Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 9:19:00 AM   
anthrosub


Posts: 843
Joined: 6/2/2004
Status: offline 		To anyone driving within the state of Virginia, be aware that new laws have gone into effect as of July 1st.  The penalities are outrageous and have already attracted the attention of the media to some extent.  For example, under the right circumstances it is now possible to get a $3000 fine for speeding!  Driving 20 MPH over the limit is now a $1050 fine!
 
Although not a new law, driving over 80 MPH on the interstates is automatically regarded as "Reckless Driving" and is a criminal offence, not a speeding ticket.  Driving that fast in lower speed zones is obviously worse.  There are no warnings at the state line, so anyone driving through Virginia should be aware of the risk of speeding.
 
These penalties very often do not fit the crime and those who don't take them seriously could have their lives ruined.  A criminal offense means having to indicate "Yes" on any application that asks if you have a criminal record for the rest of your life.  You could loose your job, have your credit rating lowered, be denied a security clearance, and many other issues.

_____________________________

"It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 1:50:20 PM   
CuriousLord


Posts: 3911
Joined: 4/3/2007
Status: offline 		Yeah. I'm normally whole-heartedly against the [insert profanity (noun, plural)] who go to the polls for the sake of voting along party lines or based off something that they haven't researched and haven't done so myself.

Still, living here, and being something of a speeder between universities (I have a lot of driving in my day), this effects me. Enough so that I'm ready to make time next election day.

(in reply to anthrosub)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 3:07:16 PM   
seeksfemslave


Posts: 4011
Joined: 6/16/2006
Status: offline 		Hello anthrosub, nice to see you are still alive and kicking,. Where have you been lol

(in reply to anthrosub)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 5:02:00 PM   
anthrosub


Posts: 843
Joined: 6/2/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Hello anthrosub, nice to see you are still alive and kicking,. Where have you been lol


Hey there seeks.  Nice to hear from you.  I've taken a break of sorts but will probably be visiting more often on the boards again.  How are you doing these days?

_____________________________

"It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde

(in reply to seeksfemslave)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 5:29:59 PM   
velvetears


Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline 		Glad i don't live there anymore.  i had a 6 month relocation to VA that didn't work out.  i can't help myself from speeding - it's in my blood, i am not even aware i am doing it. What an absolutely ridiculous law - i hope other states don't follow suit. 

_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to anthrosub)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 5:58:42 PM   
FatDomDaddy


Posts: 3183
Joined: 1/31/2004
Status: offline 		20 miles over the posted speed limit on most of the Interstate system is 85 miles an hour. So if one is doing say 90 mph, I would think a $3,000 fine is in order.

Here is the thing....

The people of Virgina elected the powers that put this in place. if they don't like it, they can vote in new people who will change it.


(in reply to velvetears)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 6:14:15 PM   
cyberdude611


Posts: 2596
Joined: 5/7/2006
Status: offline 		You guys don't know the half of the story....

The politician that put this in place is a traffic lawyer. And he did this in order to drive business to his law firm.

America truely is dying right before our eyes. I don't think there has ever been a period in time where our government is as corrupt as it is today.

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 6:28:50 PM   
velvetears


Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

20 miles over the posted speed limit on most of the Interstate system is 85 miles an hour. So if one is doing say 90 mph, I would think a $3,000 fine is in order.

Here is the thing....

The people of Virgina elected the powers that put this in place. if they don't like it, they can vote in new people who will change it.




i take it you drive like a turtle?  $3,000.00 is RIDICULOUS.  Sue the damn car manufactureres for making car's that go over the legal limits... yeah fat chance of that happening - curb the damn commercials that target speed for marketing their vehicle.  Why does it all lay on the consumer?  Ever try actually going the speed limit? It's dangerous - you get cut off, given the finger, tail gated, and generally make the highway unsafe.  i find it safer to keep up with traffic - which in my area is about 75 to 85 mph - i am in the NYC area.  i challenge anyone to actually use the middle lane going 65 on the Long Island Expressway LOL....let me know if you make it.

_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 6:47:09 PM   
instynctive


Posts: 2726
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

20 miles over the posted speed limit on most of the Interstate system is 85 miles an hour. So if one is doing say 90 mph, I would think a $3,000 fine is in order.

Here is the thing....

The people of Virgina elected the powers that put this in place. if they don't like it, they can vote in new people who will change it.




Actually, in the south, most of the interstates have a speed limit of 70 mph...


_____________________________


Lifestyle-friendly web hosting and design: http://kinkyqueer.net

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 6:57:29 PM   
Lashra


Posts: 4900
Joined: 2/9/2006
Status: offline 		I was down in Va this weekend and 495 and 66 both were crawling with state troopers shooting radar. Luckily for me I know I have a lead foot so I set the cruise control and stay in the right lane.

~Lashra


_____________________________

“We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It's one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it's another to think that yours is the only path.”






(in reply to instynctive)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 8:50:07 PM   
petdave


Posts: 2479
Status: offline 		All you need to know about Virginia you learn the moment you cross the border headed northbound- an absolute forest of signs warning about gun laws, radar detector laws, seatbelt laws, this law, that law, the other law... fuck that candy-ass totalitarian bullshit state. It's almost enough to make air travel seem like the lesser evil...
NAH.
i'll just head west instead.
On behalf of the South, i cede Virginia to the North, and all the other thievin, busybody nanny states.

...dave

(in reply to Lashra)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/8/2007 9:43:10 PM   
uwinceismile


Posts: 365
Joined: 5/29/2007
Status: offline 		i read this story the other day. if i recall corectly, they need the funds for road construction and maintenance...they are following suit of a couple of states that have already implemented this strategy,(believe they were southern states) sorry dave, not a shot bro ;)
and they also said these fines were only to be levied to va state drivers, because they dont believe that they could force out of state drivers to pay the excessive fees in court if it was challenged.

(in reply to petdave)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 4:31:36 AM   
Caius


Posts: 175
Joined: 2/2/2005
Status: offline 		In my book, 80 miles over the speed limit IS reckless driving, at least nominally.  And I really couldn't care less how many yahoos think they and their mustangs are up to the task of executing deft manuvers at 150+ MPH.   I happen to know a fair amount about the physical parameters of human response time, and let me tell you, people are rarely what they would like to believe in this respect.  At least, certainly not to the degree that they can continue to push the envelope and not have the odds catch up with them.   There are people out there, for crissake and many of them go to extraordinary lengths which cause them unumberable delays in their own lives to make sure they don't risk the safety of others. 

Now are there scenarios in which these rules can be safely ignored?  Sure. But on average, if people are genuinely concerned about the safety of others around them,  most of them would be well-advised to think more about slowing down than getting  indignified by law in this area, especially when there are so many better thigns to be pissed about concerning your rights as a motorist.  Or your rights in general, for that matter.  

I mean...we actually make travel two feet above the Earth's surface more dangerous than travel 50, 000 feet above it.  How good can we really be, collectively?   Unless you've been racing NASCAR recently, assuming you're above the mean is an ignorant and selfish indulgence in self-flattery.   And while I'm no fan of invasive law, the reduction of such fines is gonna fall pretty short on my list of social injustices in need of immediate redress in America.   When I hear people talk seriously about something like this being a factor in whether they support someone's command of an office, when leaders of any degree of power have almost universally shrunk from seriously addressing problems of dire and global significance in recent time.....

I must, however, concede to velvetears' point.  There are plenty of places where the situation has simply evolved to a point where going the posted speed limit can be a dangerous move.   But typically we're then talking about places where the much broader problem of population density makes it nearly impossible for the region to function without some speed.     And to the OP, or anyone else inclined to respond, I certainly agree that a thousand dollar fine for 20 over is a steep proposition for many people and resonably regarded as over-the-top.  But every little bit over that carries you exponentially closer to statistically signifcant risk.   Personally, I can appreciate that people have a love of speed, but I've always felt that if one is really going to indulge it they should at least get a motorcycle or at the very least a smaller car so as to be more likely to be the one smeared over the asphalt or crumpled into steel.  

Just some thoughts from someone who's seen enough of the results of individuals failing to realize the extent of their abilities in this realm for one lifetime.

Ahem.  Peace.

< Message edited by Caius -- 7/10/2007 4:52:23 AM >

(in reply to anthrosub)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 5:00:43 AM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline 		For many years- PA had the expensive fines. Tho SUCH WAS POSTED AT STATE LINES!

I never was a speed demon till i wrecked my back. try to tell a cop- yeah my back hurts -and i just wanted to get home.

on my trips to Chicago- the closer I get the crazier I drive. As I gotta gear up to fit in.

The VA law sucks. Ofter a 4 wheeler must do what needs to be done to avoid semi trucks!

My record time on driving the stretch was 9 hours. at 95 mph. of course one has to slow down when rounding a mountain.

luckily some points dropped off my record.

speaking of nasty. my one brother could loose his license over smog emissions. his newly divorced ex- wont furnish the vehicle - of course the wretch knows what she is doing.

(in reply to Caius)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 5:18:54 AM   
sublimelysensual


Posts: 298
Joined: 7/25/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

i read this story the other day. if i recall corectly, they need the funds for road construction and maintenance...they are following suit of a couple of states that have already implemented this strategy,(believe they were southern states) sorry dave, not a shot bro ;)
and they also said these fines were only to be levied to va state drivers, because they dont believe that they could force out of state drivers to pay the excessive fees in court if it was challenged.


Exactly, the fees are civil fees, not criminal ones, and for in state drivers only...and believe me when I say this has been highly publicized here..anyone in state who doesn't know about it would have had to have their head up their azz for the past couple of months. Also, the speed limit on the interstates here..(81, 95 in particular) are 70-80 in most places...
 
 
-a
 
-edited because i shouldn't post before my first cup of coffee..lol-

< Message edited by sublimelysensual -- 7/10/2007 5:20:09 AM >

_____________________________

"To make oneself an object, to make oneself passive, is a very different thing from being a passive object." -Simone De Beauvoir -'The Second Sex'

(in reply to uwinceismile)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 5:25:57 AM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave

All you need to know about Virginia you learn the moment you cross the border headed northbound- an absolute forest of signs warning about gun laws, radar detector laws, seatbelt laws, this law, that law, the other law... fuck that candy-ass totalitarian bullshit state. It's almost enough to make air travel seem like the lesser evil...
NAH.
i'll just head west instead.
On behalf of the South, i cede Virginia to the North, and all the other thievin, busybody nanny states.

...dave



Virginia is the RICH side of Washington DC.; not the neighboring Maryland is poor.[it isnt] You have extremely wealthy suburbs of DC there- the "rush hour" is bad 24 hours a day.


(in reply to petdave)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 2:05:38 PM   
VeryMercurial


Posts: 620
Joined: 6/5/2006
Status: offline 		Thank you, I drive to North Carolina often.
I thought the traffic laws in North Carolina were crazy, now this.

< Message edited by VeryMercurial -- 7/10/2007 2:09:34 PM >

(in reply to anthrosub)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 2:34:09 PM   
velvetears


Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline 		If it was about safety it would be one thing, but it's not, they could care less, it's about money - rat bastards.  We have 55 mph speed limits here on some highways and parkways - NO one goes that slow.  You may get away with 65 but even thats slow. 

They should focus on the dangerous drivers - the ones who cut you off, swerve in between lanes to get ahead, tail gate to try to force you to go faster etc.  Most people going 75 to 85 are simply keeping up with traffic and not trying to be a road hazard.

_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to VeryMercurial)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 2:51:01 PM   
MistressDaisy73


Posts: 165
Joined: 4/2/2007
Status: offline 		Its all crap anyhow... I used to live in Alexandria, VA... born and raised outside Baltimore... and lived in the MD side of DC suburbs too. The greater DC area is usually among the top 5 most expensive places to live over the past decade of studies. MD, unless it has changed since I moved... has had the same flat 5% sales tax almost my whole life, that I am aware of, and does not (or did not) tax normal food items. But they have a piggy back county tax on top of your state income tax, though no car tax. VA has a (or had a) 7 to 7.5% sales tax, but a much lower income tax, and no county income tax, but they have a car tax. I live in the St. Louis area now, once again a city bordering 2 states.... it is all crap and if they dont take it from one place, they take it another.

Now how this applies to the new laws? Its all about $$$, as most of you have already seen. My point is that in an area with worse traffic than almost anywhere I have been, and in an area that is, if not rich, then certainly THINKS the people there are, surely they can come up with funds for the roads other places. How about the states that founded the damn country via tobacco sales, and who now tax the hell out of the stuff they used to be proud of... how about they use that damn tax for the roads. The damn car taxes are supposed to help the roads in VA and the piggy back county tax is supposed to help them in MD. Lets get it together people!

:) Rant over. And funny thing is.. I STILL miss the east coast!

M. Daisy

(in reply to VeryMercurial)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws - 7/10/2007 2:58:48 PM   
MzMia


Posts: 5333
Joined: 7/30/2004
Status: offline 		Glad I read this!!!
I will slow down a lot now on the highways.
I rarely go over 75, but I will watch it.
 

_____________________________

Namaste'
To Each His/Her Own
"DENIAL ain't just a river in Egypt." Mark Twain


What's your favorite fetish?
"My partner's whisper"--bloomswell

(in reply to MistressDaisy73)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094