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sub4hire -> RE: The Mystery Death of "Kurt Cobain" Still Haunts people (6/17/2005 7:45:22 AM)
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Anthony,
Is this the reason you asked the question in the first place?
"It's hard to believe that Cobain injected himself with an insane triple lethal dose of heroin, pulled the needle out of his arm, carefully put away that needle and the heroin paraphernalia neatly back into a cigar box a few feet away, rolled down and button his sleeves, then picked up a Remington 20-gauge shotgun , placed it in his mouth and discharged it. There does not seem to be another case in history in which anything close to this has ever occurred and many researchers feel it is simply impossible."
I started my career in the medical profession. I was an EMT-P. Essentially a paramedic.
Seen a lot of shit. A few suicides amoung acquaintances I knew. Most suicides used shotguns. Blows your head all the way off into the wall. It's a pretty nasty photo.
The drugs, well never under-estimate the power of them. What people think they will do to you they may not do.
For instance. While I was in school to be an EMT. I had an instructor who had won some award for tying people to the gurney. He used to say, "I'm teaching you my method and nobody can get up" True enough we could not...we all tried.
This was never going to be my career it was merely a stepping stone to my career. Although I did go to work for an ambulance company for about 6 month's. First day on the job..FIRST day. I was as cocky as he was with the tie down technique. After all he had been putting it in my head for month's. Picked up an OD. The guy was aware. Tied him down...etc. I was the patient dude...you always have a patient person and a driver on every ambulance.
The guy tells me he could get up. I said no, well no you cannot. Anyway I end up daring him. So, he sits up like he was not bound at all. This right after I had checked to be sure he was secure and loaded him into the ambulance. PIcked me up and threw me out the back doors of the ambulance as we just started to move.
Luckily I was very young. Resiliant. Anyway, the fact is...they don't know exactly what a drug will do. They only know what they have seen in the past. It doesn't mean it is going to affect you or me the same as their past cases.
They don't have rats they shoot up with heroin and then hand them a gun to know what really happens.
The gun would have fallen or maybe not since it ws a shotgun. Hard to tell on that. Would also depend on if he fell or part of him fell on the gun.
Yep, part of my classes were investigational as well. That's been a very long time ago...I'm a bit rusty on crime scene investigation.
How far was the gun away from him?
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