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Vendaval -> How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 9:16:59 AM)

How do you define success and happiness?
Are the two related and interdependent?
Or are they two different states of mind.

Is one more important than the other to you?
And do you strive to be successful and/or happy?




cjenny -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 9:57:12 AM)

They are very independent for me. At this point in my life I strive for happiness over success although I think one can lead to the other.

I know when I've succeded (sp??) by how I feel inside.




KatyLied -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 9:59:44 AM)

I want both, success especially on the job front.
I want to be content in my life and that is what I strive for.  I already feel happy for the most part.  I have a lot of good things in my life, but my difficulty is learning to be content with the things that I can't change or force and to learn more to allow things to be what they will or won't be.  Make sense?




bliss1 -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 10:27:51 AM)

Success without happiness is hollow.

I want to be happy at what I am successful at.
Lived for many years with a father who was successful by  many standards - but he is/was the most unhappy man i've ever know.
I don't want to be like him.




mnottertail -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 10:32:39 AM)

the number of blowjobs received in a 24 hour period.




popeye1250 -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 10:54:56 AM)

If you're 80 or over a new BUICK in the garage.
Oh, and a daily BM and good health.




sub4hire -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 11:37:17 AM)

Being loved and having good friends in my life are happiness.  Success comes in many forms.

I've achieved my goals in life.  So, I guess I've been successful.




Sinergy -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 11:52:26 AM)

 

Happiness, to me, is intrinsic.  It is something that one finds within oneself and uses it as the palette to paint the colors into one's life. 

Success is a day at a time thing to me.  It is waking up in the morning knowing that I have a path to walk, knowing how to walk that path, and being able to change one's path on route as the system space changes.

I want to have peace and serenity in my life.  I do not really care about things.  I want to have the means to improve my lot if I wake up one morning and decide my lot needs improving.  It is people I love, whether I am being mean to them and getting kicked in the head, or dancing with them, or talking to them at work.

Sinergy




Vendaval -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 2:10:08 PM)

Fast reply -
 
Candy Girl, very sweet of you.
Katy, yes you make perfect sense.
bliss, you have learned by the mistakes of others, not everyone can do that!
sub4hire, you sound content with your life.
Sinergy, an insightful post as always.
Popeye, you always tell it simple and direct.  Can we maybe change the Buick to a Cadillac?
Ron, I saw your icon and knew that blow jobs would be included in your definiation of happiness.




uwinceismile -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 4:44:26 PM)

success= raising my children to be productive members of society
happiness= knowing my children love me
everything else is incidental




Pandamonum -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 7:53:17 PM)

Success is room to be happy.  There is this really screwed up thang that lots of people have proved against called Maslov's hierarchy of needs. If you are familiar with it, yes, I know its childish, but I still believe. Call me idealistic, whatever.  Room to breathe, to think, to be, they are one and the same for me. You can't do it living hand to mouth. Its hand in hand.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/29/2007 11:38:49 PM)

How do you define success The achievement of goals I've set for myself.
 
and happiness? Is something that is found within. It's a concious choice made every day.

Are the two related and interdependent? Interdependent. I've known very successful people that were miserable and very happy people that most wouldn't consider successful.

Or are they two different states of mind.
I think so

Is one more important than the other to you? I think that being happy, and finding that within myself is far more important.

And do you strive to be successful and/or happy? I strive to be both. Obviously no one attempts things with the intent of failure but there are always times we have to pick ourselves up and try again at something. Lessons that were the hardest to learn are the lessons we remember the longest.




trixxitrash -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/30/2007 2:52:52 AM)

"pussy pussy pussy marijuana" brazilian girls.
there ya go: success, and happiness.

just kiddin, though it is a kick-ass song.

on the serious tip, they're the same thing. success = getting what you want. happiness = getting what you want. and so the answer is subjective: it all depends on what you want.




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/30/2007 4:18:43 AM)

 
How do you define success and happiness? success is completing a task or project correctly for me, and i mostly relate it to work.  not all successes make me happy-some just have to be done cuz the federal govt or my boss said so.  happiness is what i feel that makes me smile while i do the dishes or lie in the sun-or while completing the successful tasks....happiness is all in my head-while success has something to show for it that is tangible(i think tangible is the correct word-it can be seen)

Are the two related and interdependent?not at all for me

Or are they two different states of mind.success is not in the mind for me

Is one more important than the other to you?without happiness, i wouldnt enjoy success at all i dont think

And do you strive to be successful and/or happy?happy happy happy definately





Termyn8or -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/30/2007 8:29:34 AM)

Success is not making alot of money,success is making enough money in less time. If you can work 20-25 hours a week and make a good living, that is some measure of success.

Happiness comes from what you do in the spare time. The two are completely independent. Important matters are usually decided by one, the one who is affected by the outcome. Only stupid shit is worth arguing over. You hear couples argue over all kinds of things, what movies to rent, what new car to buy all that shit, but did you ever hear them argue about buying food for the kids ?

Fact of the matter is, success is learning not to worry. People ask me how is Mom doing (after her quad bypass) and I say OK I guess. I don't pester her every day exacting a health report. And people don't understand it sometimes. Some will say "I call you every day to see if you're OK" to which they might hear "Do you not understand how much I cringe when that fucking phone rings ?". Not bill collectors, we all have great credit, but people trying to sell shit. And my entire family knows, if they are trying to sell it, it probably isn't worth it. Waste my fucking time.

Success is having people understand, DO NOT LET MY PHONE RING MORE THAN FIVE TIMES UNLESS YOU ARE IN JAIL. Success is not having to work Saturday. I used to have to work Saturdays, now I am a leader in my field and I work when I damn well please, and I don't please to work on Saturday.

Happiness is when your friends respect your Saturday and don't really like to ask you to help them move or some shit. Happiness is when five guys can sit in a room passing a hooter around and nobody asks about anything, or yells "By God play some skynard".

Success and happiness have nothing to do with money. You can win the lotto and be miserable, or have thirty dollars to your name and be content. However success can be defined within the construct of one's work. I take a hell of alot of time off work, and they are happy to get what they get. They would like me to work all the time to the tune of around a thousand a week, but I have made the decision that my time is worth more than money. so they get what they get and I don't want to hear about it. Fuck with me and you get nothing.

And finally, happiness is being surrounded by people you can trust. Happiness is being in control of who is around you. Trusting only the right people is essential to this. Happiness is having no roommates, even if that means no regular Woman waiting at home. I can flick my ashes right on the floor.

Being able to crank it up at three AM is nice too, No taxes, insurance or house payment helps, but that is all financial. Doing what I want is the most important.

Put it this way, they would bend over for me at work. I could take a position of extreme authority real quick (it is creeping up on me, there have been times everyone there was considered my assistant), and I do not have to bust ass at all. But it doesn't matter, since I am there for money it is work. I could drink beer all day at work if I wanted, but I don't. I can smoke at work. They can fine the boss $2,000 for that (Ohio), but I can do it. But it is still work. No matter what they do, the end of the day is the goal.

And happiness comes with the weekend, that is when the seatbelt comes off and the car radio goes all the way up. That is when I know I do not have to do this until next week, and I can wake up in the morning and think about nothing for as long as I please.

Don't get me wrong, I almost like the challenge of my job, but to have the responsibility removed for the weekend, that is important. I don't give a shit about anything. At 11 AM I am jamming UFO-Lights Out. Going to get some beer soon. Anybody wants anything, I will think about it after that.

Don't get me wrong, life is not a bowl of cherries. At least not until the AC works in my car, and my amp is fixed. Not until I am out of debt.

In a way life is a balance, for example I am a never late when it comes to credit. I could buy a house on a credit card, but I am in debt. Being in debt is a failure, but the success of keeping everything paid is important.

Most importantly, there are things you do that are not for money. When those things turn out right, that is success.

T




philosophy -> RE: How do you define success and happiness? (6/30/2007 8:38:13 AM)

......success for me is achieving what i set out to do
happiness is the absence of unhappiness, ie a base state of being.




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