to my intimate partner.  To hold back from him causes me stress.  To know that he is holding back in taking what he wants causes me stress.  To know that he has pushed me as far as he thinks that it is healthy to push gives me great satisfaction.  The push can happen in any aspect of our life and not just play.

I have mentioned this before, but as a slave I need a balance between the things that bring me pleasure, the things I am indifferent to and the things that challenge me.  If it is all pleasure and no challenges then I will start to get stressed.  If the challenges are not balanced by pleasures I will get stressed.

Most times I get great satisfaction out of pleasing him.  However there are times that it is a challenge to please him and there is no pleasure in it for me.  Those times are getting less and less the longer we are together.  Those moments provide their own reward though.  I do not want to submit to someone in the way that I desire.  I want to submit to someone in the way that they desire. 

Knight's Kyra




marieToo -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 5:46:10 PM)

I don't really look at it from an angle of 'whose pleasure is this about' .
 
To me, it's about a particular type of intimacy that results from the Ds aspects of a relationship; the inequality, the surrender, the serving etc.  

Do I desire to feel and share that type of intimacy with someone? Yes. 

That's why I do it.




angelsub29 -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 10:21:42 PM)

great post. a question for y'all who are into 24/7. do you ever feel like you're doing it because it's what your dom(me) wants and you love him/her, but that it's not a setup you'd choose on your own?




peppermint -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 10:42:39 PM)

quote:

. do you ever feel like you're doing it because it's what your dom(me) wants and you love him/her, but that it's not a setup you'd choose on your own?


To answer angelsub's question....NO.

I love doing things to make another's life easier.  For several years i cared for an ill and dying relative.  When he passed away i so missed being able to do for someone else.  Now i'm with someone 24/7 who needs me as a companion as well as someone to do the domestic chores such as cooking and cleaning.  I'm happy...he's happy. 




slavegirljoy -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 10:45:51 PM)


ABSOLUTELY, 100% the SAME for me! 
 
This is who i am and how i need to live.  i can't be any other way.  i have tried before in my life and it doesn't work for me. 
 
Pleasure?  i don't even take that into consideration, because my NEED to be subservient and to be owned and to do my best to make my Master's life better, far outweighs any hedonistic drives within me. 
 
i find pleasure in many of the things that i do throughout the day but, at the end of the day, what matters to me and my sense of inner peace and contentment is being able to answer the question, "Did i help make my Master's life better today by being here?", with "Yes, i did."
____________
slave joy
Owned property of Master David

 
"..and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."
 

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I do it because it's what I am.

Meeting his needs meets my needs.




slavegirljoy -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 10:56:46 PM)

i needed to be a 24/7, live-in, owned slave to a strong, strict, sadistic, caring, intelligent, honest, and kind Master.  That is what i looked for and that is what i found and i can't imagine ever living happily anything other way ever again.
____________
slave joy
Owned property of Master David


"..and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelsub29

great post. a question for y'all who are into 24/7. do you ever feel like you're doing it because it's what your dom(me) wants and you love him/her, but that it's not a setup you'd choose on your own?




TennesseeRain -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/25/2007 11:05:07 PM)

Serving Him completes me, fulfills me, and gives me joy.  My service to Him, is for me.  Seeing His pleasure in me affirms me.




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 5:53:45 AM)

For me it is how I choose to live because I that is what I need to do. I wouldn't choose any other way.




SubinMaine -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 8:31:40 AM)

For me it is a mutual gratification.  Obviously Sir is pleased by the submissive behavior and for me, well, i've always worried about others first.  Even before i got my feet wet within this lifestyle, other's needs always came before mine.  If i couldn't do so, i would brood about it and be moody...i was only really happy making sure other's were happy.  That makes sense, right? *smile*




RCdc -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:05:29 AM)

Submission and Domination are selfish acts - whether you do it out of 'love' or 'need' or 'want' or whether you do something to for the dominant above your owns desires first.
 
Peace
the.dark.




shyinini -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:08:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Submission and Domination are selfish acts
 
please explain your thoughts here, please?
 
 - whether you do it out of 'love' or 'need' or 'want' or whether you do something to for the dominant above your owns desires first.
 
Peace
the.dark.

 
Sir's cumslut




IrishMist -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:15:08 AM)

I would agree that they are selfish acts. I was always motivated by love; a love that I felt for him; it gave me pleasure, made me smile, caused me to look for more ways to please to him. Yet, it was how I felt that caused the motivation, not how he felt ( I could not 'feel' his feelings, I could only see the pleasure that I brought him ). I wanted those feelings; not for him, but because they made ME happy. His happiness may have been the final step on the ladder, the place where it all ended; but without the feelings that I had, there would have been no reason to make him happy.

Yes, submission and dominance; they are indeed very selfish acts I believe.




RCdc -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:16:52 AM)

Because you want something in return - whether it is acceptance or to be dominated or to have someone submit to you so you can dominate - you still require something in return - even if its that 'buzz' you like or the fact you are doing something you were 'born to be'.  All of these result in selfishness.  Nothing wrong with it and incredibly healthy and self aware.

Peace
the.dark.




shyinini -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:24:32 AM)

Thank you, I never of thought of it that way before.
 
Sir's "selfish" cumslut  [:D]




daddysprop247 -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:36:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Because you want something in return - whether it is acceptance or to be dominated or to have someone submit to you so you can dominate - you still require something in return - even if its that 'buzz' you like or the fact you are doing something you were 'born to be'.  All of these result in selfishness.  Nothing wrong with it and incredibly healthy and self aware.

Peace
the.dark.



what if you don't want anything in return? what if the act of submission doesn't necessarily give you any pleasure? what if you don't even want to submit all of the time?




MasterNangel -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:54:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelsub29

great post. a question for y'all who are into 24/7. do you ever feel like you're doing it because it's what your dom(me) wants and you love him/her, but that it's not a setup you'd choose on your own?


No, because I made the choice to live with Master and to belong to him.  I chose it all on my own, and I don't regret a moment of it.  We all have free will in our lives, some of us just choose to give that up to someone else in most, if not all aspects.

You should always know what you are getting into, and not make the commitment to belong to them until you are ready for it.  Real life is different than fantasy, but it can still be wonderful and fulfilling.  It's just both people caring about the other and putting the effort forth.

Angel




RCdc -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 9:59:41 AM)

So why are you submitting, if you don't wish to submit?  To cause the dominant (in your case your daddy) to be happy?  Because it just 'is' what you are?  Even when you are pleasing someone else, the selfishness is there... even when it's just being yourself.  Every single response here, shows a selfish act, including yours.
 
But then I am of the mind that there is no such thing as a selfless act.
 
Peace
the.dark.




slavegirljoy -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 10:05:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterNangel
Real life is different than fantasy, but it can still be wonderful and fulfilling.  It's just both people caring about the other and putting the effort forth.

Angel


For me, Real Life has always been so much better than any fantasy, because it is REAL and because it lasts a lot longer. 
 
i agree that people caring about each other and putting forth the effort is very important, or even critically important, in order to have a satisfying and healthy long term M/s or D/s relationship.
____________
slave joy
Owned property of Master David

 
  "..and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."
-- F. Nietzsche




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Why do you do it? (6/26/2007 10:23:13 AM)

For me the fulfilling relationships are always ones in which everyone is working towards the fulfillment of everyone.




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