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RiotGirl -> i see (6/11/2005 7:16:57 PM)
i'm shutting this down as its getting way too out of control.. It WAS supposed to be about a silly time and its just been blown all out of porportion, getting way too personal, so i'm shutting it down on my end.

FangsNfeet -> RE: i see (6/11/2005 7:22:18 PM)
Isn't it great when Doms keep there subs out of trouble? Pet and I haven't seen each other drunk yet but I think all you will know it when we do.

Sweeticing -> RE: i see (6/11/2005 8:25:54 PM)
LOL I like that story,

Tempestspet -> RE: i see (6/11/2005 9:27:57 PM)
I make my living working in bars, and night clubs... and all I can say is wow smiles Tempest's pet jennifer

FelinePersuasion -> RE: i see (6/12/2005 10:56:22 PM)
Getting drunk is not an objective to be proud of. Neither is behavior while drunk anything to be proud of. I for one am not impressed with drunks.

Tempestspet -> RE: i see (6/13/2005 11:01:03 AM)
I'm not sure...don't think this is really the case..but perhaps I should've said sarcastic grin... I feel I should put my 2 cents (more..) in on this, as I don't want to be seen as one who condones this kind of crap. I've had people thrown out of bars for not much mpre than that. It tends to cause problems when you have little girls running around behvaing that way, then getting themsleves into some much wanted "trouble" and then their boyfriend/ dom/ top/ master / husband has to come to their rescue. Which was the whole point of their behavior in the first place. The reasons I know this to be true, is I watch it, and have to help control it at work, for the past 5 yrs now. I had wanted to not come off as a bitch about it.... but well... it was all set up this way from the OP. Thank you, Tempest's pet jennifer

cellogrrlMK -> RE: i see (6/13/2005 11:12:46 AM)
You remember all this stuff when you drink that much? Do you ever get so drunk you DON'T remember stuff? <wanders off, wondering if you ever regret your actions when you're that stinking drunk>

Tempestspet -> RE: i see (6/13/2005 2:37:14 PM)
Oh, and by the way... When your purpose is to drink til your vision is sideways, and drink til your drunk... This is called an alcoholic. The fact that you've been one since 15, is definately not impressive. Nor am I impressed by your Master (using this term loosely) because he enables it... aparently readily. Tempest's pet jennifer

cellogrrlMK -> RE: i see (6/13/2005 4:20:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tempestspet Oh, and by the way... When your purpose is to drink til your vision is sideways, and drink til your drunk... This is called an alcoholic. Jennifer, I'm glad you said it, because I was thinking it but didn't want to say it! Since having a very disappointing experience with an alcoholic who was too good to be true (he WAS too good to be true, he was an alcoholic who fell off the wagon in a real bad way) I have no tolerance for alcoholics who are not in a committed, work the steps recovery. cello

Tempestspet -> RE: i see (6/13/2005 4:28:41 PM)
These kind of people (drunk and/or high) are the worst ones to have around. This is where some of a bad name comes from for play and that... the drunks that end up playing their thresh hold gone... since they can't see straight, their body is partly numb too. Thus sustaining damage they wouldn't have if they hadn't gotten so screwed up. Yeah... I know... no one who's an acoholic plays when they are drunk.... but they do... and then get hurt... than it's oh, those bad kinky people.... look people just getting brutalized...tisk tisk. whew....rant complete...sorry about that. But, it's all still true. These (alcoholics..) people are not great to have in the lifestyle... it's not safe. Not only does it not fall under the SSC, but I don't believe it even falls under RAC..(not sure on the abreviation there... but those familiar with it, will know what I am referring to) Now, I drink on occasion, no not to the point of being blindingly drunk.. and this is not why I drink... This said to establish I'm not against drinking, or not a prude (that sounds funny even saying in this forum...) And yes I've even been drunk. But the difference is that it's not a past time, hobby, or a need for me. Tempest's pet jennifer edited to fix, and add a couple things...smiles

RiotGirl -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 7:46:46 PM)
yeah whatever. TMI

RiotGirl -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 8:05:10 PM)
AND again, TMI and myob. think what yall want. Really, why should i care less? Why should i feel the need to explain myself? Think how you wish as its not going to affect my life one bit

RiotGirl -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 8:34:06 PM)
Definetly TMI

Lordandmaster -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 9:32:23 PM)
I see I see this world going in circles around all around me.

cellogrrlMK -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 10:30:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster I see I see this world going in circles around all around me. <Helpfully offers LAM a bucket>

mnottertail -> RE: i see (6/14/2005 10:49:39 PM)
You and I fall on the same side.........Perhaps you have not explained yourself well enough.......many on this site will tell you the risk of any fucking thing you can think of... for instance all you NON SAFE, SANE AND CONSENTUAL ASSHOLES WHO DONT GIVE A FUCK (and never pee in public) will eat with a fork, YOU DUMBASSES RUN A SIGNIFICANT RISK OF STABBING YOURSELF IN THE TONSILS AND BLEEDING TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't need to see that shit and therefore it is not consentual kink.......(cause you said) .....................dearest RiotGirl, chill......and everyone else......what is to fix here? But, love if I was your dom (AND I AINT) I would think this is something you could at least have a moment of introspection on......................... Ron

fillepink -> RE: i see (6/15/2005 6:47:20 AM)
riot girl, i think there were two reasons P/pl may have reacted badly to your thread; first; it wasn't entirely clear you had stopped drinking; and second, you found humor in the things you did while drunk. the story you told about trying to pick up a girl in a bar for a 3way was pretty demeaning to all involved..but most especially you, who were acting while drunk. none of the stories you told about being drunk were funny to me..vomiting on your mom...they mad me sad. i am very happy for you that you have overcome so much adversity in your young life, but take issue with your denigration of P/pl in AA and NA; it is so hard to overcome adiction and many P/pl are helped by these organizations..so why the hostility towads them and their members? i don't think A/anyone who wrote was actually hostile to you..i think P/pl were concerned until you clarified that you are alcohol and drug-free and only play when you are sober. most P/pl i think would agree that is necessary for a submissive's safety -- for your safety. perhaps P/pl were a bit harsh in their language, but i think they wrote because they care for you -- and because they did not want you to model drunken play for any young submissive on the site. a misunderstanding, in other words. i wish you well in all ways, riot girl, including continued sobriety. fillepink [image]local://upfiles/72910/96D2209DEDAB460E826B96ABD875A383.jpg[/image]

RiotGirl -> RE: i see (6/15/2005 10:32:39 AM)
Enough is enough. Take a funny yet innocent story the wrong way, let me start hopping up and down all aggravated. And i will stop and look at the silliness of all this. My reaction to you're out of context reaction is silly. Who cares?? People drink and have "stories" i'm not gonna explain myself anymore. <grins> Like i tell alot of people. Whats it matter, you're just type on a screen coming from some where in the world

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: i see (6/15/2005 10:46:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RiotGirl So if i started doing it on my own at 15, whats it say about these people who cant do it on their own as adults? Started doing what exactly? Sure you've managed to physically survive to this age in your life, but how sane and whole of a person are you? How much abuse and destruction did others put you through? Did you put yourself through? You're only JUST NOW even beginning to have something of a stable life, still at the very babysteps of having an actual fulfilling healthy life. I don't think you've got much to stand on right now talking about "doing it on their own."

Sirhorseman -> RE: i see (6/15/2005 10:48:18 AM)
Hmmmm I really don't mind that sort of thing in jest but apparently your Master sees there is a problem with your drinking. I know for a fact that if My girl got to the point to where there was bound to be an altercation, there would be repercussions from it. Especially if that type of incident gets her thrown out of the bar. There would be a discussion the next day about it & possibly a correction afterwards. One thing I wouldn't tolerate is being humiliated in that sense.

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