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rhythmboi -> 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/27/2007 3:45:41 PM)

Because i'm apparently in a posty kind of mood, and another thread just reminded me of it, i've got a question for y'all.

I used to work at a small company that made hammocks and other rope products, including a line of 'green' products made of recycled polypropeline rope and sustainably harvested, local wood. there was always joking talk on the shop floor about how we should expand into the bondage market or make suspension devices or leather hammocks or whatnot. I've since left them, but in the meanwhile they lost a major contract (like everything else, hammocks are getting made super cheaply in china) and the business is hurting. So, now seems like as good a time to take those ideas seriously as any (and maybe spur some mildly interesting posting...)

Do you think there's a market for environmentally friendly rope stuff? The recycled polypro rope is surprisingly soft and much less stretchy than the virgin polypro, so maybe that alone would be a decent product to offer.
If you had a shop full of rope craftspeople at your service, is there anything you can envision wanting made that isn't currently available?
If there are serious ideas, i'll pitch 'em to my friends back in hammock-land.




onmykneesforhim -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/27/2007 3:50:37 PM)

HI,
The list is as long as anything, Almost, that is in leather. A corset comes in ropes and a spiderweb is a much sought after equipement. They have actaul rope stores that come to leather flee markets on the east coast.






PONYSEEKER -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/27/2007 3:53:04 PM)

LOL what timing.  The green sex toys and what not is just starting to take off in the way that people are just now starting to become concerned about what there dildos are made of .... although I cant think of anything when it comes to ropes other than perhaps pre-made harness and what not that would be compleatly made of rope, adjustable and what not.  With me I know that I like to keep with ropes because im into bondage and suspention then rope just has a really great feel to it and a great look but when you start adding leather harnesses it sort of spoils it.  So how to suspend a sub in a hurry or have some kind of rope bondage where you dont have to make a million knotts when you dont have the time would be nice.




Rastimmipitwax -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 2:35:18 AM)

Damn good idea, but I do have to mention that a lot of people prefer coarser rope, which is why hemp is so popular.





instynctive -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 3:32:50 AM)

I am using old, recycled barn planking for BDSM furniture.. does that count? :-)




SimplyMichael -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 6:26:27 AM)

BDSM people are notoriously cheap and the things they pay for have little to do with "green" other than cash.

People are concerned with what their dildos are made with because some plastic is more toxic than others and some is easier to take care of than others, it has little to do with green.




earthycouple -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 7:16:40 AM)

There already are companies who make "vegan" bdsm equipment.  I had a dominant who was a vegan and so I was keenly aware of those things.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 7:29:26 AM)

I had someone use their polypro rope on me this weekend- it rocks!!!  I think it is totally marketable.




RCdc -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 7:33:00 AM)

There would definately be a market.  I would certainly be more interested in 'green' products than the norm.  You would need to be able to market via the net as well.(suggestion)
Peace
the.dark.




amiciaN -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 8:20:07 AM)

You mentioned that your shop also works with wood and not just rope.  Considering the 'closet bdsm' thread, it seems there would be a market for a bondage frame/cross type piece of equipment that could be easily assembled, transported or dismantled for storage.  I can't provide anything resembling plans and stablility would definitely be a factor, but it seems like a marketable concept, especially if one could keep the price reasonable.  Not all of us have hundreds of dollars to invest in toys. 

(I was going to put a crying smiley here, but collarme won't let me.  Make that 2 crying smileys then.)




crouchingtigress -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 10:23:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amiciaN
(I was going to put a crying smiley here, but collarme won't let me.  Make that 2 crying smileys then.)


its drag and drop for the uptop smilies.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 10:30:44 AM)

I remember the old days when you had to make your own smilies...

:*)




masterdstar -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 2:12:49 PM)

Oh this is just wonderful! Thanks for the laughs!

Enjoy your wonder-filled day




rhythmboi -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/28/2007 7:29:33 PM)

thanks for the suggestions.

while they do some woodwork, it's mostly frames for the rope chairs and stretcher bars (yes, that is the technical term) for the hammocks, nothing too involved. i'm wondering how complex it would be to make a flexible wood-framed spiderweb type thing where the wooden frame could come apart (but still stay attached to the ropes) and the whole thing fold up. hmm...

then there's just the rope.




amiciaN -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/29/2007 8:09:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rhythmboi

thanks for the suggestions.

while they do some woodwork, it's mostly frames for the rope chairs and stretcher bars (yes, that is the technical term) for the hammocks, nothing too involved. i'm wondering how complex it would be to make a flexible wood-framed spiderweb type thing where the wooden frame could come apart (but still stay attached to the ropes) and the whole thing fold up. hmm...

then there's just the rope.


That is exactly the sort of thing I am picturing!  [:D]  Take the basic hammock design, add sides, and a way to make it stand up/be anchorable.  Perhaps something that could be placed against a wall, with the rope web angled much like a St. Andrew's cross?    Something like:
  web frame--->   /_|   <---bracing frame
(please excuse the rudimentary attempt at creating a picture)

Another avenue that might be worth exploring is rope beds for Scadians.  Pennsic War is a huge event, with roughly 13,000 participants and there are several others that also have thousands in attendance.  I hope these ideas can help keep your shop working.  A steady income is a good thing, no matter what your orientation or lifestyle choices are.  [:D]

side note:  The smiley problem was a temporary glitch.  Old pc + not the latest browswer = strange things happen sometimes.  I'm planning on getting a new computer soon, so for now I just cope or reboot as necessary.  ;-)  (for LA)




LadyHugs -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/29/2007 1:30:22 PM)

Dear rhythmboi, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Perhaps consideration of these ideas:

Bondage rack - wood frame and strung in the bed area with your rope.  Make the stringing more space occupying though where the knots well placed and adjustable in certain genital areas.  Perhaps an alternative, you can place an 'X' frame in the middle of it.

You can perhaps add to it as an enclosed 'rope cage' using a bunk bed frame.  Just add mattresses and you have a bed for those little 'GI Joe' sorts for kids, adults can use for BDSM.

Rope canopy--tightly squared rope that can be anchored to a wall ring and fan out to the foot of the bed.  It could perhaps be used on a four poster bed as well. Weaving rope can produce a more masculine canopy over four poster beds for those girls who aren't all that frilly, then fringe the ends.  It may be used to hang netting like anti mosquito netting (great this time of year) over people's beds.

Rope enclosure -- Hang from trees and create a bigger area than hammocks that can connect to each other and form a small 'tent' like idea or "Tee-Pee" umbrella like frame made of rope; as to permit bed sheets, nets to drape over the rope frame as to keep picnic tables free of bugs and can shade with sheets or blankets.  Add more plastic and it can be a huge umbrella for those pop up showers.  Shower curtains can work on the sides as well as to create it into a instant 'port-a-potty'  Put it all into a box with a hole as to create a means to put a trash bag into the box and take the human waste to the trash cans in most parks--and you have a tidy closure.  I am sure elderly individuals can use this instant pop up privy.

Rope storage -- Make a rope hanger, which is much like what ships used as cargo nets as well as ship's ladders but, make it finer and the gaps not so wide.  Then hang with woven baskets to use as holders for magazines, items, etc.  One can use a belt and tie hanger--the flat type with hooks as a flogger holder (sort of like a rake that is metal and has openings like two fingers holding the end of the flogger).  It can be converted into a bondage area by sliding two pvc pipes in the weave of the rope ladder and double end snaps to hold it into the 'ladder''s weave.  Feed chain through and clip and you have bondage site.

Rope bondage dress-harness -- Self explaining.

Rope bra - Make a pocket much like a bra's cup but, include a ring at the tip where nipples usually located. For those who do not have piercings, this has an ability to have connecting points.  Can also add rings all over the strap and supporting areas as to make it interesting bondage or add to the rope dress's 'support'--let the creative mind work from there.

Rope nut bra -- Make a phallus and testical sack like bra-- put several rings into the weave of rope finally made; as to fasten round like a 'cock ring' or parachute but, having the little square weaving this allows clips to add weights all over in many different places and rings can be used for affixing weights or adding the 'spider web' rope bondage in fine rope as to encase the thighs or at the knees to be like 'rope thigh leggings to keep them closed for bondage and or torture.

Rope cane/paddle - patterned a bit from the Grass Cane, which is a braid of tall grass that the Native American Indians use for smudging--in this case, use a flexible shaft, like from an old crop or whip and braid rope and make into a paddle or cane.

Rope cuffs and connecting shackles -- Braid ropes into cuffs, using "D" rings or "O" rings to lock them into place.  Or, you can have the ability to feed through the braid as to lock with a regular padlock or snaps.  As shackles are usually made of chain, they do scratch the floors.  Rope length can be made with rings on the end to lock a certain length of rope to the rope cuffs.  If you want to be even more clever -- braid a series of rings in the length of it--as to shorten or lengthen the shackle.  This can be done also for cuffs and placing the wrists wider or close as well.  It can also act as a dog leash for short leash to longer leashes.

Just a few thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




rhythmboi -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/29/2007 3:03:36 PM)

wow, that's quite an impressive list of suggestions, Lady Hugs. thank you kindly. i'll send it along to the research/development folks.




LadyHugs -> RE: 'green' bdsm equipment? (6/29/2007 3:10:47 PM)

Dear rhythmboi, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
You know, you could have those at the hammock company advertise making these hammock's personal--with dying their name into the hammock with the rope or, making wood letters as to make it like a monogram.
 
Can make sections of wood connected by rope into a hammock, for those who need some back support.  Can make a pocket for inserts of wood or cushions to make it hard or soft.
 
Have the folks considered--remote control adjustment of hammocks?  Lower the thing so you can sit into it and let it rise up to level--helps short folks and elderly get in and out of a hammock a bit easier.  Might need several pulleys as to make it into a "L" shape to sit in as a chair of rope/couch of rope and then other controls to perhaps ease the sides up.  Of course you can have it clam in those occupying it for 'rope bondage'...
 
Just some more thoughts to consider,
Lady Hugs




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