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certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 8:21:19 AM   
subcharmedlilone


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Status: offline 		Need to watch certain sub and slaves on this site and they know who i am speeking the ones u say they are the real thing and then just leave u hannging for no reason at all i was taught a submissive was a submissive and even when chatin or posting u need to be respectfull of those Master and Mistresses whom every they may be
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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 8:25:09 AM   
ProtagonistLily


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Status: offline 		Please god, not again with the 'rude subs' topic.

It's the internet...what do you really expect? If you were looking at personal ads in the newspaper, and found players, would you call the Editor and bitch? Would you then take out an ad to bitch about the other ads?

A little perspective goes a long way.

Lily

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 9:59:45 AM   
kc692


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subcharmedlilone

Need to watch certain sub and slaves on this site and they know who i am speeking the ones u say they are the real thing and then just leave u hannging for no reason at all i was taught a submissive was a submissive and even when chatin or posting u need to be respectfull of those Master and Mistresses whom every they may be


If according to you, they know who they are that you are directing this at, and you have said your peace, then this thread is finished, right???????

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 12:19:58 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

Need to watch certain sub and slaves on this site and they know who i am speeking the ones u say they are the real thing and then just leave u hannging for no reason at all i was taught a submissive was a submissive and even when chatin or posting u need to be respectfull of those Master and Mistresses whom every they may be


So, If I am reading this correctly you believe all subs should bow down to you because you call yourself...master or mistress?

If that is how you were taught, you were taught very wrong.
Do you believe the 70,000 people on this site are your own personal property because you claim you are something you may or may not be?

Perhaps this person is real and just got tired of the rubbish spewing from your mouth?

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 12:30:35 PM   
suberic


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Joined: 1/9/2005
From: Nashville TN
Status: offline 		That reminds me of an online scene I had at one time. The person running it was very adamant that it was GOING to happen a certain way, and nothing I did or said would change her mind. Needless to say I got nothing from it, and she dropped me fast. Oh well. Her loss.

Good tops listen to their subs and try to incorporate their wants into what they are doing. I submit to ONE person, my lady, and when she orders me to submit to someone else, I do so. She has not ordered anything of the sort here and you are not her (that's addressed to the OP).

Anyhow, just sayin'.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 12:36:46 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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Status: offline 		Actually, the OP was written by a female switch who has a Master. At least that's what it says on her profile.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 12:50:20 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

Good tops listen to their subs and try to incorporate their wants into what they are doing. I submit to ONE person, my lady, and when she orders me to submit to someone else, I do so. She has not ordered anything of the sort here and you are not her (that's addressed to the OP).

Anyhow, just sayin'.


Hehe, so it was YOU who were the offender? I always knew you were someone who had a good head on their shoulders.

Dusty, the way I see it, who cares who wrote it? They were still whining, correct?
Imagine if the time we put into whining about things we actually did something productive or took responsibility for our own actions how much more productivity there would be.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 1:05:26 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		That would have to mean that, you know, they might have to admit something about themselves.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 1:08:29 PM   
suberic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

Hehe, so it was YOU who were the offender? I always knew you were someone who had a good head on their shoulders.



Nope, but if your assessment is accurate, then the OP may be seeing me as a "target" to be dominated, even though I'm not a person who should be submitting to them.

Courtesy I'll do all day long, as long as it's mutual. Blind obedience for no other reason than "I said so and I'm a Dom(me)" is not even on the radar screen, not even in Gorean play (as I understand it).

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 2:12:12 PM   
WarVet


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Status: offline 		well, as a Dom....still new to the lifestyle I know other slaves and Subs are not to bow down to you unless...like suberic said, they are ordered to, and out of respect for our subs that shouldn't happen very often unless it's their thing to pass subs for others to play with. courtesy "Sir" or "Ma'am" I can understand. as I have my sub address people that aren't easy to figure out if they are Doms or subs. but other than that...she will NOT bow down to anyone but me.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/14/2005 2:25:03 PM   
kc692


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

Actually, the OP was written by a female switch who has a Master. At least that's what it says on her profile.


And again, the Op seems to have been directing her remarks at certain individuals, trying to stir a pot so all the dom/dommes would band together and say, "whhhhattt?: you mean a sub dared not treat you respectfully?" I think the master that is training her needs to go back to training himself, if this is what they think in general. I imagine someone got a letter as full of typos and grammatical errors as her profile, and laughed it off. So, if at certain people, or not, I would not think this is someone (the OP) could have something explained to them and them understand, so...apparently they need to learn the hard way by being treated as warranted by their treatment of others.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/15/2005 12:23:25 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

i was taught a submissive was a submissive and even when chatin or posting u need to be respectfull of those Master and Mistresses whom every they may be


Yep that is exactly what was said. Bow down to all and anything because you claim you are a submissive.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 10:26:34 AM   
NomiJade


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Status: offline 		Just because I am A sub does not make me YOUR sub. I am respectful where respect is EARNED.

And let's not forget that not all subs are 24/7 lifestylers here. For some it is a flavor to their life, but not the be-all and end-all of their exsistance.

Nomi

Edit: I realize this sounds bad. As far as I know, I was not the one being refered to, I was just expressing my usual sentiment to assertations of this kind. Although I bet I am on this person's list now!

< Message edited by NomiJade -- 6/16/2005 10:28:00 AM >

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 10:32:17 AM   
Tempestspet


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Status: offline 		Nomi,
I don't think what you said was bad. It was true, and that's not bad. Just... for those that don't like truth, it's hard to hear....

Oh, and thank you for saying it before I could...smiles...


Tempest's pet
jennifer


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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 10:36:49 AM   
NomiJade


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Status: offline 		What I meant by "bad" was "not as I intended." My original post sounded like I was the target of the original poster, and I've never met this person before, online or otherwise, so I clearly wasn't. But like I said, I'm now probably on that "List" of "bad subs" who don't "properly respect" Masters/Mistresses. (At least, I hope I am!) I mean, for gosh sakes, I capitalize I! *grins* Okay, so I'm mischevious today.

Nomi

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 10:42:30 AM   
Tempestspet


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Status: offline 		laughs....true...then I suppose I will be there as well....


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jennifer

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 11:17:52 AM   
fillepink


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Status: offline 		o for crying out loud..this is akin to the question of why do we have to address every man as "Master" (or another title) when he 1st contacts us. i have only told a few P/pl to f**k off, and that happened before i found "block user" and only after twice trying to politely say "no ty". i generally use upper and lower cases, cuz i get a kick out it. apart from that, i try to be polite by (a) responding, if only to say "no ty"; and (b) refraining from belittling A/anyone. what respect is due a complete stranger met by email on a BDSM site? a modicum of pleastantry, i think, for submissives are people too, and this is a civilized world. but i suspect for the person who began this thread, that is not enough..i think (probably a man) wants bowing and scraping. being an american without a queen to curtsey to, i'm all out of bowing and scraping to people i do not know..and have damned little for people i have known.

i think if you are not being treated respectfully, one of two things is going on: (a) you have been rude yourself or (b) your concept of what a submissive should behave like on 1st contact is skewed. i'd bet $5, it's (b); and he thinks the submissives he's been meeting are rude for not using his self-awarded title or questioning him about himself. in short, he's vanilla. i guess that was rude..but somehow i don't feel apologetic. maybe tomorrow. fillepink




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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/16/2005 10:52:36 PM   
BeachMystress


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There is a good chance the people who quit responding to you, did so because they judged that you aren't "real". Insistence upon protocol being shown before it is warranted by an agreed upon relationship is usually the hallmark of an online player.

You are not owed anything by a submissive you do not own. Nor as a sub, do you need to give yourself and your respect indiscriminately to anyone who claims to be a Dominant. Respect is earned, not given to anyone who says, I am a Dominant, bow down to me worm. It is real easy to stick the title Dom/me on your name. It's just a word and doesn't automatically make you a Dom/me, does it? Hell, a percentage of the "Domme" in online chat rooms are male! People pretend to be things they aren't online all the time! So why should a sub offer respect to someone in a channel just because they claim to be a Dominant? You have to prove you are via your actions and demeanor.

I actually would not deal with a sub who was willing to perform obeisance to just anyone, as I'd be nothing special with them. They'd given themselves to everyone already. Quite distasteful!

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/17/2005 5:32:51 AM   
EmeraldSlave2


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
I actually would not deal with a sub who was willing to perform obeisance to just anyone, as I'd be nothing special with them. They'd given themselves to everyone already. Quite distasteful!


But I taste yummy and am willing to perform obedience for almost anyone...there are people I say no to, I use judgement...for me giving myself to so many is no reference to a lessening of my service, it's value or character.

But if you find me or my service distasteful, I would understand, though be sad and confused.

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RE: certain sub on this channel - 6/17/2005 1:25:37 PM   
MaggieLynn


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subcharmedlilone

Need to watch certain sub and slaves on this site and they know who i am speeking the ones u say they are the real thing and then just leave u hannging for no reason at all i was taught a submissive was a submissive and even when chatin or posting u need to be respectfull of those Master and Mistresses whom every they may be


Wow...LOL. Out of all the message boards I belong to I think I've seen this exact same topic on each and every one of them.

The thing is, Dom/Top or sub/slave has no bearing on being polite or having manners. You should behave respectfully toward others reguardless of your possition in relation to the lifestyle.

Unfortunantly, there are rude people everywhere... and others that normally would have manners that seem to believe that the instant you sit down behind a computer screen the need to present them goes out the window.

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