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NEW ORLEANS - The government's repairs to New Orleans' hurricane-damaged levees may put the French Quarter in greater danger than it was before Hurricane Katrina, a weakness planners said couldn't be helped, at least for now.

Experts say the stronger levees and flood walls could funnel storm water into the cul-de-sac of the Industrial Canal, only 2 miles from Bourbon Street, and overwhelm the waterway's 12-foot-high concrete flood walls that shield some of the city's most cherished neighborhoods.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19569767


WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter defended conservative pundit Ann Coulter’s incendiary commentary Monday, saying Coulter was “closely approaching that level of being a great American.”

The comments by Hunter, a Republican representative from California, came in an interview on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” where he was asked for his reaction to criticism of Coulter by Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, a Democratic presidential candidate.

***editorial comment by ye old Level: loFuckinglol at "great American"***
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19570266


ACCRA, Ghana - African leaders argued fiercely on Monday over whether to rapidly create a single state stretching from the Cape Town to Cairo, with one small group threatening to break away and forge ahead with the project.

Delegates said the atmosphere in an African Union summit was charged as a group of states led by Libya's Muammar Gaddafi and Senegal's Abdoulaye Wade argued with a more gradualist majority led by South Africa's Thabo Mbeki.

"I think everybody is a little bit tense, because they know how serious this is," Senegalese Foreign Minister Cheikh Tidiane Gadio said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19570933


TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has rejected a proposal by Oscar-winning movie director Oliver Stone to make a film about him because Stone is part of the “Great Satan” cultural establishment, a semiofficial news agency reported.

“I sent a negative answer by Ahmadinejad to Oliver Stone,” the Fars agency quoted Mehdi Kalhor, media adviser to the president, as saying Sunday. “It is right that this person is considered part of the opposition in the U.S., but opposition in the U.S. is a part of the Great Satan.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19571993


BRASILIA, Brazil - Brazil's government anti-slavery team freed more than 1,000 laborers from inhumane working conditions on a sugar cane plantation in the Amazon, officials said Monday.

The International Labor Organization in a statement called it the largest single bust ever made in Brazil, where some 160 illegal work sites have been raided in the past few years.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19571117


NEW ORLEANS - For proof that Hurricane Katrina is transforming the ethnic flavor of New Orleans — and creating altogether new tensions — look no further than the taco trucks.

Lunch trucks serving Latin American fare are appearing around New Orleans, catering to the immigrant laborers who streamed into the city in search of work after Katrina turned much of the place into a construction zone.

The trucks are a common sight in barrios from Los Angeles to New York, but controversial in a city still adapting to a threefold increase in Hispanics since Katrina.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19567902


WASHINGTON - A key auto industry group on Monday endorsed a House proposal to increase gas mileage standards for new passenger vehicles to at least 32 miles per gallon by 2022, calling it a more reasonable approach than a Senate plan approved last month.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which represents General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co., Toyota Motor Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG, said it would build support for the plan to require cars and trucks to go farther on a gallon of gasoline. The group opposes a competing measure that would demand 35 mpg for new vehicles by 2018.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19553789



 
 




pahunkboy -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 4:08:45 AM)

Pa still doesnt have a state budget. next time u drive i80- be prepared as they likely will turn it into a toll road.




dragone -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 4:26:20 PM)

Hi; you should have began with: Hello, Mr. N Mrs. Americaa, and all the ships at sea....now the news.




popeye1250 -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 5:55:13 PM)

Thirty two miles per gallon by 2022?
I figured that they'd be up around EIGHTY miles per gallon by then! Fuckin Pikers!




Sinergy -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 7:58:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Thirty two miles per gallon by 2022?
I figured that they'd be up around EIGHTY miles per gallon by then! Fuckin Pikers!


Well, yes and no.

A lot of the issue, popeye, is that people buy cars that do the following.

1)  Dont explode when rear ended.

2)  The passengers dont die in an accident.

3)  The car will go a reasonable speed, 65, 75, whatever.

4)  The car will go 300 miles on a tank of gas.

5)  The car has to pollute below a certain level.  Catalytic converters bleed energy off the engine to function.

Speaking to the first 2, this is a question of physics.

One gets a certain amount of energy out of combustion or whatever.

Energy used has the mass of the object moved as a function of the equation, minus whatever energy you use to recharge the battery, deal with pollution, run the air conditioner, etc.

In order to protect the people in the car (read: avoid lawsuits filed by beneficiaries for making an unsafe car)
the car has to be built to a certain structure level (read:  weight).

Building to that weight takes more energy.  Using more gas.  Etc.

Not saying I know the solution, but gas mileage is not strictly a function of a bunch of corporate assholes trying to keep gas usage up.  Look at the success of the Prius; people WILL pay more for a fuel efficient car.

Sinergy




uwinceismile -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 8:36:11 PM)

hell,,im hoping in 15 yrs that our dependence on oil will have been considerably lessened....
but then, i said that 15 yrs ago as well ;)




Vendaval -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/3/2007 11:33:34 PM)

Can anyone please explain to me what the -

" “Great Satan” cultural establishment"
 
looks like or how to identify it?
 
Is this something you can order Online?  [sm=idea.gif]




twistedlink -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/4/2007 12:13:09 AM)

Catalytic Converters by themselves do nothing to harm the efficiency of the vehicle. It's only requirement is that the car burn unleaded fuel, which no one in their right mind wants anyway. Exhaust Gas Recirculation's (EGR) purpose is to put some exhaust back into the engine to burn off unburnt fuel. This requires a belt driven pump, which does have a parasitic effect. However, one of the major causes of poor mileage is the decrease in valve overlap in camshaft design. In pre-EPA engines, valve overlap was substancial, as the exhaust gas exiting helped to pull the fresh air/fuel mixture into the cylinder, maximizing efficiency. This unfortunately caused unburnt gas to be dragged along down the exhaust ports. Today's camshaft profiles are cleaner, but at the cost of efficiency and performance. The roller lifter camshaft in the 5.0L Mustang was an attempt to keep the engine clean, by maintaining the same cylinder fill as before EPA regs, through steeper intake valve cam profiles.

I think...




Level -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/4/2007 3:20:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Can anyone please explain to me what the -

" “Great Satan” cultural establishment"
 
looks like or how to identify it?
 
Is this something you can order Online?  [sm=idea.gif]


Pic of the Great Satan 

No online ordering instructions were found

[:D]




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/4/2007 5:41:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Thirty two miles per gallon by 2022?
I figured that they'd be up around EIGHTY miles per gallon by then! Fuckin Pikers!


im still pissed i aint flying around like the jetsons here in 2007........




Sinergy -> RE: And now.... the news. (7/4/2007 12:11:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Catalytic Converters by themselves do nothing to harm the efficiency of the vehicle. It's only requirement is that the car burn unleaded fuel, which no one in their right mind wants anyway. Exhaust Gas Recirculation's (EGR) purpose is to put some exhaust back into the engine to burn off unburnt fuel. This requires a belt driven pump, which does have a parasitic effect. However, one of the major causes of poor mileage is the decrease in valve overlap in camshaft design. In pre-EPA engines, valve overlap was substancial, as the exhaust gas exiting helped to pull the fresh air/fuel mixture into the cylinder, maximizing efficiency. This unfortunately caused unburnt gas to be dragged along down the exhaust ports. Today's camshaft profiles are cleaner, but at the cost of efficiency and performance. The roller lifter camshaft in the 5.0L Mustang was an attempt to keep the engine clean, by maintaining the same cylinder fill as before EPA regs, through steeper intake valve cam profiles.

I think...


Sounds about right.  Last car I actively rebuilt and worked on was a 1974...

Sinergy




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