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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 6:37:12 PM   
LadyPaige


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Status: offline 		I got an e-mail from someone from another state asking me to take control of his finances.  He didn't suggest that we get to know each other and perhaps one of us relocate, just that he wanted me to control his money.  I wasn't sure if he was serious or if HE was scamming me hoping to tempt me into an on-line relationship.  Look on the phone sex lines and you will see financial domination; women charging $50 a minute to talk to them.  This is simply some men's kink, and unless there is solicitation and deception, it doesn't indicate anyone taking advantage of anyone else.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 7:01:02 PM   
tehf00f


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Status: offline 		The use of "good" and "right" in reference to relationships worries me from the outset, but I'm new here so playing language lawyer probably won't earn me any friends. I'm not personally interested in financial domination, but it bothers me on some level to see it referred to as a scam. If an individual, as an informed adult, chooses to send money to a random stranger that reimburses them with no more than a dozen dirty e-mails with a picture or two, how is this a scam? Sounds like an expensive porn site to me. Think about it: money in exchange for a sexual illusion. It seems silly to me personally, yes, but I don't see anything *wrong* with it so long as the individual providing said money is recieving satisfaction/pleasure from the interaction.

In relationships where the individuals involved are living together, I'm not even sure I'd categorize it as all that kinky on it's own. Afterall, how unusual is it for one half of the relationship to control the household finances? If everyone involved is happy, satisfied, fed, and loved, where oh where is the problem? My sister works while her husband stays home, writes, and tends the grublings. He manages the finances, pays the bills, and decides what beyond bills is purchased, everything from eating out to redoing the drapes, and I don't even consider the relationship BDSM in the least. There is a power exchange, but only on the level of who has *which* responsibilities. Yes, there's the opportunity for manipulation/corruption, but trust and vulnerability are a part of every relationship, BDSM or not.

...The short of it: so long as all parties involved are happy and satisfied with their side of the interaction, regardless of whether it's a genuine relationship or an expensive illusion of one, it's all kosher. Jimmy Bo Bob wants to send half his paycheck to Dommypoo7384 because it turns him on? More power to him, he's lucky getting off is that easy.

  ~F~

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:10:45 PM   
Dreammster


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Status: offline 		check with him and see how much money he wanted you to manage.

If it is over about 5 million,  let me know,  I'll help you manage the funds and we'll manage to enjoy some other enterprises as well.

Could be a fine way to finance erotic entanglement.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:32:08 PM   
Tristan


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Status: offline 		I have never seen a post by a male submissive who claimed he was into financial domination.  My best guess on this one is that it is mainly a female fetish and the males are just paying for a service.  I would love to hear from male submissives into financial domination.  I know there has to be at least one out there somewhere.

Tristan

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 12:43:00 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		It also seems like some of the women doing this are ruining bdsm.  Like lets say what if some male sub sees a girl online like on livejournal and shes asking for money.  They never meet but he starts giving her his money.  One day he wakes up and does not want to do this anymore but finds out all of his money is gone.  Can he sue her or is it all his fault?

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 1:02:55 AM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		lol... Hey Tristan... want me to forward the next one I get to you? hehe  Sorry I couldn't help myself!  They are out there, don't know about posting... but I have had a few at this site and others.  I don't understand it... but I don't understand many things.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 2:25:54 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		I just feel the best form of slavery is a a relationship.  There are many other types but what I really want is a relationship where we can talk openly even though in the end I decide what happens.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:30:51 AM   
becca333


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* People are weird.

* Some people are dangerous as well.

* Don't trust blindly.

* Anything is dangerous if done without enough care.

That covers everything from BDSM to fingerpainting.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:32:33 AM   
Mastermozilla


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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:34:30 AM   
becca333


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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:35:17 AM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		lol becca

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:36:56 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		Or dont stick your hand on the oven.  I do that to often.  I enjoy pain brought on by myself not by others.  But the oven is one hard cookie to get away from.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 3:38:04 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Are you kidding me?  Why would anyone give money to someone they haven't met?  Seriously, one has to take SOME responsibility for one's actions, don't you think?

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:02:39 AM   
wandersalone


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Status: offline 		Could it be that you are asking an unanswerable question … it sounds like giving money to someone you have never met is something you would not do and do not understand … that is your right, it is ok just as it is ok for someone else to disagree with you.  I have a feeling that the word ‘relationship’ can be defined in many different and no less authentic ways by people, not only by interacting in real life. 

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:33:39 AM   
CrashTestDommie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

It also seems like some of the women doing this are ruining bdsm.  Like lets say what if some male sub sees a girl online like on livejournal and shes asking for money.  They never meet but he starts giving her his money.  One day he wakes up and does not want to do this anymore but finds out all of his money is gone.  Can he sue her or is it all his fault?


Give your "supreme" gender a little credit.  I've been in this for years... guess what, it doesn't happen.  But I'll make you my toilet slave for free, hun.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:36:37 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		No thank you and yes it does happen same with the other sex waking up from a male dominanted relationship.  You cant say it doesnt happen when you have not talked to even single person out there.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:43:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla
It also seems like some of the women doing this are ruining bdsm.  Like lets say what if some male sub sees a girl online like on livejournal and shes asking for money.  They never meet but he starts giving her his money.  One day he wakes up and does not want to do this anymore but finds out all of his money is gone.  Can he sue her or is it all his fault?

*takes a deep breath and repeats "be gentle, be gentle" :) *

Hello Mastermozilla,
First of all, these women (or any other group within the "lifestyle") cannot "ruin BDSM."  If they are unscrupulous, they can be involved in ruining the experiences of anyone who chooses to get involved with them, but they are one tiny segment of the population of folks involved in BDSM.

Secondly, as "CrashTestDommie" alluded to:  You have indicated in many of your posts that you are a male supremacist.  I don't know exactly what all that entails but, as I've told you in response to your PM, I personally find the idea of saying any one gender/race/whatever is entirely superior to any other just ludicrous.  If males are superior, as you allege, why would a male give a (female) stranger all his money?  Wouldn't he be superior in intelligence to her and know better?  And, btw, it would be his own fault for freely handing out his cash to someone.  Just some thoughts.........luci

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:53:37 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		If you want to know pretty much the extreme form which a little of I share listen to Tom Leykis he is not involved in bdsm but I feel and probably many others feel he is a Male Supremacist.  And Male Supremacy is kind of like Female Supremacy just feeling that the other sex is dominant.  And I dont really know how to talk about how I feel men or women go wrong when they send money to people they dont know like with the credit card scams.  Send money to us and because you saved us we will give you 100,000 dollars.  Unlike alot of people in here I feel money should be sent unless you are sending it to a charity when you meet the person not before.  Charities are the exception for me unless red cross hires people who steal money from Katrina victims again.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 4:54:44 AM   
Mastermozilla


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Status: offline 		And im saying ruining in the eyes of the public even though they really dont see bdsm as a real lifestyle but more as a crime.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/30/2007 5:25:03 AM   
susie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

I just feel the best form of slavery is a a relationship.  There are many other types but what I really want is a relationship where we can talk openly even though in the end I decide what happens.


I guess this is where all this is coming from. You want a relationship. You do not understand how others would want something you do not want. Well guess what, people do. Just becuase you want a relationship and to live things your way do not assume that everyone else wants it the same way. There are hundreds of shades of bdsm and hundreds of different relationships which all work for the people involved. None of them are right or wrong to those not in the relationship. Live your life the way you want and stop worrying about everyone else. That is the only way to be happy in this life.

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