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Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:23:20 AM   
Missokyst


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Yesterday I decided to BBQ. We have one of those weber grills that
look like a small black round thing. None of us here enjoys the taste
of starter fluid so a while back we bought a chimney stack thing that
lets you start your coals with newspaper and a match. Usually my
daughter is the house backyard cook, but yesterday I took a shot at it.

So I started up the coals and when they were ready I flipped them into
the bottom of the grill. Well.. one of those little bast*rds escaped
my notice and landed on my porch. When I went in to grab the tri-tip
I had seasoned and put it on the grill that little coal was waiting
for me. My left foot went down right on top of it somewhere between
the center of my foot and the ball of the foot up top. OWIE!

I hobbled over to the faucet to turn the hose on and get my foot in
water asap. *Quick tip here.. do NOT assume water is going to be cold
from the faucet!* I went to the hose end and put my foot down into
the puddle of water gathering on my grass. HOT HOT HOT. Not good.
It finally cooled some and I kept my foot there a bit. Then I got
into the pool for an hour.

Later, I was online reading various bdsm forums while my foot was
soaking in a tub of cold water. So what do I see? LOL people
pointing out that real phyiscal play can be painful!

I mean.. I could have typed out A painful foot experience as
bastinado. People seem to really enjoy that foot caning experience.
But I wonder if it's their fantasy or if they have really felt the
pain and soreness that lingers for days?

Or I could have written up a hot branding scene (effectively this WILL
be a brand on my foot for months to come), and people would oooooooo
and ahhhhhhhhh imagining their master putting a brand on their virgin
flesh, and it would get them all quivery. HMM.... LOL trust me, I
think the pain would be just as bad as this on my foot.

So for me this real life physical pain which has both scarred me, and
will linger for sometime, and has shown me a physical limit which I
hope is never passed again.

Of course, this injury was caused by my carelessness and not something
delivered at my lovers hands. But the physical pain is still pain.

When a scene is done, the reality can linger. This is the reason I
can't do that online submission/training thing. I know reality, I
have felt that sting of heat. I have felt the needles piercing my
flesh. I have seen that blade draw blood. I know that a purple
bruise while sexy as heck when it happens.. is going to turn into an
ugly green yellow splotch while it heals. Once you experience
something in the flesh it loses power when someone types it to you and
you realize that they just don't know..

So.. for me,
I don't get foot pain. No bastinado for me!
I don't understand the desire to be branded.
And.. LOL online bdsm is just not going to do it for me.
Reality has skewed my views.

What are things you just don't get? Needles? Spanking? Tickling?
Enema's? I am not talking of just limits here. I am speaking of things that
you read about and just shake your head and think.. ok.. why?
Discuss
Kyst


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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:30:49 AM   
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((HUGSS)) sorry bout your foot that really sucks!!!!!!!

And yes I know what you mean, when I first stared online when I was *coughs an age way to young* seeing "SPANK SPANK SPANK" typed on the screen did do something for me, but the first time a cane came down on my backside for real the magic of playing online was forever gone!!!

Magik's slave

< Message edited by MagiksSlave -- 7/8/2007 10:31:52 AM >


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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:31:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Yesterday I decided to BBQ.


Oooooo  BBQ....  BBQ brush...  takes a bit to get past that thought....

Now I will go read the rest of your post.

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:31:30 AM   
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I don't get people who assume that actions = orientation

I don't get why people insist that service = submission

I don't get why people insist that sub = passive and dom = active

I don't get why people SAY that informed consent is what's important and then try and close down whole types of activities as wrong/bad

I don't get why the empathic people are always telling me I'm bad for not being more empathic

I don't get why people get into bdsm and allow themselves to act like they have lost all reason

I don't get why people take it personally

I don't get why people don't understand switches/multiple dominant relationships/open poly/non punishment involving dynamics and more

I don't get why domestic service is so glorified but financial service is so demeaned

< Message edited by LuckyAlbatross -- 7/8/2007 10:32:22 AM >


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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:36:36 AM   
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That sucks about your foot; it must be painful.

One of the things that I don't get is why people continue to equate bottoming with submitting and topping with dominanting.  The two can exist without the other.  Yes, I think online training to be a bottom or top is pretty unrealistic.  However, submission and dominance can be explored without any physical touch at all. 

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:38:47 AM   
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I could never get into online play. I occasionally spank myself just to feel the sting, but, for me, it's like masturbation...though it feels great, it feels even better when someone else is doing it.

That being said, though I've seen some beautilful designs made in flesh from needles, it still doesn't appeal to me. The occasional shot from my doctor is enough to turn me off.

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:48:48 AM   
Missokyst


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

but the first time a cane came down on my backside for real the magic of playing online was forever gone!!!

Magik's slave


Yeah reality has a nasty way of interfering!
 
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I don't get why the empathic people are always telling me I'm bad for not being more empathic

I don't get why people get into bdsm and allow themselves to act like they have lost all reason



LMAO... yeah I totally get that!
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists
Yes, I think online training to be a bottom or top is pretty unrealistic.  However, submission and dominance can be explored without any physical touch at all. 
Knight's Kyra


LOL
I guess we are all sort of submitting to something.  The Government comes to mind through that yearly tax requirement, without any physical touch so that does make sense.
 
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ORIGINAL: nmjardine

That being said, though I've seen some beautilful designs made in flesh from needles, it still doesn't appeal to me. The occasional shot from my doctor is enough to turn me off.



The designs can be lovely.  I saw a very cute leg laced up with ribbon that I almost wanted to try.  LOL Almost.  I am ok with needles but I am not sure I want them on my legs.
 
Thanks for the kind thoughts on my injury.  It is definitely owie walking on the side of my foot for a while.

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 10:56:51 AM   
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i don't get scat.  Just cannot see how people can eroticize it, engage in it, like it, etc. 

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:07:42 AM   
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I definitly understand, it's one thing to actually talk about it but it's completely different to actually do it and live it. 

~meticulous~

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:15:29 AM   
kiyari


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I don't get people who assume that actions = orientation

I don't get why people insist that service = submission

I don't get why people insist that sub = passive and dom = active

I don't get why people SAY that informed consent is what's important and then try and close down whole types of activities as wrong/bad

I don't get why the empathic people are always telling me I'm bad for not being more empathic

I don't get why people get into bdsm and allow themselves to act like they have lost all reason

I don't get why people take it personally

I don't get why people don't understand switches/multiple dominant relationships/open poly/non punishment involving dynamics and more

I don't get why domestic service is so glorified but financial service is so demeaned


Not to hi-jack the thread, but just wanted to observe:

There seem to be profiles a-plenty on CM (generally the male 'Dom' or couples) where what is sought is some creature described in the main as a 'service' slave ~ where this ideal creature's primary desire, is to function as (presumably:) some UNPAID domestic, with the added aspect (to the soliciting poster) of being 'safe' to abuse (to me 'abuse' seems to fit the context, JMNSHO) in ways one would certainly find oneself in legal difficulties in from so indulging, were the (presumably willing:) recipient to be on a payroll... what a deal, sez I, if ya can find it...

THE PUNCHLINE BEING ~

Seems like the male (or couples) version of 'financial domination', just offhand

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:23:45 AM   
ready4srvce4all


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I just don't get someone being upset their profile was viewed.

I just don't get why people will pose as something they are not online.

I just don't get any language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet.

I just don't get pineapple on a pizza.

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:29:29 AM   
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then you are really fucked, buddy----

pineapple is vegetation and pizza is made using flour----

I don't see how you cannot fathom what should be clear to anyone...

Aghastadly,
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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:31:31 AM   
Missokyst


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Not to hijack the hijack but..
I know several male sub types who would happily become UNPAID domestic or garden service types because its their kink.  I have a couple of offers on my table for naked slave gardening, or cleaning, because it fulfills their humiliation fetish.  Not my thing, but its A thing some people might find hot.  I also do not get people who are negative on the financial service aspect.  But it may be because I know several people for whom that actually works.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: kiyari


Not to hi-jack the thread, but just wanted to observe:

There seem to be profiles a-plenty on CM (generally the male 'Dom' or couples) where what is sought is some creature described in the main as a 'service' slave ~ where this ideal creature's primary desire, is to function as (presumably:) some UNPAID domestic, with the added aspect (to the soliciting poster) of being 'safe' to abuse (to me 'abuse' seems to fit the context, JMNSHO) in ways one would certainly find oneself in legal difficulties in from so indulging, were the (presumably willing:) recipient to be on a payroll... what a deal, sez I, if ya can find it...

THE PUNCHLINE BEING ~

Seems like the male (or couples) version of 'financial domination', just offhand


< Message edited by Missokyst -- 7/8/2007 11:32:28 AM >


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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:38:39 AM   
ready4srvce4all


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OMG, who raised you?  Wolves?  Wait, wolves wouldn't have pineapple on a pizza either.  They "get it".  No gd fruit on pizza.



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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:44:05 AM   
Missokyst


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heh.. LOL you know, I have an evil side.  I think I would want you to add pineapple to your pizza just because.
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: ready4srvce4all

OMG, who raised you?  Wolves?  Wait, wolves wouldn't have pineapple on a pizza either.  They "get it".  No gd fruit on pizza.




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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 11:56:55 AM   
Griswold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Yesterday I decided to BBQ. We have one of those weber grills that
look like a small black round thing. None of us here enjoys the taste
of starter fluid so a while back we bought a chimney stack thing that
lets you start your coals with newspaper and a match. Usually my
daughter is the house backyard cook, but yesterday I took a shot at it.

So I started up the coals and when they were ready I flipped them into
the bottom of the grill. Well.. one of those little bast*rds escaped
my notice and landed on my porch. When I went in to grab the tri-tip
I had seasoned and put it on the grill that little coal was waiting
for me. My left foot went down right on top of it somewhere between
the center of my foot and the ball of the foot up top. OWIE!

I hobbled over to the faucet to turn the hose on and get my foot in
water asap. *Quick tip here.. do NOT assume water is going to be cold
from the faucet!* I went to the hose end and put my foot down into
the puddle of water gathering on my grass. HOT HOT HOT. Not good.
It finally cooled some and I kept my foot there a bit. Then I got
into the pool for an hour.

Later, I was online reading various bdsm forums while my foot was
soaking in a tub of cold water. So what do I see? LOL people
pointing out that real phyiscal play can be painful!

I mean.. I could have typed out A painful foot experience as
bastinado. People seem to really enjoy that foot caning experience.
But I wonder if it's their fantasy or if they have really felt the
pain and soreness that lingers for days?

Or I could have written up a hot branding scene (effectively this WILL
be a brand on my foot for months to come), and people would oooooooo
and ahhhhhhhhh imagining their master putting a brand on their virgin
flesh, and it would get them all quivery. HMM.... LOL trust me, I
think the pain would be just as bad as this on my foot.

So for me this real life physical pain which has both scarred me, and
will linger for sometime, and has shown me a physical limit which I
hope is never passed again.

Of course, this injury was caused by my carelessness and not something
delivered at my lovers hands. But the physical pain is still pain.

When a scene is done, the reality can linger. This is the reason I
can't do that online submission/training thing. I know reality, I
have felt that sting of heat. I have felt the needles piercing my
flesh. I have seen that blade draw blood. I know that a purple
bruise while sexy as heck when it happens.. is going to turn into an
ugly green yellow splotch while it heals. Once you experience
something in the flesh it loses power when someone types it to you and
you realize that they just don't know..

So.. for me,
I don't get foot pain. No bastinado for me!
I don't understand the desire to be branded.
And.. LOL online bdsm is just not going to do it for me.
Reality has skewed my views.

What are things you just don't get? Needles? Spanking? Tickling?
Enema's? I am not talking of just limits here. I am speaking of things that
you read about and just shake your head and think.. ok.. why?
Discuss
Kyst



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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 12:10:09 PM   
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i still don't get folks who think that a proposition from someone who "isn't in their league" is a huge insult and deserves any and all rude and hostile remarks that come to mind, including being reposted in the forums for other people to join in.
i don't get "Dominants" who complain about how much "spineless" submissives suck

Being male, i'll never get the "Yes i'm wearing an outfit that pushes my boobs up to my chin and shows aureola when i breathe, and don't you DARE stare at my tits" mentality

i don't get how someone can be involved in an "alternative" sexual dynamic, but still feel free to go on rants about how someone else's (consensual) kink is disgusting and wrong

i don't get pineapple on pizza either

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 12:10:29 PM   
kiyari


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ready4srvce4all

I just don't get someone being upset their profile was viewed.

I just don't get why people will pose as something they are not online.

I just don't get any language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet.

I just don't get pineapple on a pizza.


Hmm... never played RuneScape, have you?

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 12:15:47 PM   
kiyari


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Not to hijack the hijack but..
I know several male sub types who would happily become UNPAID domestic or garden service types because its their kink.  I have a couple of offers on my table for naked slave gardening, or cleaning, because it fulfills their humiliation fetish.  Not my thing, but its A thing some people might find hot.  I also do not get people who are negative on the financial service aspect.  But it may be because I know several people for whom that actually works.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: kiyari
<snipped>



You and I have no Issue...

I cast no aspersions upon any genuine 'service' supplicant.

What I was disparaging,
were those who would further 'exploit' one of such pure aspiration.

...unless I misunderstand your counterpoint...?

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RE: Things I just don't get.. - 7/8/2007 12:18:20 PM   
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Pain in an erotic context at a level you can eroticize is a lot different than other kinds of pain. I happen to love a light level of bastinado, to me it's deep tissue foot massage. However I'm at the podiatrist a couple of times a year getting treatment for a foot injury caused by a horse stomping on my foot when I wouldn't let him eat my new straw hat. Believe me, when that acts up and I'm limping around, it is bad foot pain. But being tied up, having him whack the bottom of my feet with a wooden dowel is just great. Different kinds of pain in different scenarios.

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