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Perhaps we would have a better chance at charging them with false advertising...It says on the side of all LAPD  vehicles "to protect and serve"

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I have watched the video of the bank robbery and there were three cops on one side of a car and the bad guy on the other....stand up and take the shot.
As for suicide that is a crock.... my brothers and I have done it on more than one occasion and for a damn site less money and a whole lot less backup.

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Fact: Reaction time exceeds a committed shot by almost a half second.  Anyone who carries a gun for a living needs to know this.  To prove this to yourself take a dollar bill...

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Your problem is that you are always so nicey nice...why don't you tell us how you really feel.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
stef:
Perhaps we would have a better chance at charging them with false advertising...It says on the side of all LAPD  vehicles "to protect and serve"

I have watched the video of the bank robbery and there were three cops on one side of a car and the bad guy on the other....stand up and take the shot.
As for suicide that is a crock.... my brothers and I have done it on more than one occasion and for a damn site less money and a whole lot less backup. 
Fact: Reaction time exceeds a committed shot by almost a half second.  Anyone who carries a gun for a living needs to know this.  To prove this to yourself take a dollar bill and hold it in your left hand and hold your right hand under it so that the bill may pass in between the thumb and forefinger of your right hand.  Thumb and forefinger being at the bottom of the bill. Release the bill with your left hand and try to grasp it with the thumb and forefinger of your right hand.  You will catch it every time.  Now do this with a friend you drop the bill and they try to catch it.  Their reaction time exceeds the time it takes for the bill to fall past their fingers.
thompson

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Stef, they're "stupid" for excercising their Constitutional Rights which the state of Massachusetts is trying to deny them?

No, they are stupid for commiting a felony.

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You guys *still* don't get it in Massachusetts.

You have no idea what anyone other than you "gets."

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Governments exist to *serve* The People not to *dictate* to The People!
Just WHO the fuck is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to be denying The People their Rights and trying to tell The People what to do?
They've become a socialist nanny state.

Thank god we have great patriots like you whose solution to the problem is running away to another state instead of trying to change things. 

Fucking hypocrite.  You're in no position to preach to anyone else.

~stef

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Stef, they're "stupid" for excercising their Constitutional Rights which the state of Massachusetts is trying to deny them?

No, they are stupid for commiting a felony.

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You guys *still* don't get it in Massachusetts.

You have no idea what anyone other than you "gets."

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Governments exist to *serve* The People not to *dictate* to The People!
Just WHO the fuck is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to be denying The People their Rights and trying to tell The People what to do?
They've become a socialist nanny state.

Thank god we have great patriots like you whose solution to the problem is running away to another state instead of trying to change things. 

Fucking hypocrite.  You're in no position to preach to anyone else.

~stef

Stef, I'm not "preaching" that's the way it is!
If Massachusetts wants to be in the Union they need to follow the rules like everyone else!
Do you people need a "permit" to Vote there yet?
Watch, that'll be the next thing they go after!
I hate Bush but I wish he'd send Federal Troops to Massachusetts just like President Kennedy did to Alabama.
Talk about a backwards state!

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farglebargle:
Well it just goes to show you that an old dawg can learn new tricks.  I had never heard of a seven shot revolver. 
I am not sure just how well that would work in the model 57 or the 29.
Thank you for disabusing me of my ignorance.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: GrizzlyBear

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farglebargle:
Well it just goes to show you that an old dawg can learn new tricks.  I had never heard of a seven shot revolver. 
I am not sure just how well that would work in the model 57 or the 29.
Thank you for disabusing me of my ignorance.
thompson

Look here:
Or perhaps you would prefer 8 rounds
Or, for less money, this one

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Perhaps we would have a better chance at charging them with false advertising...It says on the side of all LAPD  vehicles "to protect and serve"

You would first need to get them to declare what it is they were protecting and serving. 

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I have watched the video of the bank robbery and there were three cops on one side of a car and the bad guy on the other....stand up and take the shot.
As for suicide that is a crock.... my brothers and I have done it on more than one occasion and for a damn site less money and a whole lot less backup.

You and your brothers have been pinned down by automatic weapon fire armed with only sidearms on more than one occasion?  Bummer.  Where was this?
Do you really want to hear an old man tell war stories?  And besides it is not as if we had a choice.

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Fact: Reaction time exceeds a committed shot by almost a half second.  Anyone who carries a gun for a living needs to know this.  To prove this to yourself take a dollar bill...

You know it's not simply a reaction time issue.
My point was that they swore and oath and get paid to do a job.  If you don't like the job or haven't the stomach for it then quit and sell shoes at Tom McCans.

~stef

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I have been out of the military for forty years and in all that time I have not needed to use a gun for personal defense once.

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ORIGINAL: SubinMaine

i have a pretty strong opinion on this matter and it may bring me into a negative light, but i could really care less....

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Do you really want to hear an old man tell war stories?  And besides it is not as if we had a choice.

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My point was that they swore and oath and get paid to do a job.  If you don't like the job or haven't the stomach for it then quit and sell shoes at Tom McCans.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Amazing, the notions that some people come up with in order to pronounce themselves superior to those who put themselves in harm's way.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

No difference... which is why calling the North Hollywood police action cowardice implies a distinct a lack of appreciation of what facing a bullet is like.

No one, military or police or firefighters, now or Vietnam, is trained to rush in ignoring tactical considerations,  without proper equipment, and get themselves killed for no other reason than wanting to look like a hero.

The job is to stay alive long enough to eliminate the threat.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
and the head shot comment works better in Hollywood than in reality
So training and policy dictate taking cover until things can be changed.., and the threat can be neutralized which is exactly what these officers did.