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Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/25/2007 2:00:39 PM

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Hi
I have seen a few threads in the past about Financial Domination - many seem to belittle this type of Domination, assuming that all Dommes are doing is scamming people.

But after reading a thread written by a moneypig, well I started to wonder, what is it really? it cannot be as simple and shallow as purely sending money to an unknown and faceless person, there MUST be more to it, if done properly.

How do others define it?

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/25/2007 10:04:17 PM

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this is posisbly the best explaination I ever found on the topic:

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

I do agree with you about the people who take advantage of a free site to advertise to make money for themselves. I find it tacky at the best. While the site is free, they still have bandwidth charges and expenses. They should NOT be footing the bill of people who are here to make money. I truly feel that anyone requesting money, be it financial Domination or Pro Domination should pay to place their ad, even if it is a nominal fee. Five dollars a month would cut down on the number of ads placed just because people can, and it would help out with the bandwidth. People who are using the service for profit should be putting back into the site. Any who do not are taking advantage of the site and it's owners who are trying to give something back to the community.

Pro Domination is when you pay a woman (or man) to Dominate you. This is a pure monetary transaction. You are paying for her expertise and contributing to the upkeep of her dungeon and toys. It is a nececary service since many lifestyle Domme are not willing to deal with married subs and some subs do not have the interest level to keep a lifestyle Domme. Some only feel the need to submit once a month. Most lifestyle Domme expect a lot more than that or they consider it a user relationship. Pro Domme have a reputation and you should check the reputation of any Pro before visiting them. Not everyone who claims to be a Pro is worthy of that title. Pro implies that they have a level of skill. A Pro should be able to tell you where she learned each skill, be willing to provide references and such. I've run into a lot of guys who have met "pros" on this site who turned out to be women with no experience but were asking for money to play with a guy. Tip offs that you should be warry of a "Pro": they do not work out of a dungeon and insist that you pay for a hotel or that you meet in one of your homes - they could still be a real Pro, but it sends up red flags, they do not have a selection of toys -part of being a Pro is providing the tools used on the submissive, they have less than several years of experience in real time Domination - you don't learn skills overnight.

Financial Domination is when the Dominant controls the money of the sub. It also includes men who want to pay a woman for the pleasure of her company. There are people who find this a sexual or power turn on. I know of one Domme who pays her subs for the pleasure of thier company, because she says that by paying them, she has the right to do whatever the hell she pleases to them. That is a bit of an odd twist, but it still comes under this heading because it is a fetish involving money. That is the crux.. it is money used in a sexual/power dynamic. It should be a turn on for both people involved.

And yes, there are far more women who want to be financial Domme than men who want to be financial subs. I consider most of the Domme in the financial Domination realm to be there to make a buck, rather than having a true fetish about it.

I do agree that a sub should bring something to the relationship financially even in a lifestyle relationship. Because I have a wagonload of toys, I was constantly having subs want to play with me to try out X or Y. I'd tell them fine, buy it for me and I'll use it on you. I am not willing to foot the bill for the wear and tear on MY toys because someone else wants to try it out. It got to the point of being so prevalent that subs just wanted to use me for my toys, that I'd tell a sub I wanted him to provide ALL toys to be used on him the first few sessions. I was shocked at the number of men who called me a pro in disguise because I wanted them to contribute to the relationship. I didn't care what they brought or WHO ended up with the toys, just that mine were not being worn out playing with some jerk who was using me as a service top. Since that did not fully take care of the "subs" trying to use me as a service top, I started requiring that they contribute a toy from my wishlist to my collection the first time we played. The items on my wishlist range from $18 to $200, and they were free to choose what they wanted. That item would be used on them, so I told them to choose well. I never required another gift of any type from the sub, (although if he didn't show up with something on my birthday, heaven help him. That is true of any relationship though. *grins*)

For some reason, many subs seem to think that the offer of their body is enough to make us want to play with them. We are women. We are not driven by the need to have sex with anything that moves. You have to bring more to the table. For me, what I want brought to the table over the long term is love and devotion. What others seek differers. All relationships are a transaction of sorts. I feel MadameDahlia did a good job of explaining it in http://www.collarme.com/forum/m_68580/mpage_1/key_transaction/tm.htm#68899

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/26/2007 1:53:36 PM

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Rob
Thanks for this, its a well written piece.
Interesting that many people like to moan about tributes, but not so many want to try to define or understand why it happens.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/26/2007 2:05:30 PM

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"Interesting that many people like to moan about tributes, but not so many want to try to define or understand why it happens."

I personally believe the best tribute you can give to me is your devotion and time. Money is nice but follow through is so much better! I understand that some want money for various reasons; I want you to see something somewhere that I might like then think to yourself "My mistress would love this little token" and get it. I don't mean thousands in jewels, cars or houses. I mean small things that make a difference. Robert knew I had a miserable day the other day and he came home with Twizzlers and Sno Caps for me...my two favorite "junkie junk food". It was sweet and showed he not only listens to what I say day to day, but he remembers too.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/28/2007 8:57:38 PM

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BeachMystress said:. For me, what I want brought to the table over the long term is love and devotion.

I agree with the above, and add:

It IS a kink of mine; fun, and exciting.

*Blushes.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/28/2007 10:25:32 PM

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I do not think there is a fine, clear and cut way to define financial domination... and not all Dommes into Financial Domination are into it, to make a "buck". I would agree there are some "so-called" Dommes out there who aren't really Dominants at all, and are really just around to make money, but then, they really aren't Dominants at all, are they and shouldn't fall under the heading of Domme.

I never really knew or understood Financial Domination until one day when a submissive male approached me himself and asked me if he could become my sub and told me he had a money fetish. Like in every aspect of the BDSM Lifestyle.. Financial Domination has the very mild form clear to the very extreme form to the fetish. It could be something as simple as requiring the sub to pay for things for you like new clothes, eating out etc... or clear to something as extreme as controlling their bank accounts, credit cards, bills and total finances. It's not a fetish for everyone and really takes a lot of trust and communication between sub/Mistress before this should become a part of their interests... and better left for those actually living together... in my thoughts.

Do not confuse Pro Domination with Financial Domination. Pro Domination is where the subs says, I want you to spank me like this, I want to worship you like that, and here is $100 a hour for doing so. (Just as an example) If you think about it... this is really the sub paying to top the Domme from the bottom since they are saying what will happen and how. To me.. it's just kinky fun for money and has little to do with a BDSM Lifestyle.

Financial Domination can be exciting for both sub and Domme, as long as there are clear boundaries and expectations, and limits with it... and as long as people don't assume that just because one is interested in it, doesn't make them unreal or fake.. just as one not being interested does not make them fake either... It's one of those fetish's, where it's just best to say if you aren't interested in it, it's a limit and move on to someone who you do share interestes with.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/28/2007 10:49:36 PM

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If I was going to do it, I would have to tell myself I was paying them and serving them, like a tax, instead of paying them to serve them, which just seems a little bit stupid.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/29/2007 2:03:26 PM

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Well, at least it's a different perspective on an age old concern.
First of all, I do not consider the "tribute" thing to be anything close to "financial domination. Anyone can ask for monetary tribute and it has nothing to do with domination, financial or otherwise, at all. Neither do I consider Pro Domination to be any form of financial domination, unless the pro session specifically focuses on that aspect. But how much can one financially dominate on an hourly basis? *Smile*
Domination, in any capacity, has to do with control. When I have a 24/7 live-in M/s relationship, financial domination is a part of that. I consider it to be an important part of the submission. Money is power and freedom. If the "slave" maintains control over any portion of his money, he has maintained a certain sense of freedom. Freedom to make personal financial decisions as to what to buy, when to buy it, how to spend, etc. If I were to take only a portion of money as "rent" or "his fair share" of expenses, then to Me, that takes away from the depth of the purpose of the relationship. All that affords Me is a "roomate with benefits". Therefore, all things are discussed and taken care of by contract. I keep assets aside in his name for security, and I add to those assets durining the time of the relationship. Often, a boy will leave in better financial shape than when he arrived. So financial domination, in the right hands, can be a very good thing.
Getting back to the control issue: ahem...There are some who desperately want to be dominated (i.e., controlled) but from a distance. One of the ways to do that is to maintain absolute control over the income and assets of that submissive/slave. Therefore, a Mistress can, if the boy is willing, dominate from afar via the wallet. He would have to think each day, "I cannot go to lunch since I have a strict budget and I am accountable to my Mistress for every dime I spend. This creates the mindset of serving, by disciplining oneself out of respect and obedience to his Domina. Cooking dinner instead of take-out and then doing those dishes. Washing his clothes instead of using a laundry service. Doing without the new car, the new big screen tv, the fancy weeknd away, that he would really like, but doesn't really need. This scenario does not work if the boy is only playing a game and does without when he feels like it, but knows there is no real consequence other than dismissal, if he disobeys. The Mistress may also determine how much of the income comes directly to her for her personal use every week/month, etc.
Then there are those who just like to flaunt their money, and write about being financially dominated, but will never follow through. And there are others who do want a Mistress, on their terms, of course, and they offer the money as a way to capture the Domina. They still want to own the assets, but play the game of saying that they are providing for her comfort when they are really in charge of the relationship, because they maintain the basic power. I refer to this as "The other side of money".
And finally, there are some, who just like to suddenly, and with no explanation or even a previous conversation, send money to an email address. I have had this happen. I did not solicit it, but there it is! I always accept those unexpected gifts, but, honestly, I never say thank you.
Just one Domina's take on that "sticky money thing".

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/29/2007 2:23:28 PM

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Gentlemen,

If you do not want to pay for something, simply don't. The only thing forcing you is your own desires. A man will pay for anything if it's a quick fix for something he would have to cultivate from a relationship.

Gentle sirs, YOU have created the very thing you despise. Think about it. You want "no muss,no fuss, do your thing and split".

Think of something that would get the intended result instead of money if it bothers you so much. I'm in no way defending the practice, just trying to get you men to realize you created the situation in the first place.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 6/29/2007 2:27:51 PM

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Money = power. Lack of money can inflict pain. There are humiliating and sadistic overtones which are - simply delicious. I don't do this with every slave - I am not SOLELY about financial domination, but it has heightened the humiliation and the intensity in some relationships I've had.

As per the other well put post, I'm not looking for moneyslaves or pro contacts on CM - I'm looking for the ideal fetishy girl to hang and play with. So I am not one of those dreaded money dommes - here anyway.

YES it's stupid to give large sums of money when told to. And yes, it can be the ultimate hard-on to do something stupid if you are normally a smart and prudent person who never does stupid things and has never been called stupid in his life. There is rich psychology to money - most $ slaves are well off and probably have at lot of issues kinks and beliefs about themselves based on their money and how they are perceived in public life. Challenging your self-knowledge is hot-making stuff for a lot of people. Risk is hot-making for a lot of people. The fantasy of having deleterious impact on someone over a symbolic signifier (in this case $) that doesn't actually foul up their lives but can allude to it? HOT.

People can mis-spend and get in over their heads on any fetish. I actually find that most guys with the financial fetish are more able to put on the brakes when need be than others.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/1/2007 2:43:56 PM

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quote:

Domination, in any capacity, has to do with control. When I have a 24/7 live-in M/s relationship, financial domination is a part of that. I consider it to be an important part of the submission. Money is power and freedom. If the "slave" maintains control over any portion of his money, he has maintained a certain sense of freedom. Freedom to make personal financial decisions as to what to buy, when to buy it, how to spend, etc. If I were to take only a portion of money as "rent" or "his fair share" of expenses, then to Me, that takes away from the depth of the purpose of the relationship. All that affords Me is a "roomate with benefits".

I believe the above quote from GoddessDustyGold hits the proverbial nail on the head and is the very essence of what a real Mistress/slave relationship must encompass once a commitment is made. Keep in mind though, I'm referring to a 24/7 TPE type of relationship and not a part-time, play partner type of thing, etc., etc., etc. After all, whoever controls the money in any relationship ultimately controls the relationship, even in a vanilla relationship, so it really can be no other way in the type of relationship mentioned here. Think about it.

Now bear in mind that I think that this is a very difficult concept for most potential male slaves to come to terms with, but I also believe that most who are truly searching for the "real deal" so to speak realize that ultimately it can be no other way if they ever hope to find the "real deal."

Just my thoughts...

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/1/2007 4:09:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Gentlemen,

If you do not want to pay for something, simply don't. The only thing forcing you is your own desires. A man will pay for anything if it's a quick fix for something he would have to cultivate from a relationship.

Gentle sirs, YOU have created the very thing you despise. Think about it. You want "no muss,no fuss, do your thing and split".

Think of something that would get the intended result instead of money if it bothers you so much. I'm in no way defending the practice, just trying to get you men to realize you created the situation in the first place.

Ma`am, with respect your post assumes all men created this. That is so not the case. Yes throughout history men have paid for the "quick fix" but equally women have been happy to take the money. IMHO both sexes created this. To be honest, if it suits both parties i dont see a problem.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/1/2007 4:13:13 PM

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dekley, i realise you stated the thoughts were just your own, but not everyone feels like you. i would be happy to either hand over control of my finances or look after them myself. i dont see it as an essential part of the relationship.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/2/2007 3:47:55 AM

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Financial domination = spoiled, young, vanilla girls looking for free money.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/2/2007 4:18:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Financial domination = spoiled, young, vanilla girls looking for free money.

The majority of Dommes asking for money I have seen and even been approached by have been 30+.

Also, I hardly think wanting to control what you are able to do and buy makes a Lady Vanilla.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/2/2007 6:24:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: MissOchistic

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Financial domination = spoiled, young, vanilla girls looking for free money.

The majority of Dommes asking for money I have seen and even been approached by have been 30+.

Also, I hardly think wanting to control what you are able to do and buy makes a Lady Vanilla.

Im not talking about pro dommes. There is a difference here. A pro-domme is offering a service. And the "tribute" acts as a business transaction. Most pro-dommes also generally enjoy what they are doing and are truely into the whole BDSM scene.

Most of the women into financial domination have that as the only thing in the BDSM world that they do or have any interest in. They are in it for the sole purpose of getting money and nothing else. They put together these websites where they throw up a few sexy pictures (of what we are supposed to assume is really them) and demand people send them money for nothing in return.
I remember seeing countless profiles of women right here on Collarme that specifically state not to contact them "unless you are rich." I mean they make it so obvious that money is all they care about. If they are simply looking to just control someone's finances, why does the amount of money someone makes make a difference? You would think that if someone only had $100 a week in spending money gives $80 to his mistress that this would be true financial domination. But most "money dommes" would not accept this. They want hundreds and sometimes even thousands of dollars. They want credit card accounts opened for the sole purpose of maxing them out.

It's a scam.

And I have also noticed most of these women are under age 25. Those that are into this and over age 30 are usually pro-dommes that include financial domination into their long list of kinks. In which case it may be more genuine.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/2/2007 6:53:25 AM

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Do not confuse Pro Domination with Financial Domination. Pro Domination is where the subs says, I want you to spank me like this, I want to worship you like that, and here is $100 a hour for doing so. (Just as an example) If you think about it... this is really the sub paying to top the Domme from the bottom since they are saying what will happen and how. To me.. it's just kinky fun for money and has little to do with a BDSM Lifestyle.

Really? Am so glad you rolled into the thread to enlighten us pro doms as to what it is we do, how we do it and the mechanics of it ... and before I get off my high and mighty horse ... let me add ... the BDSM lifestyle would NOT exist today without the input of some of the world's more glorious pro dom women and amazing submissives and slaves who have lavished love, money, worship and attention on these professional pro dom women who have contributed their souls, hearts, minds, integrity and experience to the masses through their professional exploits in private and public dungeons, playrooms, fetish clubs and writings ...

So, no offence meant .. but you are talking through a hole in ya a in this particular paragraph of your post.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/2/2007 9:22:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: MissOchistic

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Financial domination = spoiled, young, vanilla girls looking for free money.

The majority of Dommes asking for money I have seen and even been approached by have been 30+.

Also, I hardly think wanting to control what you are able to do and buy makes a Lady Vanilla.

Im not talking about pro dommes.

Neither am I.
I was talking about women who don't mention anything about being pro and simply demand "tributes" of certain amounts; once I saw "No less than $50" and another one demanding a pair of shoes before they would even speak xD

I can see how the amount would make a difference. Some Dommes think their sub/slave should work to support them, or be independantly wealthy and stay home with them to be at beck and call 24/7.

I'm just saying, even if all they do is ask for money to be sent and never be messaged again, it doesn't mean it's a scam. It just means there's a possibility it's a scam, or a kink that you don't understand, which seems quite likely. Sure, there are scammers out there who aren't even Dommes. But plenty of men really do get something out of it, and so do the women. It's a fair tradeoff.

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/8/2007 1:33:54 AM

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I personally believe the best tribute you can give to me is your devotion and time.

True but by the same token if the money feature is reversed and the sub has to work a few hours at a job for the woman/couple to give the money to them then the time is still there. There's also the bdsm suffering since almost nobody likes their job.
I once read a post from a guy in Europe who was a high power banker but his wife made him get a part time job washing dishes in a Chinese restaurant to buy sexy things for her and her lover. Cant' get anymore sadistic imho ;)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngel24
Do not confuse Pro Domination with Financial Domination. Pro Domination is where the subs says, I want you to spank me like this, I want to worship you like that, and here is $100 a hour for doing so. (Just as an example) If you think about it... this is really the sub paying to top the Domme from the bottom since they are saying what will happen and how. To me.. it's just kinky fun for money and has little to do with a BDSM Lifestyle.

Agreed. Although there are some Pro-Doms in the general area where I am they've never held any interest to me because there seems to be an intrinsic topping from the bottom aspect to this. FinDom doesn't really have that (however since it seems to mostly take place online and I just do r/t for anything bdsm related that's not really possible either).

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ORIGINAL: OrangeJulius
If I was going to do it, I would have to tell myself I was paying them and serving them, like a tax, instead of paying them to serve them, which just seems a little bit stupid.

Some women into FinDom do operate on the tax or tribute philosophy. "paying them to serve them" sound much more like a ProDom type dynamic.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
He would have to think each day, "I cannot go to lunch since I have a strict budget and I am accountable to my Mistress for every dime I spend. This creates the mindset of serving, by disciplining oneself out of respect and obedience to his Domina. Cooking dinner instead of take-out and then doing those dishes. Washing his clothes instead of using a laundry service. Doing without the new car, the new big screen tv, the fancy weekend away, that he would really like, but doesn't really need.

Agreed. That is *the best*. I did click with a local woman awhile go with this and one time I saw myself at the auto checkout at the supermarket looking at my purchases and thought to myself "Do I really need these fancy items. Will the basic things here get me through the week and still be healthy without the expensive soymeat (I'm vegan) or whatever". I put the expensive items aside and there was a huge rush through my body and actually arousal.

Sadly it didn't really work out since she seemed to passive about it. I always had to bring it up (although she said she really liked the idea which made it seem odd she never followed through). Imho, once both parties discover they're into it, unless she's taking the lead it just falls more into a sugar daddy slave type thing (which doesn't hold any appeal to me since it's got that top from the bottom dynamic that I can't get into).

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong
A man will pay for anything if it's a quick fix for something he would have to cultivate from a relationship.

A "quick fix" is a good way to phrase it. Some guys claim to be addicted to it. I know it can be intoxicating - but what fetish isn't?

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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish
It IS a kink of mine; fun, and exciting.

In the right dynamic I would have to agree

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RE: Financial Domination - Definitions please - 7/8/2007 1:52:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Grlwithboy

Money = power. Lack of money can inflict pain. There are humiliating and sadistic overtones which are - simply delicious. I don't do this with every slave - I am not SOLELY about financial domination, but it has heightened the humiliation and the intensity in some relationships I've had.

Agreed. It can make the sub feel completely servile. A doormat for Her to wipe her feet on to use for her gain.

quote:

YES it's stupid to give large sums of money when told to. And yes, it can be the ultimate hard-on to do something stupid if you are normally a smart and prudent person who never does stupid things and has never been called stupid in his life.

Agreed as well however I'd extend it further than that. Aristotle contended that there were some who were natural slaves and natural Masters. Almost like being genetically/menially inferior to others and being wrapped around a woman's finger to be exploited like this has made me feel remarkably stupid but has also given me a deep feeling of sheer happiness beyond arousal, beyond fetish, beyond anything in the right dynamic with the right woman.

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There is rich psychology to money - most $ slaves are well off and probably have at lot of issues kinks and beliefs about themselves based on their money and how they are perceived in public life.

It can also work the other way. I'm certainly not Mr. Money Bags and to have to scrape together money for a Superior meant that I had to cut corners on my few luxuries so She could have them instead.

A few years ago I was in dire financial straights (secondary to FinDom btw lol). Like food bank, living in a place with internment heat in the winter and a "part time" fridge situation.

Although I've never gone to *that* extreme in FinDom the idea of having to budget every penny (like I did before) to afford food for the week while She's eating Caviar is intoxicating. Although the best times is when I've had to budget myself to because she's told me she wants me to buy her shoes

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People can mis-spend and get in over their heads on any fetish. I actually find that most guys with the financial fetish are more able to put on the brakes when need be than others.

I've found that to be true as well when talking with FinSubs which is why that whole "Blackmail" part of the scene has always been a hard limit beyond reproach. The whole concept, for me, is for her to live like a Queen with me as a pauper (to use a broad metaphor). To put myself in a situation which would be "over my head" wouldn't make sense for me nor her

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