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kisertn -> Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/7/2007 3:10:26 PM)

I have managed to peak my significant other's attention in domination and now she is looking for apparel that will help her to get into the role.  

We live in Aurora, Illinois - near Chicago, but are unaware of any places in the region that would cater to us.  I imagine there probably are places, but so far we have had no luck in locating them.  If anyone know of any places in our area, we would love to hear of them.

So, that leaves us with on-line.  We have spent the better part of the day performing search after search and we have, as yet, not found a site that:  had what we wanted, was located in the U.S. (in case of returns), had a good site where we could see clearly what we were purchasing, and that gave us a good feeling that we understood the sizing.

My significant other has a very thin waist, and broad hips, so we are concerned about getting the sizing right in order to avoid returns.

But, the main thing I would say is that we just have not seen a good selection of clothing.  Might any of you either have recommendations or be able to point me to a list of recommendations?

Thanks!




ArtificerOfKink -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/7/2007 4:56:57 PM)

www.northbound.com is pricy but I can attest to the amazing quality of the items.  (they are local to me and I've been to their store several times and looked through many things).




MistressAsher -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/7/2007 11:02:54 PM)

http://www.mistressasher.com/

size chart
http://www.mistressasher.com/sizes.php




kisertn -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 5:37:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ArtificerOfKink

www.northbound.com is pricy but I can attest to the amazing quality of the items.  (they are local to me and I've been to their store several times and looked through many things).


hmmm...  I haven't been able to get the northbound site to come up since yesterday afternoon when I saw your post.   Is the URL correct?   www.northbound.com  ?




DianeB269 -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 5:41:05 AM)

I've had very good luck with www.stormyleather.com



Diane




ArtificerOfKink -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 8:44:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kisertn

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ORIGINAL: ArtificerOfKink

www.northbound.com is pricy but I can attest to the amazing quality of the items.  (they are local to me and I've been to their store several times and looked through many things).


hmmm...  I haven't been able to get the northbound site to come up since yesterday afternoon when I saw your post.   Is the URL correct?   www.northbound.com  ?


Hmm, the URL is correct.  Their site must be down.  Check back later.




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 9:50:22 AM)

Depending on how much you want to spend, and what you want to buy, Hot Topic/Torrid are great places to find fetishy wear. North Bound Leather, Stormy Leather, Madame S Leather all have HIGH quality (higher priced) items. I believe North Bound is in Canada, but Stormy Leather and Madame S are in the United States.

What items are you looking for in particular? I personally have purchased boots and latex from E-bay, sexy tops from Hot Topic, local lingerie shops, and at random websites I encountered online, and specific items by saying "I want a pair of fishnet pants, where can I buy these?" and waiting for responses.

What is Domme apparel to you? If it's leather corsets, I can recommend a great e-bay shop, same with thigh high boots.

~E




kisertn -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 10:37:00 AM)

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What items are you looking for in particular? I personally have purchased boots and latex from E-bay, sexy tops from Hot Topic, local lingerie shops, and at random websites I encountered online, and specific items by saying "I want a pair of fishnet pants, where can I buy these?" and waiting for responses.

What is Domme apparel to you? If it's leather corsets, I can recommend a great e-bay shop, same with thigh high boots.


That's a good question.  What she is after is something that helps promote the commanding role.  In real life, I would say that I tend to be the more domineering of the two of us.  So, I think she's looking for that piece(s) of attire that when she slips into them, she takes on a feeling of authority.  Now, having said that, I know it doesn't help much - but at least that sets the stage for what I am about to say.

She's not exactly sure what she wants.  After hours of searching online with her, these are the facts as I understand them:

  • she wants something she can get on and off relatively easily.
  • she was interested in wearing something where she could offer up access to various areas of her body for me to pleasure ,without having to remove the entire garment  (for example, at one point we were watching the end of the movie Fashionistas and she saw the long latex(?) dresses that were wearing and she noticed that they were dual zippers - allowing her to zip up from the bottom and down from cleavage.
  • at one point she did not seem interested in long sleeves.   But then later we saw a corset that had, as an option, matching glove-like things  (they didn't cover her fingers - but they did cover the forearm up to mid-bicep).
  • Most of time she seemed to be focused on bustiers and skirts
  • Here biggest problem is that she has a 28" waist and 42" hips.  So, getting a single outfit, like a dress, is risky in that she either orders somethign that fits her upstairs but not downstairs - or that fits downstairs and is too big upstairs.

As for cost, well, we all want it free - but I want her to get one outfit (to begin with) that when she slips it on gives her that feeling she is seeking.  She did like the dresses we saw in Fashionistas, and she did like some of the skirts and bustiers she has seen, and some of the corsets.    But, most of the sites are not giving us enough information to feel comfortable about quality or size.

We've looked at some of the latex and PVC and we wonder just how it feels when you put it on.   The leather ones I imagine would give a better sense, perhaps, of the kind of feeling she is after.  Kind of like a biker slipping on his leather jacket to use an example.

Bottom line is that this is her first outfit, and we just don't want to make a mistake.  We're willing to spend $$ (up to $500 if need be) for the "anchor" piece.   But, if we can piut together something better for less, that would be good too!  :)

-Neil




kisertn -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 10:41:17 AM)

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What is Domme apparel to you? If it's leather corsets, I can recommend a great e-bay shop, same with thigh high boots.


As for boots, she would love a pair - but she has large calves and she has had trouble finding boots where the material would go over the calves.   But we wondered if the boots (the upper part) were made of latex or PVC if it would stretch over her calves more easily than leather.




MisstressNboytoy -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 2:48:13 PM)

Elorin, can you share the names of the ebay stores that you had success with? (Or anyone else who knows of good stores on ebay.) I know you can get some really great deals there.




Lashra -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/8/2007 7:20:55 PM)

http://stores.ebay.com/ALTER-EGO-EROTICS

This store is on Ebay and she has an excellent selection of corsets, as well as skirts and some dresses. Her prices are fantastic, great quality and excellent customer service. I buy all my corsets from her.

~Lashra




chellekitty -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 7:35:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kisertn

As for boots, she would love a pair - but she has large calves and she has had trouble finding boots where the material would go over the calves.   But we wondered if the boots (the upper part) were made of latex or PVC if it would stretch over her calves more easily than leather.


i have found random success with finding boots at Torrid (a plus sized offshoot of Hot Topic) that fit large calves...i check in every so often to see what they have....i once found a pair of laced 3 inch heeled knee high boots for like $40 or 50...obviously at this price they are not real leather, but until you can buy those custom made boots (which can cost you more than $500 by themselves)...they work...




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 1:03:46 PM)

On boots:

My problem with boots in the past was having very slender legs, so I always bought a pair of boots and ended up getting them custom altered to be skin tight on my legs. Now that I have gained some weight, the custom fit boots don't fit anymore but I can buy them off of the rack.
My advice on buying boots is to take the time to e-mail the website and simply ask for detailed measurements. Measuring your ankles, widest point of your calf, above and below your knee, and the thigh where you want the boot to come to, in combination with how far they are from the sole will have you ready with the questions you want answered. I.E. Calf at widest point, 12" high, 18" around. Something like that.
Boots are most likely going to be the anchor piece you are looking for that are easy on, easy off that give a feeling of power and control almost immediately.
The e-bay shop I recommend most for boots is Bob and Angie:
http://stores.ebay.com/Sensual-Leathers-by-Bobandangie_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm
They have been on ebay since 1998, are a BDSM lifestyle couple, and their specialty is thigh high boots. They also carry fetish heels and some accessories (chains for boots, socks and hosiery) but their primary line is thigh high boots and fetish shoes.
If you don't find what you like there, go to e-bay, use the women's shoe search finder, and basically be willing to ask as many questions as you need to ask before buying. (Ebay woman's shoe search finder at the left hand side here: http://clothing.search.ebay.com/womens-shoes_Womens-Shoes_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC11QQfromZR40QQsacatZ63889QQsatitleZwomenQ27sQ20shoes)

I do have other shoe shops online bookmarked but Bob and Angie are the only vendor I return to regularly. The rest of them I just come across when I'm searching for a particular shoe or boot.

www.hottopic.com is the website for the chain of stores found in malls across the country, and www.torrid.com is their "big sister" site with items geared towards plus sized women. You can find Torrid stores in person but they aren't as common in my experience as Hot Topic. Torrid does NOT carry cookie cutter items of Hot Topic, just in larger sizes. In fact they carry items that are cut to flatter the larger figure, and I've been to the local Torrid and wondered "why don't they make this in MYYYY size!" like a whiny lil girl sometimes. ~laughs~ Both Hot Topic and Torrid carry some great shoes and boots, and they have a 50% off the lowest clearance price sale about 4 times a year when you can get GREAT deals.

If you are willing to do a bit more work, a pair of boots that are too small in the calf can have the seam opened, then add rivets and some ribbon or leather lacing for a sexier, edgier look that also adds inches to the area that is too small. Not an option for someone who wants an "off the shelf" item though.

I recommend finding the local stripper supply store to try on some of the boots they have there, and learn which lines of shoes make boots that fit your calf. Then go online with that brand name and search for items that tickle your fancy. If you can find a vendor who will take out a tape measure and send you max and min measurements, all the better - less likelihood of returning it.
Also, boots that lace up aren't as likely to be too small for your calf, though they take more work to put on.




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 1:10:04 PM)

On bustiers/waist cinchers:

Bustiers are quick and easy. Shop Hot Topic and Torrid, lingerie shops in your local area and lingerie shops online, the local stripper supply shop, and e-bay for them. You can buy things called corsets at Victoria's Secreat and similar lingerie shops that have hook and eye setups so that you can set the laces to one place and put it on and off easily, but they are all about the way they look and not about the cinching tight hug of a corset. I call those lingerie corsets or a bustier. Measure distance from top of shoulder, and then across, so you know what questions to ask if you want to know if it fits. If your wife is small waisted but big in the hip, you'll want shorter bustiers and/or you'll want waist cinchers.  (I have a long torso, and the difference in hip and waist is small, so I go for a longer corset or bustier to cover my belly. Ones that end at the narrowest point of my waist tend to emphasize my stomach which right now is very bad for me.)

Another thing to consider is an open cup bra or teddy from Fredericks of Hollywood. Open cup bras give lift and support but leave the nipples open for access. If it's a teddy, a crotchless teddy leaves you open access there, and a skirt over it means only you and your sub know where you are open. Lingerie isn't always fetishy, but adding a wide leather belt, a waist cincher, or a pair of thigh high boots and you may find you have the easy on/easy off, body accessible outfit with a touch of fetish that you are looking for. Open cup bra with crotchless panty set is something you could buy one piece at a time so that both pieces fit, without worrying about the bust/waist/hip ratio issue. (My partner/dom just discovered open cup bras and fell in absolutely love with the fact that it doensn't hurt me to be active and bouncy, and he can still get to my nipples at all times.)

www.fredericks.com or search e-bay for open cup bra or open cup teddy




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 1:12:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisertn
As for boots, she would love a pair - but she has large calves and she has had trouble finding boots where the material would go over the calves.   But we wondered if the boots (the upper part) were made of latex or PVC if it would stretch over her calves more easily than leather.

Latex has a lot of stretch, PVC has moderate stretch, but it is immediate. Leather has minimal stretch but it does take time for the leather to warm and stretch out, so if you can get your leg into it, wait about 20 minutes and once it's warmed up it may loosen some.

I have a great pair of boots that were sold as "latex look" that lace up the back of the leg. Manmade material, not latex, PVC, ~or~ leather, but they are sexy stretchy and are skin tight. (They weren't when I bought them but I was able to alter them with the sewing machine and they became so. And because of the laces, after I gained weight I can still wear them skintight, just a bit more skin shows behind the laces.)




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 2:44:29 PM)

On corsets:
Corsets are not normally a quick item to put on. If you go for a corset that you can lace tightly and feel like your waist has been pulled in an inch or two, you need to buy ones with steel boning, busks, and that tighten from the middle, not from the top or bottom. However, the ritual of putting on a corset - loosening the laces, hooking the busks, tightening the laces, watching your breasts rise and your waist cinch in the process, methodically donning this outfit made of a material that makes you feel divine and in control and in power - that can certainly be empowering. If a sub is helping me don a corset, I often feel very dominant after the process is over. Especially if the sub then helps me into my boots, kisses the toes of my boots, and thanks me for the privilege afterwards. If M is helping me into a corset, I find myself flying into subspace with each tightening of the laces, and all i want afterwards is to fall to the ground and lick his boots. So items of clothing can all be about mindset as you put them on.

Having said that, the link Lashra provided is an EXCELLENT site for leather corsets. The corsets are sized from itsy bitsy all the way to something like 6X or 7X. The woman is very good about answering e-mail questions (give her time as she's a busy lady), and I have 6 of her corsets (5 overbust, one underbust) and one of her corset dresses in my closet. Leather corsets are great because they do loosen as the leather warms and stretches,  which means you can get a break from the tightness, or you
can have a recurring ritual of having your sub tighten your laces once each time interval (20 minutes, hour, etc).

For fabric/tapestry corsets, especially of the Victorian/Elizabethan style I recommend looking for SCA/Renn faire websites.

When you buy a corset, you will get what you pay for. If you are paying 50 bucks, you will probably get "off the rack" sizing rather than something sized to your body, hooks and eyes instead of steel busks, plastic rather than steel boning, lightweight manmade materials and/or stretch fabrics or PVC rather than latex or leather, and something whose stitching will fall out after a year or so of use. If you pay 300 dollars or more for a corset, you're going to be looking at steel busks, custom sizing to your body, steel boning, heavy duty tapestry fabric, leather, or latex, and something that should last a few years. Obviously I can't guarantee quality, but finding an established corset maker will more likely end up giving you the high end item than the low end.

My wardrobe currently has both SCA/Renn faire corsets (over and underbust), a renn faire "bodice", fabric bustiers from Hot Topic, a stretch lingerie "corset" from Victoria's Secret, leather corsets from Alter Ego Erotics, a PVC custom made corset from a local corset maker, an off the rack waist cincher from the same local corset maker, two fabric corsets that are underbust, busked in front and lace up back, a fabric overbust corset that is hook and eye with lace up back, and a myriad of PVC tops, halters, bustiers and teddys that have been bought online, at local lingerie shops, and at Good Will.




kisertn -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 3:36:34 PM)

Thank you very much Elorin for taking the time ot prepare such thourogh responses.  I'll definitely look into Bob and Angie's website.  I agree that a pair of boots can be the "anchor" piece.

I also was able to reach the Northbound site today and they definitely have some nice pieces.

Your comment about price/quality has also been on my mind.  I am seeing sites where they have corsets for $100-$150 and I just have to wonder about the quality of what I am getting.  Sometimes, I am ok with paying less and getting less.  But, in this case, I think I'd prefer to search out perfect, high-quality pieces.  We do not "live" the lifestyle, but rather visit it for playtime - so rather than try to populate a wardrobe for constant use, I see us acquiring a few key pieces, like quality boots, corset perhaps - and then just accenting as the opportunity presents itself (like with gloves, jacket, skirt, etc.).

I really do appreciate all of the responses.  I'm still trying to locate a local store so she can try things on, but at least now we're seeing the kind of quality pieces I knew must be out there!

BTW, we have no latex or PVC clothing - how does it hold up?  I think leather is what we want - I think putting it on, the weight of it, the sturdiness of it, the smell of it - all will add to the roleplay for her.  She's a quasi-timid person, with a domme buried inside  :)   I want her to have what she needs to bring it out!  lol

Thanks again,
-Neil




roughleather -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 4:00:45 PM)

In Chicago, there's Black Market Chicago. But they're not as big as they used to be. They used to have a sizable retail store, but it closed in 2004.

Madame S in SF can help out. Call their retail store, which is a real place, and discuss what you want. The staff is kinkier than you are.




Elorin -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/9/2007 5:43:47 PM)

kisertn
Thank you for the note. I hope my responses have helped at least a bit.
It sounds to me that you would benefit from a good pair of boots and a good underbust corset or waist cincher. Then you can make myriad outfits, suitable for "just the bedroom", "an intimate party with friends", or "out on the town" depending on what you add to it.
Examples. Same pair of boots and corset in all examples.
1) Boots, hose, leather pencil skirt, white long sleeved button down blouse, pushup bra, corset. Unbutton the top button or two of the blouse - hints of cleavage but that's all. Cover it with a blazer or trench coat. Slightly edgy, but can be worn to the mall without too many heads blinking. You both know whether she has on panties or not, a garter belt or not, but no one else knows.
2) Boots, thigh high stockings or fishnets, a micro mini skirt. Same button down blouse and pushup bra, but unbutton all buttons that show above the corset. You can see cleavage and you can see the fabric the bra is made of, but that is all you can see. Add a shrug (sleeves and it barely covers the shoulders) or not as you choose or the weather dictates. Maybe a trench coat goes well with it. You are hot to trot, sexy for a night club. You wouldn't go to the mall, but she could go with panties or not as you choose. The tops of her garter belt show from time to time when she sits and crosses her legs.
3) Boots. Thigh high stockings. Garter belt. Corset. Bra. Black leather gloves.  Your lady is ready for a play party among friends, or a bedroom night of play with you. Panties are optional, or can be crotchless. She is covered enough to say "no no no" when you want access to her, but "uncovered" enough to be completely sexy and droo-licious.
4) Boots. Corset. Nothing else but the toybag. She is out to have you and make you have her at her pleasure.

When you see moderately priced corsets out there, ask the following questions.
1) Is this custom made or mass manufactured? (Leg Avenue is a great company that makes lingerie, and you can expect moderate quality, but don't look for a piece from them to last through hard wear and tear for more than about 9 months, and through moderate wear and tear for more than 2 years.)
2) If custom made, what material are you using to make the corset? May I get a fabric swatch in the mail before I buy? The sturdiness of the fabric will tell you a lot about the quality of a corset. If you want the corset to "tight lace" i.e. actually take inches off of the waist, a stretch fabric is normally not going to do the job.
3) Does the corset have plastic or steel boning? Steel boning is a higher quality, and the more bones in the corset the higher quality.
4) Does the corset have hook and eyes (these will pull out if you cinch the corset too much) or a metal busk? Hook and eyes are cheaper and will not lend themselves to tight lacing. A metal busk is sturdy and will give you the ability to put the corset on and off without unlacing it entirely.
---Note: Some corsets are made with nothing but laces. They are either solid across the front with laces in the back, solid across the back with laces in the front, or have laces in both front and back and/or at the sides. In this case you won't have to ask about hook and eye or busk closure.For that matter, ask how many sets of laces there are. Rivet setting is hard work, and a corset with 3 sets of laces is going to be pricier than one with one set of laces.
5) Are the corsets made to a "rack" size (i.e. 25", 28", etc) or is each item custom fit to all of your measurements? Custom fit is more expensive. I personally can wear most "off the rack" sizings, but not everyone can.




kisertn -> RE: Best on-line locations for domme apparel? (7/10/2007 10:48:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Elorin

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Having said that, the link Lashra provided is an EXCELLENT site for leather corsets.  <snipped>...

... If you are paying 50 bucks, you will probably get "off the rack" sizing rather than something sized to your body, hooks and eyes instead of steel busks, plastic rather than steel boning, lightweight manmade materials and/or stretch fabrics or PVC rather than latex or leather, and something whose stitching will fall out after a year or so of use. If you pay 300 dollars or more for a corset, you're going to be looking at steel busks, custom sizing to your body, steel boning, heavy duty tapestry fabric, leather, or latex, and something that should last a few years. ...

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I am a little confused.  I went to Alter Ego Erotics - but I am seeing that their corsets are running from ~$70-$150.  But you seem to be saying that I need to be looking at $300 on up if I want a quality item.  Is Alter Ego Erotics an exception to that rule?  Or do they just fill a middle niche between the two extremes?  Or maybe I just am not seeing her more expensive offerings, but I looked and all I saw were in the price range I listed above.




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