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RE: Butlers - 6/29/2007 11:45:46 PM

gooddogbenji

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

There is a International Guild of Butlers, to which I highly recommend training with if one wishes to be serious at being a Butler.

Having investigated the guild both as an agency to find a butler and to potentially attend their school, I have to say I have been disappointed. Their candidates they brought forward had nothing near the qualifications we wanted, response time was slow, and they were unreasonably expensive; as a potential attendee I applied online and heard nothing for at least 2 months, when I got an informal "You still interested?" e-mail.

Not what I would expect from a world class school.

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RE: Butlers - 6/30/2007 12:58:14 AM

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Having now researched the site (http://www.butlersguild.com), I am not impressed by them what-so-ever. They give a great illusion of grandeur, however they use colloquialisms, they can't keep their facts in line from paragraph to paragraph, and they continually repeat themselves. Hardly a level of detail I would expect from the pinnacle of the profession...

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RE: Butlers - 6/30/2007 2:32:04 AM

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Thank you for the post servant2Her: It certainly is encouraging to note that a number of Dommes would like to have a butler, valet or domestic servant. This servant has been offering himself in this capacity for a few years now without success. Perhaps your post will draw the attention and more Women will be willing to include this type servant to Her household. Thank you again. Also thanks to all of the Dominant Woman who have responded to this post.

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RE: Butlers - 6/30/2007 6:36:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: servant2her

Just wondering if any of the Mistresses out there currently have or have had a sub serve them as a butler either full or part-time. If so, did you seek this from your sub or was it offered to you?

This is something I seek. I personally enjoy good service. Perhaps it has to do with my culinary background and a few trips to Europe during my culinary days. Europeans enjoy a sense of service and etiquitte that has been lost in the US. Maybe it never really made the voyage to begin with, I don't know. Most people are more comfortable in Mc Donald's than a 5 star resturant. The reality of having a servant is not for everyone. There is a "dance" that is required to be properly served. The person being served must have some understand of service in order to allow the servant to perform their duties.

My house, or as one friend puts it "my kink" is service. I seek service orient slaves for my house. The kink of the dungeon is just for fun. I can live "service" 24/7. I can't live my life in the dungeon.

Many people are uncomfortable being taken care of in this manner. It requires study not only on the servant's side but the master or mistress' side as well. Books like Mrs Beeton's Book of Household Management, etiquitte and other service manuals become required reading. PBS did a mini series entittled Manor House which explored the power dynamic of service. Well worth the watch. Upstairs, Downstairs was mentioned which makes many fine points but it was also about the ending of service as a way of life.

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I enjoy this kind of service very much but have had a bit of a hard time finding a Mistress that was into it, or had an understanding of what was entailed. Thought I would ask here to try and guage its popularity as a form of service.

Thank you all.

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RE: Butlers - 6/30/2007 6:48:19 AM

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Hello servant2her and welcome to the Forums.

I would very much enjoy having a butler in my household when the circumstances permit.

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 1:11:37 AM

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If I had a bigger house that might work.

That's been my experience as well. Although I have a full butlers tux with tails it's really only come in handy when they've wanted to throw a party with their friends, wanted me to prepare and serve a candle lit dinner for her and her partner or other specific event.

On the topic of the butler shortage I've heard about butler's making over $100 grand a year as well and that there's a shortage of them. Although that would be really interesting to check out I have a suspicion that it was just Rupert Murdoch or some other media big wig complaining about not being able to get a good butler and it got blown out of proportion by the media for a quick story.

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 3:02:58 AM

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Dear gooddogbenji, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Oh my! Well, I have had better luck then--but, it has been a long while ago as well.

That really is a shame gooddogbenji. It is hard to find good servants and harder yet--butlers.

Have you considered contacting the International Willard Hotel in Washington, DC? It is an extremely old hotel that has a fine reputation for personal service. Perhaps they can advise if and or where butlers for Washington, DC can be found. The only other consideration would be contacting the US White House, Head Usher --See if he has any recommendations.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 3:07:07 AM

LadyHugs

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Dear MistressMelissa, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I have to agree with your comments of "The Manor House." Also have to agree, that I would indeed love to have someone like Hudson.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 3:58:55 AM

james66

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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

Have you ever seen Upstairs/Downstairs? I could certainly use a "Hudson" of my own! We have a multiple-servant home with no servants!

a smashing tv series. and Hudson was a lucky man indeed

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 4:31:26 AM

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It doesn't interest us in general, because we've typically been offered this by guys in our area who are not at all what we are looking for in terms of a relationship, and we have no desire to be served by someone that we are not in a relationship with. With someone that we are involved with, we would be far more interested - but we have to find someone who fits what we are looking for and who has the time to give such service first.

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 4:50:47 AM

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I suppose butler service has to be the closest thing to a 24/7 lifestyle where fantasy and roleplaying actally borders over to a realistic circumstance. But something tells me the framework has to be there. Etiquette and a formal demeanor on behalf of the butler may require a corresonding setting; at least in the presence of the Lady one serves. And in such an evironment, can the D/s relationship get any closer to as real as it gets?

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 8:40:09 AM

MySweetSubmssive

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I would be interested in a servant (a butler, with my home, presses the bounds of credulity). What I find is that a few people express an interest in the idea, but tend to lose interest when it comes to learning the details.

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 8:42:49 AM

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How interesting that you post this, I actually will be experiencing this Myself for the first time late this summer---My very own butler!

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 5:48:58 PM

Evanesce

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quote:

I suppose butler service has to be the closest thing to a 24/7 lifestyle where fantasy and roleplaying actally borders over to a realistic circumstance. But something tells me the framework has to be there. Etiquette and a formal demeanor on behalf of the butler may require a corresonding setting; at least in the presence of the Lady one serves. And in such an evironment, can the D/s relationship get any closer to as real as it gets?

We have the setting (there's a pic of our house on my profile). Unfortunately, we have failed to meet a single slave who truly wishes to serve in a domestic capacity. All I've found are those who want me to "make" them do things. Mama don't play that game.

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RE: Butlers - 7/8/2007 6:15:46 PM

MistressSassy66

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I like either Butlers or Maids.
They both have their place in the home.

For Me its important that anyone looking to be considered for a live-in
situation know how to set a table,do laundry,answer the phone etc.
While they may not have to do all of these tasks,they should
know how just in case.

A great site is www.frugaldomme.com for info about both butler and maid services.

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