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GhostWhoWalks -> sub-space defined (7/6/2007 12:14:30 PM)

  Here's the definition of sub-space, courtesy of linear algebra; http://www.agolda.com/Linear_Algebra/Vector_Space.html

I've copied part of the explaination below.
(Er..if any of you subs get hot when someone whispers math
   equations to you, let me know. I'm pretty sure that's a new kink, and I wanna get my name in the history books. [:D])
Definition 29: Let V be a Real vector space and let a set B of vectors in V be a basis of V. To keep things simple [in terms of the Set Theory] we assume that V is such that the set B is finite or countable infinite. Hence B={u1,u2,...} [this list might end or might not but in either case it is countable]. Then [see fact 22] every vector v of V can be represented as:
v=a1·u1+a2·u2+...
where the Real numbers a1,a2,... are unique and only finite amount of them is non-zero.
The Real numbers a1,a2,... are called the coordinates of the vector v with respect to the basis B
We also write: v=[a1,a2,...]B
Thus, with respect to some selected and then fixed basis B of V, the vector space V becomes either:
Rn if the dimension of V is n [so B has exactly n vectors in it];
R¥ if the dimension of V is À0 [so B has exactly À0 vectors in it];
Since there are some complications with infinite dimensional Real vector spaces which arise from Set-Theoretic properties of infinite sets we will restrict our attention to the finite dimensional Vector spaces only. In section 5 we will demonstrate one property of infinite dimensional Real vector spaces which makes them different from finite dimensional Real vector spaces and thus makes them a very hard object to work with.
Example 30: [See examples 31 & 33 in section 1 and example 04 in this section] Let U be the vector space of all ordered triples of Real numbers [x,y,z] such that x+y+z=0 (so z=-x-y).

Let B be the set {[1,0,-1], [0,1,-1]} of vectors in U (check that these vectors are in U !). Vectors of B are linearly independent (check it !).
Every vector [x,y,z] in U is given by:
[x,y,z]=[x,y,-x-y]=[x,0,-x]+[0,y,-y]=x·[1,0,-1]+y·[0,1,-1]
Hence B is a basis of U and
[x,y,z]=[x,y]B

Let C be the set {[1,1,-2], [2,3,-5]} of vectors in U (check that these vectors are in U !). Vectors of C are linearly independent (check it !).
Every vector [x,y,z] in U is given by:
[x,y,z]=[x,y,-x-y]=[3x-2y,3x-2y,-6x+4y]+[2y-2x,3y-3x,-5y+5x]=
=[(3x-2y),(3x-2y),-2(3x-2y)]+[2(y-x),3(y-x),-5(y-x)]=(3x-2y)·[1,1,-2]+(y-x)·[2,3,-5]
Hence C is also a basis of U and
[x,y,z]=[(3x-2y),(y-x)]C
In both cases once we have selected some basis of U and we calculate every vector with respect to this selected basis U becomes just R2 [with respect to the selected basis].
But selecting a different basis will produce a different representation of U as R2 [the same vector v of U has different coordinates with respect to different selected bases] !!!
In order to understand better how the coordinates of vectors in a Real vector space change with the change of the selected bases in that space consider the following 1-dimensional example which will make things clear:




MasterFireMaam -> RE: sub-space defined (7/6/2007 1:13:44 PM)

Damn. And I thought kink was Complex...and here, clearly, it is Real.

Master Fire




MagiksSlave -> RE: sub-space defined (7/7/2007 10:40:33 AM)

((giggles))
OHHH the math it buuurrrnnnsss!!!

Magik's slave




CrimsonMoan -> RE: sub-space defined (7/7/2007 11:10:19 AM)

i think my brain short circuited




CuriousLord -> RE: sub-space defined (8/5/2007 9:38:17 AM)

Trust me, this stuff's a lot easier than it looks.  Most of my class passed with an A when we took it.

You do it after Calculus III and Differential Equations.  By the time you're done with those courses, you practically laugh at this stuff.  (We actually did.  Every time we got a break.  Abstract Algerbra is a different case, though.)




Joseff -> RE: sub-space defined (8/5/2007 12:08:17 PM)

I think Hawking said it better.
Joseff




CuriousLord -> RE: sub-space defined (8/6/2007 2:31:42 AM)

Said what better?




nyrisa -> RE: sub-space defined (8/6/2007 4:37:54 AM)

"People who post in math metaphors should shampoo my crotch."

(quote semi stolen from Jack Nicholson)

Sorry, could not resist. *smiles*




hejira92 -> RE: sub-space defined (8/6/2007 9:00:36 AM)

Oooooh! Math turns me on! Formulas! Equations! Moles! (Oops- lasped into chemisty there..)
 
I think it harkens back to my early exposure to Tom Lehrer.
 
 
(must stop posting on pain meds......)




NovelApproach -> RE: sub-space defined (8/6/2007 6:50:07 PM)

Ooh, yes, talk nerdy to me, baby!  [;)]




ohbiguy32 -> RE: sub-space defined (8/6/2007 8:05:42 PM)

Tom Lehrer is sooo hhhhooootttt




Darkmike -> RE: sub-space defined (8/9/2007 10:35:24 PM)

This is easy, try working out superstring theory in Base 3 Maths.


MMM, Superstring Bondage, tasty.




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