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jinglesmar -> pony cart? (7/3/2007 9:57:36 AM)

I am going to drive myself nuts trying to find a reasonably priced, sized for me (I'm only about 120 pounds....lotsa muscle, though, for that weight) cart I can pull. My master would prefer himself to be standing not sitting, like on a sulky. Anyone have any advice. I am new/ignorant enough to pony carts that I am not sure I could design one.....YET!

TIA!!

Love, able




Termyn8or -> RE: pony cart? (7/3/2007 12:33:52 PM)

Well, it's not like walking into a car dealership to say the least. You can indeed find these things on the net but they are likely to be pricey. Probably well built no doubt, but not cheap.

Now the first thing will show the difference between engineers and regular folk. You mentioned what you weigh, that doesn't mean a thing, what matters is what does your Master weigh ? The axle and wheels should be able to support about five to seven times his dead weight.

Then his position must be considered. At comfort, somewhere between 5 and 20 % of his weight should be on you. This is a simple lever with the axle being the fulcrum.

All this does depend on the design you want. Or he wants, whichever. Some of these carts are simply pulled by hand, and at the other extreme some carts are restrictive, with you in a harness and your hands bound to the poles or something. I have quite a collection of pony pictures, and sometimes the "pony" is really in bondage and can't get out. Some Masters even put their ponies in chastity belts.

Get me on the other side with a real email that can accept attachments and I will send you the collection. Most of it is no longer on the web due to USC2257. Some of these getups are pretty gnarly to a bondage freak like me. My preference would be that everything locks, so even a passer by could not get you loose. Even if you stick with private property and never go in public, the feeling has got to be incredible.

Have you worn a bit and harness ? If you go that route there goes a bit of money. You can build a nice cart for a couple of hundred. But you might have up to ten times that much into your "tack".

Even going the simplest route for now, with the cart being simply hand pulled, there are a few constants. If your Manster is not morbidly obese, bicycle wheels should do just fine. The only problem is properly supporting the cart on the axle. Also consider if you want to have some form of suspension on it rather than a straight up axle. Give him a cushy ride and at the same time, when in motion it will be easier on the pony, less jerking due to bumps in the road, or floor.

Another important consideration is the weight of the cart. It's not just that a heavier cart is harder to get going, it's that it is harder to STOP. I doubt Master wants your face ploughed into a brick wall. Unless you are into some really serious shit that is :-).In any case I would suggest some brakes, no matter how simple. This could just be a rod that hits the ground.

I have always wanted to try this, and one great concern of mine is going downhill. As much as I like the idea, having my face pushed along the ground and all scraped up would be a big turnoff.

Finding two identical bicycles would be nice, you could use the forks, which would facilitate some sort of spring suspension nicely, and then you should be able to use the stock bicycle brakes. The cables should be run to a lever in a manner where they self equalize, like center pull bike brakes, and should have a way to lock as like a parking brake. That way if you are restrained to the thing Master will surely find you where he left you.

Actually the cart should not be so heavy that you can't drag it, although it should not be easy. In my view, the completed curb weight should not exceed 200 lbs. Less is better in this case.

If you are to be restrained to it, you need like a runner under the poles by which you pull the cart so that they will not hit the ground. That way if you fall, the harness will actually protect you, supporting you during the mishap so you don't leave part of your face on the ground. Still the thought of that scenario makes me shrink.

Care must be taken to try to insure this thing does not break you back or legs.

Anyway, for now I am just throwing a few ideas out there. Carts can be bought. They are not cheap though. I don't know what type of tools you and Master have, but if you're good with wood, have a bicycle shop in the area and have a bit of ingenuity you can build the thing.

Using bicycle forks allows you to setup a virtual center of gravity, so that if Master shifts his weight forward or back, that load is not immediately and fully reflected to you. (for lack of better words). The travel of the suspension can also be angled so that in forward motion the wheels tend to roll more easily over bumps. That is what they do in automobiles. If you watch a luxury rear wheel drive car spin it's wheels they suck up into the body. That is a function of the suspension that delivers the superior ride. However in a race car they do not do that, in fact they do the opposite until they get wheel hop and back it off a few degrees. This is to provide the maximum traction. We do not have that problem though, because YOU power the cart, there are no drive wheels, unless you are into some seriously heavy shit :-) ( I like to throw that in from time to time ).

I am a self educated engineer, and I am kinkier than a ten foot piece of wire it took three hours to extricate from a lawn mower. I have given this some thought, and one day would like to go into building bondage gear, which includes pony gear and carts. I am no stranger to force vectors, and shear as well as tensional/compressional forces. Let's not forget torsion. When I build something it does not break.

I would love to build a cart, almost for the simple satisfaction of it, but no, I do need to be paid. I don't know if anything will ever come of this, since we are two states away. But I am here with ideas anytime.

Hit me on the other side if you want those pictures. If this is something you want to do I bet you'll at least like looking at them. And they might give you some ideas.

T




Elegant -> RE: pony cart? (7/3/2007 11:53:53 PM)

Although you specifically said not a sit-down like a sulky...for those that are interested in sulky types I can suggest using modified instructions for making a goat cart.


This is adorable  http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/06/kid_chariot_tricycle_trai.html ....but don't show it to Master Archer or he'll make an adult size one and have me searching for an adult size trike.






Areflectionofyou -> RE: pony cart? (7/4/2007 4:44:25 AM)

My friend mike makes them at waterhole.com a leather /kink store in Ct he is also fairly well known in the pony world as buck the pony.
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ORIGINAL: jinglesmar

I am going to drive myself nuts trying to find a reasonably priced, sized for me (I'm only about 120 pounds....lotsa muscle, though, for that weight) cart I can pull. My master would prefer himself to be standing not sitting, like on a sulky. Anyone have any advice. I am new/ignorant enough to pony carts that I am not sure I could design one.....YET!

TIA!!

Love, able




jinglesmar -> RE: pony cart? (7/4/2007 6:14:25 AM)

Thanks, everyone! I appreciate it!

Love, able




Termyn8or -> RE: pony cart? (7/4/2007 7:44:38 AM)

jing, right now you should have an email from ZZ something at aol.com. Don't throw it out, there are about 70 pictures attached.

I also have a couple of video clips if you want them.

In one video "how heavy is Master" gets quite clear. This filly is pulling a cart uphill and you can hear her struggling with it. Hope it doesn't make you change your mind :-)

Within those pictures if you see a cart you really like, well I can build damnear anything. Your filenames will match my filenames so you can just tell me which picture. It is not inconcievable that I would build something, throw it in my pickup truck and drive over. Of course you would know what it costs first, always.

Incidentally, don't lose those pictures, I just stopped by nyrenegades.com which is where some of them came from. They seem gay oriented, not pony oriented. It now appears you have to be a member to get those pics, I couldn't find them. Even a Google image search comes up with alot less.

Friggin stupid US government. You can't show pictures of people having sex and you can't show pictures of people who can't have sex. Geez.

It just occurred to me, if I build the thing, I suppose I would have to test it right ? :-)

T




jinglesmar -> RE: pony cart? (7/4/2007 8:09:32 AM)

Those are awesome!! Thank you SO much!! I wanted more of the House of Gord team! Very nice!! I will show them to my master.

Love, able




Termyn8or -> RE: pony cart? (7/5/2007 5:11:59 AM)

So did anything specific catch your eye ?

T




jinglesmar -> RE: pony cart? (7/5/2007 6:23:49 AM)

Yup! Lots! Great pics, thanks!

We are looking at something like this: Coyaltix Horse carts CT 12 but that is sized for a horse. Master is 150 pounds plus we'd like the option to add another pony, too.

This style cart can haul Master standing or sitting, plus give rides and haul gear. All that is quite desirable (but then there is the issue of storage and transporting it......oh why am I not independently wealthy?)

Love, able




MsDandsissykelly -> RE: pony cart? (7/5/2007 9:30:33 AM)

Hi, this is my first time posting on these forums ...but I had a thought.  Given your masters weight, size ect you may be interested in something like this off ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Easy-Entry-Horse-Cart-Pony-Horse-Size-60-Shafts_W0QQitemZ300127435415QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3154QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I never understood the need to build one (when cost of parts, material, labor and agrivation are a fator)  Take stormy leather for example they sell a "pony cart:" for $700.  The markup is the pervert tax.  A regular pony cart that an actual pony would pull works just as good for humans.  The auction on ebay is for a real pony cart....as for your other needs I am sure they can easily be adapted to suit them.  I (kelly)  have pulled my Miss in a reg pony cart and it works like a charm.

best of luck

sissy maid kelly




Termyn8or -> RE: pony cart? (7/5/2007 1:05:34 PM)

Not a bad idea. I would add runners at the bottom to prevent it from shoving the pony's face into the ground, and there should be brakes of some sort. But the basics are there.

No doubt it could be used as is with the proper precautions. And for $300 you are not paying a perv tax for sure. A decent bicycle can cost that easily.

T




latexbarbiets -> RE: pony cart? (7/5/2007 5:45:37 PM)

Dont know about making one. But i'm sure dying to pull one myself, going to pony training camp in sept:)

Barbie




DaddySur -> RE: pony cart? (7/15/2007 10:18:53 AM)

For those of you who want a pony cart and want to be able to both explain its place in the garage and transport it in your trunk with ease (without a truck), I will let you in on a dirty little NON-PC secret. Its actually VERY easy to "pervert" a lightweight wheelchair (purchased on Ebay for under $100) into a lightweight (and more importantly portable) pony cart. 

Those leg support things, usually slide out, (look for a chair with horizontal, not vertical receivers), and can be removed and replaced with pieces of tubing from home depot, to which eyebolts can be easily attached. The front wheels are also easily removed. Other advantantages are they are already safety tested for humans, they come standard with wheel brakes, and you can always explain to the neighbors that the chair from some best forgotten sports accident (...or that you are just pre-planning for your senility and loss of body control). However, do be careful with steep downhills trails or you could just need that wheelchair for its original purpose.

Anywayz, have fun and play safe!




Evlgryn -> RE: pony cart? (7/16/2007 10:50:39 PM)

I love the "Waterhole" and anything he sells has been thoughtfully created and tested with humans. If you can afford something from him you can't go wrong. My personal testimonial is I special ordered an oversized flogger from him which I abuse, plus it is so heavy it tends to tear apart from it's own weight.  I brought it back to him when it started to tear apart and he repaired it while I waited, and for free.

But I never suspected you could get a professional pony cart for $250.00. That gives me pause for thought, I was trying to cobble together something for games at a kinky campout, and have been giving the horse cart thing some thought lately.




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