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TheHeretic -> Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 9:55:41 AM)

       This showed up in my e-mail last week.  Worth thinking about, at least in my humble opinion.


War torn Iraq has about 26 million residents, a peaceful California perhaps now 35 million The former is a violent and impoverished landscape, the latter said to be paradise on Earth. But how you envision either place to some degree depends on the eye of the beholder and is predicated on what the daily media appear to make of each.
 
As a fifth generation Californian, I deeply love this state, but still imagine what the reaction would be if the world awoke each morning to be told that once again there were six more murders, 27 rapes, 38 arsons, 180 robberies, and 360 instances of assault in California yesterday, today, tomorrow, and every day. I wonder if the headlines would scream about "Nearly 200 poor Californians butchered again this month!"
 
How about a monthly media dose of "600 women raped in February alone!" Or try, "Over 600 violent robberies and assaults in March, with no end in sight!" Those do not even make up all of the state's yearly 200,000 violent acts that law enforcement knows about.
 
Iraq 'S judicial system seems a mess. On the eve of the war, Saddam let out 100,000 inmates from his vast prison archipelago. He himself sat in the dock months after his trial began. But imagine an Iraq with a penal system like California’s with 170,000 criminals - an inmate population larger than those of Germany , France , the Netherlands , and Singapore combined. Just to house such a shadow population costs our state nearly $7 billion a year or about the same price of keeping
40,000 Army personnel per year in Iraq . What would be the image of our Golden State if we were reminded each morning, "Another $20 million spent today on housing our criminals"?
 
Some of California 'S most recent prison scandals would be easy to sensationalize: "Guards watch as inmates are raped!" Or "Correction officer accused of having sex with under-aged detainee!" And apropos of Saddam's sluggish trial, remember that our home state multiple murderer, Tookie Williams, was finally executed in December 2005 - TWENTY SIX years after he was originally sentenced.
 
Much is made of the inability to patrol Iraq 'S borders with Iran , Jordan , Kuwait , Saudi Arabia , Syria , and Turkey . But California has only a single border with a foreign nation, not six. Yet over 3 million foreigners who sneaked in illegally now live in our state. Worse, there are about 15,000 convicted alien felons incarcerated in our penal system, costing about $500 million a year. Imagine the potential tabloid headlines: "Illegal aliens in state comprise population larger than San Francisco !" or "Drugs, criminals, and smugglers given free pass into California !"
 
Every year, over 4,000 Californians die in car crashes - more than the number of Americans lost so far in the years of combat operations in Iraq . In some sense, then, our badly maintained roads, and often poorly trained and sometimes intoxicated drivers, are even more lethal than IED's (Improvised Explosive Devices.) Perhaps tomorrow's headline might scream out at us: "300 Californians to perish this month on state highways! Hundreds more will be maimed and crippled!"
 
In 2001, California had 32 days of power outages, despite paying nearly the highest rates for electricity in the United States . Before complaining about the smoke in Baghdad rising from private generators, think back to the run on generators in California when they were contemplated as a future part of every household's line of defense.
 
We're told that Iraq 'S finances are a mess. Yet until recently, so were California 'S. Two years ago, Governor Schwarzenegger inherited a $38 billion annual budget shortfall. That could have made for strong morning newscast teasers: "Another $100 million borrowed today - $3 billion more in red ink to pile up by month's end!"
 
So is California comparable to Iraq ? Hardly. Yet it could easily be sketched by a reporter intent on doing so as a bankrupt, crime-ridden area with murderous highways, tens of thousands of inmates, with wide-open borders.
 
I myself recently returned home to California , without incident, from a visit to Iraq 'S notorious Sunni Triangle. While I was gone, a drug-addicted criminal with a long list of convictions broke into our kitchen at 4 a.m. Was surprised by my wife and daughter, and fled with our credit cards, cash, keys, and cell phones Sometimes I wonder who really was safer that week. 

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Kirata -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 10:00:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

This showed up in my e-mail last week. Worth thinking about, at least in my humble opinion.


Indeed.
 
K.
 




NorthernGent -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 10:17:19 AM)

Well, yeah, the US has a high rate of serious crime - murder, rape, domestic violence etc  - when compared with the developed world.

I'm not convinced 2 million Californians have been displaced, however, because of war, or seen their homes, infrastructure and basic facilities such as sanitation demolished (primarily by foreign, occupying forces).

No, there isn't a comparison between war-torn Iraq and a nation with a high rate of serious crime. For a kick-off, your high rate of serious crime is self-imposed, whereas their demolished infrastructure and basic human necessities began when the wise men turned up on their doorstep spreading glad tidings and good will.

In terms of beauty being in the eye of the beholder, now there's a thing.




caitlyn -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 10:39:40 AM)

I was born in California, so I can talk bad about it. [;)]

California is about as much like the rest of the United States, as Iraq is.

Short story ... there was once a sting in California, where they passed out fliers to runnaway kids living out on the streets, offering medical care, food and help. When you showed up at "the clinic", the Police were there, tasked with sending you back to foster care, juvi home, psycho parents ... whatever.

Image is everything ... ha-ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4F3x5bRVEg 

Opps ... I think this may have been a post-jack. [;)]




TheHeretic -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 10:50:07 AM)

        Hiya, North.

      I suppose we could trade links about whether the Iraqi infrastructure is better or worse than in the Saddam era.  Your tragic family that cannot bathe and must poop in a bucket, and my team of Air Force civil engineers drilling wells and running electricity to villages that have never had running water or lightswitches.

      I could point out that Iraq has nothing like the economic attack of millions of foreign nationals strip mining our social services and destroying the public health system.  

      The e-mail was simply about the levels of violence, and how they are reported in the news.  Most of the bodies in LA don't even make the newspaper, much less the 6 o'clock news.  No suicide bombers here yet, of course.  




NorthernGent -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 11:29:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

I was born in California, so I can talk bad about it. [;)]



The rule book I'm holding in my hand states quite clearly that it is forbidden to "talk bad" of California if you haven't lived there for at least 22 years, thus rendering your post null and void. It's fully endorsed by God, by the way, so no use crying to him/her/it about it.




caitlyn -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 11:35:16 AM)

God?
 
Haven't you read Neitzsche? [;)]




NorthernGent -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 11:35:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

       Hiya, North.

     I suppose we could trade links about whether the Iraqi infrastructure is better or worse than in the Saddam era.  Your tragic family that cannot bathe and must poop in a bucket, and my team of Air Force civil engineers drilling wells and running electricity to villages that have never had running water or lightswitches.

     I could point out that Iraq has nothing like the economic attack of millions of foreign nationals strip mining our social services and destroying the public health system.  

     The e-mail was simply about the levels of violence, and how they are reported in the news.  Most of the bodies in LA don't even make the newspaper, much less the 6 o'clock news.  No suicide bombers here yet, of course.  


Evening Wyrd,

I really don't see any parallel in the level of violence, regardless of the extent of crime in California.

2 million people displaced, upwards of 600,000 dead in what? a five year period?

In terms of the level of violence, if it's an issue, the only way to solve it is to get at the root causes of the problem.




NorthernGent -> RE: Eye of the Beholder (6/30/2007 11:50:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

God?
 
Haven't you read Neitzsche? [;)]


In a round-a-bout fashion. I tend to agree that the belief in a better, second life and an invisible guiding force is slavery and weak-willed. I also find sense in Pavlov's theory that God is a social reflex and serves an in-built human need for shared consciousness.

Then again, I'm not a practicing catholic :-)




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