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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 7:26:59 AM   
CrimsonMoan


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Status: offline 		Ok since my home town and home state were roped in have to bring my two cents in. AS to why there are Brothels in Northern Nevada and not las vegas talk to the voters, the men witht he money and the legislators. Two about 3 miles are so from the strip headed down toward the  'Nawlins Casion is whats refered to as the track. The street gals walk up and down the track day and night cold or hot. Its a pain in the ass becuase it does get cold in vegas. As for Escort hanging out in the casinos....they do. You just don't know it unless you are looking for it. Case in point the a few of the popular night clubs are open tuesdays and wednesday, now your average person doesn't start partyign til thursday at the earliest.

The night clubs are filled with businessmen intown for work looking for some company. The only girls in there tend to be working girls. same also recognizes same and when I did do this in my college free time i ran into several other girls who didn't stand out but we still looked and knew what the other was there for.

Escorts can be seen in a hotel casion comming at any time. why aren't they stopped? Because unless an outside party or a cop know for 100% sure that what they are/were up to they can't be hauled in. Men stand on the streets handing out flyers for the escort angecies they work for. The angencies are some of the biggest scams if you are a newbie. That 99$ you spent to get those two girls there is not all you have to pay. You just paid to have the girls show up. Not for their services. Dependign on who you work for you may have to hand over 5-15 % of what you made in that hour.

IMO if you only made so much and then have to fork over more its just a way to make them richer and you to have to work more. this is why so many ads in the phonebook (yes there are escort ads in the vegas phones book) weekly papers etc that say not an agency. You make mor emoney set your own hours, but then you are responsible for your own saftey finding your own driver etc. But you also don't have to deal with the interpersonal of bullshit between other girls just because they don't like you.

Legalize it taxes it but make it a flat tax cuz it them not you out there dealing with guys who wouldn't get any elsewise.


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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 7:27:25 AM   
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Somebody pointed out that as long as there is a demand there will be a supply.

Legalize, regulate, provide a safe working environment, remove the social stigma, and life will improve for everybody.

I posted elsewhere about a doctor in India who successfully unionized sex workers in India.

Got a big thumbs up from me for doing so.

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 7:33:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Prostitution is not illegal here only in the UK only soliciting for it is. I’ve never been sure what the distinction between the two is though. I suppose offering sex for money is ok but asking for sex for money isn’t.

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 8:38:06 AM   
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 9:20:19 AM   
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Legalize drugs and prostitution and we could stop filling up the jails while making society safer.


Hm, but what about asset forfeitures? In a number of municipalities, police conduct sting operations using an undercover cop acting as a streetwalker. If you drive up to the curb and attempt to conduct a transaction with her, you've just used your auto in the commission of a crime- which means it is confiscated, sold at auction, and the proceeds go to the city. Same for drug sales. Kaching!

And if you were a cop, would you rather spend a bunch of time trying to hunt up some violent criminal who's probably armed and too terribly excited about returning to prison, or rounding up blase whores who see it as a cost of doing business?

Won't somebody please think of the bureaucrats?


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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 9:35:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

The idea of legalising prostitution is so sensible that it is unlikely to come about soon. IMO

Having said that many of the women who provide the service seem to be in a somewhat precarious mental state. NO? 


Seeks:
In Nevada we have 34 licensed butt huts...they know me by my first name in 32 of them....I have not noticed a higher level of precarious mental states there than in the public at large.
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 9:39:50 AM   
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I'm not an advocate of legal prostitution, but I do think that if it is ever done that it should be implemented with a kind of legal zone. Boston has something unofficial like this in the area known as Red Square. The police pretty much ignore prostitutes so long as they stay in that one square block area. Outside Red Square they will be arrested and charged. I like the legal zone idea because people would go into that zone knowing what to expect and probably looking for it. In this way you could avoid having prostitutes hanging around outside schools or churches or playgrounds. The one thing I have never understood is Nevada. Seems like Vegas ought to be the legal zone and the rest of the state illegal. I suppose they were trying to keep vice and gambling separated so the Mafia types of early Vegas couldn't take over the entire town. It just seems as though places like Vegas or Atlantic City, maybe even Miami, would serve as good legal zones, but definitely not Orlando. Who wants Cinderella asking their kid of he would like an Around the World?


HaveRopeWillBind:
I have no idea how to respond to someone who is against legal prostitution but in favor of illegal prostitution.
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 9:46:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I have not noticed a higher level of precarious mental states there than in the public at large.
thompson


Good point. And in Vegas..no Nevad as a while there are plenty of women who need a good head shrink

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 9:50:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's legal here in Amsterdam and I live 2 minutes away from two brothels and the red light area where women sit and advertise themselves in their window every night. I just don't see a problem with prostitution being legal, everything is on the surface and can be monitored by the authorities. It's not problem free but hey, life isn't either.

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 10:10:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
The idea of legalising prostitution is so sensible that it is unlikely to come about soon. IMO
Having said that many of the women who provide the service seem to be in a somewhat precarious mental state. NO? 


Seeks:
In Nevada we have 34 licensed butt huts...they know me by my first name in 32 of them....I have not noticed a higher level of precarious mental states there than in the public at large.
thompson


Well MrT I wonder. Watching a series of TV programmes about the legalised brothels in Nevada led me to conclude that not all but many of the the women  were very close to the edge and unstable. Just my interpretation. For instance the girls appeared "hyper" and overly self conscious trying to prove how "happy" they were followed by sudden flare ups and tantrums.
They would frequently indulge in sentimental unrealistic ramblings about how their life would change if they could meet the "right" man or made a target amount of money.

I agree many non sex workers are like that also.IMO its a sure sign that all is not well.

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 10:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		if you are gonna base your op off tv then watch the Cat House on HBO. Cat House is filme dinside of the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 10:17:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

if you are gonna base your op off tv then watch the Cat House on HBO. Cat House is filme dinside of the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.


CrimsonMoan:
Yeah that's the one I got laughed out of.
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 10:41:26 AM   
CrimsonMoan


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Status: offline 		now see that just makes me want to ask how? if its a sore issue i understand, but damn how do you get laughed out of a brothel?

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 10:58:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		If it was legalized, I'd only agree with it if we put the full force the law behind the legalization AND the protection of workers. But we won't. I know that. What will happen is that cartels of women traders will start becoming the owners of most brothel establishments, and they will control it with a mafia-like intensity. Then they'll hire lobbyists who make it so that in order to become part of the prostitution corps, you have to join the Prostitution Union, which will, of course, be controlled by the same people that lobbied to make it more controlled. In the end, you'd have government mandated and sanctioned forced prostitution that even the police couldn't, and wouldn't, stop.

People don't realize it, and they fool themselves into believing otherwise, but Americans aren't exactly experts at treating other Americans kindly. We use and manipulate people and then pretend that it doesn't happen. If we can't find a foreign labor pool (which we use now, especially in the prostitution area), then we'll have people in this country actually create and maintain that pool from within. We're really good at having hand-holding sit-ins about how Wal-Mart is oppressing the workers, yet keep shopping there as we get hungry during our sit-in. We don't see a problem with this.

So, when women start becoming "owned" by these cartels (I'm assuming the Eastern European ones are just vying for the opportunity to make this happen), people won't do a thing about it, and they'll justify their inaction because we "made it legal."


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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 11:03:17 AM   
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 11:09:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

now see that just makes me want to ask how? if its a sore issue i understand, but damn how do you get laughed out of a brothel?


CrimsonMoan:
At the time they touted that they only employed porn stars as hookers.  I mean hawt dayum they were really pretty, but totally out of my price range.  On the up side, across the street and due east about a quarter mile, turn right and follow the road to the end of the cul d'sac,there are four more butt huts that are more reasonably priced.
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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 11:23:49 AM   
CrimsonMoan


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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 12:04:21 PM   
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I have a buddy who is a brothel inspector (health department) in Neveda.  The ones working in the houses are far cleaner than the ones on the street or Craigslist.

Legalize drugs and prostitution and we could stop filling up the jails while making society safer.


(And a whole lot less horny)

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 1:37:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Prostitution -is- legal. Haven't you seen a "Pro Domme" before? :P

Still, I'm very much for the "let live" sort of attitude. If someone wants to pay $10 for a blowjob, I really don't give a damn and feel law enforcement shouldn't, either. STD's are an issue, but, if you don't want to risk it, just don't get a $10 blow job. Go choices!

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RE: legalizing prostitution? - 7/8/2007 3:53:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

HaveRopeWillBind:
I have no idea how to respond to someone who is against legal prostitution but in favor of illegal prostitution.
thompson


Thompson,
I am not an advocate for either. I was simply saying that if it were to be legalized then it should be legal only in controlled areas. If not and it were legal just anywhere you would wind up with kids being solicited on school yards or playgrounds. College campuses in particular would be hot spots. By doing this in legal zones that sort of thing is controlled without overly infringing on the overall business.

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