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rugbysub -> Older gay subs (7/5/2007 11:02:00 AM)

i'm an older (41) pretty normal masculine, confident gay guy who is finding it hard to find a 'real' Master who who wants a chunky (from playing rugby) mature sub to use/train/own and I'm not sure whether it becuase of my age, the way i've portrayed myself or whether I'm not of interest to most Masters for some reason.

I;m not sure whether it's my age or the fact i don't come across as overtly submissive or whether its actually more about whats going on in my headin terms of not being able to submit to guys who i don't think can 'master' me in the true sense of the word, but guys who i've met who have said they are Masters and seem to want me have turned out not to be the 'real' thing or have just not been Man or Masterful enough for me to submit to them properly and totally.

It also always seems to me that Masters seemingly prefer younger , slim smooth slaveboi types.

Is the age thing an issue? Are there any 'Real Men' Masters out there who like subs/slaves like me? Am i just not trying the right places? Can any Masters give me guidance on maybe how should project myself better?



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 11:27:44 AM)

Be warned... you've used the term "real". We're ALL looking for "real".

Have you tried getting out into your local community? Think about posting a picture in your profile, too.

Master Fire



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 11:42:48 AM)

pictures waiting to be approved at the moment as I've only just joined.
I do get out - I'm not new to the scene at all and go to the SM clubs etc and am pretty sociable when it comes to talking to people , meeting etc

I take your point about the 'real' word, sorry, i think what i was trying to say was that i have come across a fair few guys who have called themselves Masters and then turn out just to be role playing it or getting off on it for the night or do not have the real 'Dominance' to know how to deal with me - if i start feeling like 'i' could actually dominate them fairly easily it kind of loses it a bit for me and i find it hard to continue being that submissive for them.

that make sense at all?



Rover -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 12:31:52 PM)

I'm aghast!!!  Forty-one is "older"???
 
John



SirMIkeSD -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 12:43:03 PM)

I don't see 41 as older as I am 47.  You are in the age range I am looking at which is basically between 36 and 50.  In fact I perfer a boy with some meat on his bones, with the small tiny ones I worry that I will break them :-)  It takes time to find the right person, how long have you been looking?  It also looks like you are a bit of a challange, in the beginning it can be hard to determine how far you can go enforcing the domanance.  Have you made clear the limits that a Master can use to bring you under control.

Mike




Celeste43 -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 1:14:42 PM)

Have you looked in your local gay community? I find gay/lesbian power relationships underrepresented on a pansex site such as this.



instynctive -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 1:18:03 PM)

Mmmm.. rugged, sexy, subby, gay..?

Where do I find one of those?

[sm=banana.gif]



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 1:39:38 PM)

lol thanks for all the replies - i'm not sure whether i'd be considered a challenge SirMikeSd altho for some maybe - - i usually am pretty clear and upfront and i kind of think that some guys might like the idea of working on a guy they have to 'break' a little - some might think that is considered too much like hard work but then i'm thinking 'think of the benefits afterwards!' ;-)

I know 41 isn't that old and in my mind would seem perfect for someone cos they know their mind better but i do still get the impression that a lot of Masters 'like em younger' if you know what i mean.

Instinctive - rugged, sexy, subby, gay? thats kind what I'm saying so i guess you find em here lol but why does it feel like its so hard to find the guys that want that??



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 1:42:31 PM)

Oh by the way SirMIkeSD, that is one hell of a good beard Sir



beargonewild -> RE: Older gay subs (7/5/2007 3:14:37 PM)

Being a 46 yr old submissive switch, I've found that many Masters/Doms do prefer one who has some years under their belt and with some life experince. So far, I've not found my age to be detrimental at all. Granted we do have more life experience, yet our submissiveness still remains and a Master who is right for you, will see that and will take you as his property. Time and patience is the key.



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 12:22:32 AM)

Thnx beargonewild - I think i do kind of know that's true really - it's just it doesn't feel that way sometimes - I'll keep searching :-)



SirMIkeSD -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 6:32:22 AM)

rugbysub,

Thanks for comment on my beard.

Mike




MstrTiger -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 10:55:38 AM)


I think most men of a certain age go for the younger model regardless of their sexuality, it is just the nature of things, you even say in your profile that you yourself get dominant with men much younger than yourself so I think you are in a good position to understand such men’s motivations. I think it can be frustrating not being able to find someone you are totally compatible with though it is difficult thing to do, particularly in the gay community where people tend to be very fickle, and I include myself in that and having looked through your profile I get the impression that you are also of a somewhat similar mindset. I think that if you are going to hunt for someone who fit’s a specific description exactly then you are only going to end up disappointing yourself, you have to learn to understand that people will inevitably have traits that you perceive as faults and that you have faults in their eyes in the same way also. You can live your live looking for the perfect man though the chances of actually finding someone that ticks all the right boxes no matter where you look or how hard is extremely unlikely I think there is always going to be some trait you don’t like or some impracticality that gets in the way, I think you can only find the perfect man by changing yourself or what your perception of the perfect man is, trying to find someone to fill a very specific hole in your life is extremely difficult, I think the best way of doing it is to consider making yourself a little more flexible and forgiving of other peoples imperfections.



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 11:14:02 AM)

I have to agree MstrTiger and knowing you and your posts from other sites I know that you come across as a pretty sorted individual which i think I am too so yes, i think we are of similar mindsets. The Mr Perfect scenario is , I agree, almost a self-fulfilling failure so i agree with what you say and i don;t really think thats what i'm trying to do altho I do believe that there's nothing wrong in trying to find a person and a situation that you feel the most comfortable in - i have to say also that you can have some damn good fun, experiences and learning trying to find that ;-)

Again i gues my original post was just to see whether my thoughts on the subject were in line with others - do appreciate ur comments tho MstrTiger, sound like a cool guy



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 11:15:10 AM)

PS does anyone know how to change the 'vanilla' emoticon? have had a look round the boards and site and unless i'm being a bit dense can't find how to change it

;-)



mnottertail -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 11:15:45 AM)

click on the gold link about icecream at the bottom of my post



LotusSong -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 1:19:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

I'm aghast!!!  Forty-one is "older"???
 
John



Yes, but fear not, it get's younger the older you get :)



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 1:46:14 PM)

lol OK OK I realise that the 41 reference is not exactly 'older' in many people eyes - myself included. I think you must get the jist of what i was trying to ask tho huh?

and lotusSong - it definately does get younger the older you get ;-) :-P



MySweetSubmssive -> RE: Older gay subs (7/6/2007 11:54:12 PM)

I read your profile.  How does it support your search for a dominant to mention that you are willing/intereted in dominating others?  That piece seems extraneous as best, and sending mixed signals at worst.

Best,
MSS



rugbysub -> RE: Older gay subs (7/7/2007 3:43:31 AM)

don't think i intend to send mixed signal- i say that i still sometimes have a little dominant tendnacy but only with much yngr lads - if it makes me a switch then i suppose you may be right but it doesn't detract from my desire to be dominated by older Masters -does it?



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