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Level -> 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 3:17:17 AM)

NEW DELHI - Police have questioned the parents — both doctors — of a 15-year-old boy who allegedly carried out a Caesarean section birth under their watch in southern India, a government official said Monday.

An Indian Medical Association chapter in the southern state of Tamil Nadu said last week that Dr. K. Murugesan showed them a video recording of his son, Dhileepan Raj, performing a Caesarean section in an apparent bid to gain a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records as the youngest surgeon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19415576




Vendaval -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 3:32:13 AM)

I hope this incident did not actually take place.  And if it did,
the parents should be prosecuted and stripped of their medical licences.




litleone8620 -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 4:31:54 AM)

It did take place.

There was an article about it in our local paper.  I was surprised that the woman that the C-section was performed on agreed to it. Though I suppose she wasn't exactly in the best of decision making mentalities.




lighthearted -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 8:54:42 AM)

I was shocked that someone agreed to it, tho the smackdown came when Guinness refused to consider it for the book, saying they didn't want to promote that kind of behaviour.

it was very irresponsible of the father, I agree, but then again, I'm not famliar with Indian culture, I don't know if it caused as much outrage there as it did here.




HeavansKeeper -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 9:15:01 AM)

Although I would disagree with this as a general practice, there are places in the world where a doctor's 15 year old son is better than nothing.  This doesn't fall under that circumstance, though...

Besides, look at that tie.  The boy is clearly a stand-up gent.




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 10:42:28 AM)

Utterly frightening.




OrangeJulius -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 12:33:03 PM)

And now he's running from the police. I wonder how far he's going to get?




Real0ne -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 12:36:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I hope this incident did not actually take place.  And if it did, the parents should be prosecuted and stripped of their medical licences.


Not sure if i agree.

i have been driving since i was 5, same age using a 22 caliber rifle for plinking, sewed up my own finger around 7-8ish  and other stuff :)




Casie -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 12:40:36 PM)

 While I do believe his parents acted reclessly, If the women entered into the agreement without coercion and was fully informed of the risk I have no problem. 




nyrisa -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 12:50:14 PM)

It happens more than you know, even in the US. Some years ago, while taking a surgical nurse's certification course, the instructor told of a surgeon allowing his 14 year old son to make a few of the stitches during the closing of the incision. There has been more than one case of doctor's kids allowed to watch births as "sex ed". It was all seen as sort of "taking your child to work" by the doctors.

Now that there is so much more supervision by administration, and liability consciousness, I'd be surprised to find it happening in a large hospital. But tiny hospitals with the one or two surgeons available having more power, it probably still happens. Doctors have a lot more leeway in small and remote communities.




OrangeJulius -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 1:38:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I hope this incident did not actually take place.  And if it did, the parents should be prosecuted and stripped of their medical licences.


Not sure if i agree.

i have been driving since i was 5, same age using a 22 caliber rifle for plinking, sewed up my own finger around 7-8ish  and other stuff :)



But that was all pertaining to you. If you decided to amputate your legs for fun and screwed up and died, it would be your fault, and your problem. If this kid screwed up and killed the baby, others would be negitavely impacted.




popeye1250 -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 2:32:02 PM)

Beats the hell out of "Midnight Basketball."




instynctive -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 3:55:37 PM)

I used to run EMS at the "basic" level, but on several different occasions the Paramedic I was riding with had me performing paramedic-level treatments.  Granted I did not make any decisions, but was their second set of hands on a bad trauma or cardiac patient.  Why?  Because I'm pretty cool under pressure, not an idiot and knew where everything was on the back of the bus. :-)  And the Medic trusted that I would do what they wanted me to do when they wanted me to do it, no questions asked... until after the call.

I was fortunate.. 10 years and I batted 1.000... Every moving patient I picked up was still moving (more or less) when they got signed over to the ER staff.




Sinergy -> RE: 15 year old performs c-section (6/26/2007 4:20:32 PM)

 
There are places in the world, and situations, where access to qualified medical care is limited or non-existent.

These are two trained surgeons overseeing their child performing a surgery.  While it might have been spun as an attempt to get into the Guinness Book Of World Records, it sounds like they are fully qualified at overseeing a surgery.

Read or see the movie "The Cider House Rules," which gives an example where this exact situation (a teenager learning medicine) was performed.  As the movie points out, sometimes there are situations where doing the right thing trumps one's own personal opinions and legal requirements.

Sinergy




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