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masculine feminization - 7/5/2007 8:19:30 PM   
DagnyTaggart


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Status: offline 		Some of you like to used forced feminization for various reasons and one of those reasons can be humiliation. I really like the effect this has on a male sub- I like the emotional state it puts him in- but as a woman I'm a little insulted it works so well. I'm looking for a way to invoke the same results as feminization through playing up masculinity instead. In short, I'm looking for the opposite of femination that yields the same results. Have any of you had any success with this? I'd love to hear your thoughts, ideas, and maybe some stories too.
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RE: masculine feminization - 7/5/2007 8:51:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I love feminisation, particularly forced .. have no concerns re the clap trap it's insulting to women ... ayecrumba .. it's a dress not a frigging vagina ...
 
Had a fun session one day with a beloved client ... x dressed him ... then made him multi task ...

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/5/2007 9:13:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

I love feminisation, particularly forced .. have no concerns re the clap trap it's insulting to women ... ayecrumba .. it's a dress not a frigging vagina ... 
 
ok, I'm sorry- I guess I wasn't as clear as I could have been. I know there have been other threads about femnization and whether or not it is offensive or whatever but I'm not trying to re-open that discussion. Instead, I'm just looking for a different sort of tool if you will...I'm trying to put an entirely different spin on it.

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/6/2007 5:18:40 AM   
Zephyr46


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Status: offline 		So, I'm not clear about what you are asking about.
I view forced feminization as forcing a male to wear women's clothing for the erotic or humiliation issues it raises.

Are you looking at a twist on doing something like this with a male or are you exploring the possibilities of cross dressing a female in masculine clothing and hoping for the same erotic/humiliation effect?

If cross dressing a female in male clothing, then IMO this would not give the same result.  The precident has been set a long time ago. Daily, I see women dressed in men's clothing as part of their work, as a fashion statement, or simply because the lady wants to wear comfy clothing that is sometimes identified with the male. As an example, I even knew one lady who enjoyed wearing boxer shorts and "tighty whitey" briefs saying that they were more comfortable than hers and the cotton breathed lots better than the synthetic panties she wore. BTW she was vanilla in her outlook.

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/6/2007 6:08:46 AM   
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you want the play to be humiliation
you like the dress up thing but want to do something besides femme

hmmmm

how about dressing him up like a bird & tell him to fly.... then criticize him for his inability to do so

edited to add: in all honesty, you gotta figure out what his triggers are... just because one man responds to crossdressing doesn't mean all men will & just because he responds in this particular way that you wish to duplicate yet under different circumstances defined by you.... doesn't mean he will.

People are triggered by a plethora of specifics & situations. That's the art of top/dominant... to identify those triggers & buttons & knowing the how, when, where & WHY to push them.

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/6/2007 6:48:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the feminization theme that works is inadequacy, "What an ugly and incompetent woman you make," then he's an ugly and incompetent man, or an ugly and incompetent something else. Even if he's attractive and competent by popular standards, he's likely insecure about something. Find out what it is and poke at it. Make him do tasks he's not good at, or simply tedious tasks. If you want the tasks to be stereotypically masculine, make him build something, or answer sports trivia questions. (This generally works better if he's all thumbs and not too sporty.) Lifting stuff and then criticizing his strength is good, too. You can do a diatribe about his being a bad provider--that's too close to home for some people, but sometimes playing on very real fears is desired. If looking goofy or unattractive is part of it, there are lots of ways for men to look goofy. Those elephant-shaped thongs might be a good place to start.

If the feminization theme that works is one of wantonness and sluttiness, surely men can be wanton and anxious about it, too. Emphasizing his dependence on you for sexual relief might be good here. Chippendales garb, perhaps, or sexy menswear--I have a certain affection for boxer briefs. Many men are ashamed of their desires for anal penetration--even non-submissives. If he likes being penetrated anally, that may be a good direction.

If it's just being forced, or obeying--well, you can force someone to do tons of stuff. Eating a disliked food is fun. Exhibitionism, too.

Essentially, I've identified a few paths of triggers--reasons or ways that forced femme might be effective in your relationship. If you don't like doing a particular activity, but you like the results from it and want to get them a different way, I think you need to identify what it is about the disliked actiity that causes the desired result, and then brainstorm other activities that do the same thing.

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/6/2007 7:05:06 PM   
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RE: masculine feminization - 7/6/2007 7:20:01 PM   
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Make him wear sports kit like a manly sporty man and then take him outside and set about trying to teach him how to throw a ball like a girl hehehe. I am not sure really, it appears to be a difficult one for people to get their heads around given the number of people who seam to have no idea what it is you are trying to get with your question.

I think playing on a slaves masculinity could be extremely stimulating for you, and also him though I am not sure if I can come up with any good practical suggestions of how to go about doing it. I do enjoy humiliating very masculine muscular slaves myself, I find it highly amusing, and it is very rare the dressing them up as women approach comes into it, perhaps you could train a strong masculine slave to be your muscular horse, rather than your sissy bitch I think verbal and mental imagery will play an important part in trying to work on the men in question.

I generally do play up to a male slaves strengths rather than trying to sissify them frankly that is generally not my thing, perhaps you might get some good info from other gay doms since I get the impression they don’t go in much for the sissyfication approach also. I had not really paid much attention to how much I do exploit a slaves masculinity I think I will have to think about it a lot more, you have asked a good question and I am sorry I cant really put my thoughts down in a slightly more coherent and productive way at the moment.

I think you have accurately put your finger on the point of difference between how gay men dominate men and how straight women dominate men, I am not sure how much of what I do to humiliate a man can cross over and be used by you given that you are, of course a woman.

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/7/2007 1:52:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		i see you have gotten many ideas here . i will say  as a  very masuculine male subbmisve i enjoy and loveing wearing panties and other females thigns how ever i do not pass nor seek too pass as female not sure this is what or that you are seeking but as i read your posting this is what came too my mind  keep him as male but  have him wearing females things kinda like  a man in a dress or  panties and bra .even wear thes itemas under male clothes or around his friends and they do know reminding  him hes wearing them for you or for i his own good too keep him in line . and hes wearing these to remind him he is owned by you ...or how about if hes married or has a gril friedn make him wear hers and the next time he see her in them it will remind him of when he worn them or have him jealous that she has them back on not him?

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/9/2007 7:41:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DagnyTaggart

Some of you like to used forced feminization for various reasons and one of those reasons can be humiliation.I'm looking for a way to invoke the same results as feminization through playing up masculinity instead.


You're asking how to humiliate a man by making him dress in a masculine fashion?

How about dressing him up like a cowboy or one of the other Village People and sending him in to a gay leather bar singing "Macho Man" at the top of his lungs?

Better yet, send him in wearing chaps, with his ass hanging out, glue Austin Powers-like chest hair on him (driving the gay boys wild) and then send him in.  The gay boys will be like bees around honey around his ass cheek, and he'll come out with dozens of bruises from all the pinching.

Is that what you mean? 

(Disclaimer: No offense meant to any gays here.)

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RE: masculine feminization - 7/16/2007 11:18:18 PM   
DagnyTaggart


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ORIGINAL: DSwriter

Better yet, send him in wearing chaps, with his ass hanging out, glue Austin Powers-like chest hair on him (driving the gay boys wild) and then send him in.  The gay boys will be like bees around honey around his ass cheek, and he'll come out with dozens of bruises from all the pinching.



That isn't what I meant but it is SOOOOO much better! I won't even bother to warn him about bears, cubs, chubs, or chasers.

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