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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/9/2007 8:25:46 AM

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I have been with both and i really don't have a preference. (Well actually i do now cause how Master is but we won't go there). As long as the guy know what he was doing with it and you just push the foreskin back to give a BJ what is the big difference? I don't get it.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/9/2007 3:06:51 PM

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The WHO is recommending circumsizing as it reduces the chance of getting AIDs by up to 60%. Something to consider.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/9/2007 3:14:07 PM

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i dont really have a preference. I have mostly been with cut, my master is also, I am uncut.

it is wierd i have noticed guys perfer guys to be uncut but women cut

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/9/2007 3:24:32 PM

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Why do people not put out the full information instead of making dangerous sweeping statements.
I am assuming that your 'statement' is the report based only applies in Female to Male HIV - not other transmissions as the percentages differ. So for a female, it makes no real difference - unless you have HIV and do not wish to pass it on but then circumcision is hardly a good alternative to contraceptive is it?

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/9/2007 3:27:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan
Now the top on me loves just for the fun things that can be done with foreskin like a tiny piece of ice being slipped underneath :P clothespin attached etc.

you are pure evil

i'm uncut... i understand for many it's a turn off, but with good basic hygiene the normal complaints one hears about it are not an issue; though i know that some just plain don't like the appearance (and if i'm erect it's not even noticable, unless the lack of a mushroom-head is due to being uncircumcised)

i react differently to direct stimulation (in both good and bad ways) than i understand most men do, but i'm not really sure what is related and what not)

on the whole i've gotten no complaints, even from those that claimed not to like a protective hood over their lover's active brain

sorry for all the info, you asked

by the way, i'd not consider getting cut at this point in my life, i don't think i missed anything by having a little extra skin

os: how is the skin "extra" when it's what you were born with? i know i've never had a foreskin extension

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 2:47:14 AM

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I think it's a pity that many girls are against uncut cocks. It's such a shameful thing, because no one should feel less desireable just because they are natural.. Uncut and un-changed. In today's society we try changing verything about ourselves... Such a pity :-/

Personally I don't care if the cock is cut or un-cut... WHy would I?

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 3:20:12 AM

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It has to be cut for me. I had an ex that wasn't cut, and he wasn't clean. Now when I think about it, my tummy turns. It's nothing against the uncut guys, it's just with the past I don't think I could even think about going down there with my mouth.

Master is cut and yummy...just the way I like him.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 7:27:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: littlekitten1
I think it's a pity that many girls are against uncut cocks. It's such a shameful thing, because no one should feel less desireable just because they are natural.. Uncut and un-changed. In today's society we try changing verything about ourselves... Such a pity :-/

Personally I don't care if the cock is cut or un-cut... WHy would I?

LOL it is ironic, isn't it? What unnatural things women do to feel MORE attractive and sexually appetizing- shaving, grooming, painting, perhaps even plastic surgery.

But yet something most men are never even given a voice on, something natural from birth is so often shunned.

Or maybe we're just a society that doesn't like natural?

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 7:39:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: darchChylde
i'm uncut... i understand for many it's a turn off, but with good basic hygiene the normal complaints one hears about it are not an issue; though i know that some just plain don't like the appearance (and if i'm erect it's not even noticable, unless the lack of a mushroom-head is due to being uncircumcised)

Great points, darchChylde. Those were the two points I was going to bring up. I've been with both "cut" and "uncut" men and never had any negative experiences. As you say, when erect it was not even noticable and as they practiced showering and good hygiene, there were no issues there either. For me, it's really irrelevant as it's the man I'm interested in, not just his foreskin

. Hopefully, they wouldn't have ruled me out solely on the basis of the size/shape of my labia or something just as shallow. But then again, if they would've, I wouldn't have been wasting my time on them to start with

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os: how is the skin "extra" when it's what you were born with? i know i've never had a foreskin extension

Hilarious! Exactly - it's not "extra." Why not turn the tables and insinuate that somehow "cut" men are lacking rather than saying "uncut" men have something extra and unwanted? Cute point...........luci

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 7:51:52 AM

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We usually expect what we are used to in our culture, and here in the midwest USA cocks are cut on most males very young.
This is certainly NOT true of all parts of the world. I believe a cut cock in some areas would be considered unusual and maybe ugly by many people there.
I'm leaving the religious angles out of this as that may be a culture's reason for cutting or not cutting, but it has no connection to this discussion.
I was cut as a baby thus I do not know the change of sensitivity either way which some folk talk about.
I have very much enjoyed seeing and enjoying the reactions of dear ones with beautiful cocks of both sorts.
Sharing a slave with another man can be sweet if we all are deeply caring, no matter what skin flaps do or do not exist. Same for serving a mistress with another man.
The prettiest cock I have seen was cut. The very close second was not.
I deeply care about both men and their partners.

The biggest I have seen was not cut, but erect it looked cut. Soft you could match it in size with a beer can. When hard one seeing it might wish to run away, if you did not know this man's totally monogamous and consensual nature.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 8:23:36 AM

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More recently there has been a trend with young parents to NOT circumsize their baby boys. OK, I dont mean lots arent doing it, more more arent doing it that 10 years ago. The Doctors around here agree it has something to do with Medicaid refusing to pay for circumcision now calling it an "unnesecary" procedure. So with it costing aroun 200$, many parents are forgoing having it done. So maybe down the road, when all these young boys get to the sexual age, it will be more accepting to be un-cut. It wasnt until I dated a guy from the UK that I had ever even seen an un-cut man, I grew up thinking all men were. Understood that men who werent were dirty and got infections all the time. Well, I got proven wrong, and in truth, I kinda liked it, maybe because it was different, I dont know, maybe just because the guy I dated was really talented. My husband now, is un-cut, but I didnt even ask when I first met him, it didnt matter to me one way or another.

Why do american women prefer circumsized men? Because no woman can resist something thats 40% off.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 11:16:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: alta

The WHO is recommending circumsizing as it reduces the chance of getting AIDs by up to 60%. Something to consider.

Correction they are recogmending circumsizing in 3rd world countries and places like africa where it is less likely for a man to have the proper resources to clean and take care of am uncircumsized penis and have little acess to condoms. You are less likely to AIDS during unprotected sex when cut vs uncut. So, if you have access to condoms then you don't have to worry about the recogmendation. In devoloped nations circumsizion is nothing more than cosmetic. Many insurance companys won't even cover it at birth.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 3:29:52 PM

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I've never been with a cut man. In fact, I have no idea what a cut penis would even look like. I will admit to wondering if giving head or a handjob would be easier without the extra skin to deal with. I can't look at a sharpei (sp?) without thinking about a penis.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 3:33:51 PM

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Overheard at Starbucks in Skokie the other day: "I used to be a mohel. The pay wasn't much, but the tips were big!"

*GRIN*

Sorry about that eight day thing.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 3:42:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

More recently there has been a trend with young parents to NOT circumsize their baby boys. OK, I dont mean lots arent doing it, more more arent doing it that 10 years ago. The Doctors around here agree it has something to do with Medicaid refusing to pay for circumcision now calling it an "unnesecary" procedure. So with it costing aroun 200$, many parents are forgoing having it done. So maybe down the road, when all these young boys get to the sexual age, it will be more accepting to be un-cut. It wasnt until I dated a guy from the UK that I had ever even seen an un-cut man, I grew up thinking all men were. Understood that men who werent were dirty and got infections all the time. Well, I got proven wrong, and in truth, I kinda liked it, maybe because it was different, I dont know, maybe just because the guy I dated was really talented. My husband now, is un-cut, but I didnt even ask when I first met him, it didnt matter to me one way or another.

Why do american women prefer circumsized men? Because no woman can resist something thats 40% off.

I went this route just because i for one wasn't going to put mine through that and two it not nessecary to him having a good happy life. As i said in my first one cut un cut it doen't matter. what does matter is how long they last

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 3:43:01 PM

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I must be channeling LA. This is a repost from a thread in 2005. Note that this was written BEFORE the WHO statement on circumcision, which Casie pretty much summarized correctly:

I work in public health/health care. This topic comes up a lot (usually after a few beers). Bottom line: Health issues are probably NOT relevant to the decision to circumcise or not. Here is the latest info. as best as I can tell:

1. Penile cancer is virtually unknown in circumcised men. It is known but EXTREMELY RARE in uncircumcised men.

2. There is some evidence that cervical cancer rates in the (female, DUH) partners of uncircumcised men are greater than those in the partners of circumcised men. But the studies (as in most studies attempting to find "causes" of cancer) are spotty. NOTE that if you have a political dog in this fight (i.e. you are FOR it or AGAINST it) you will find a ton of web resources discounting these studies, stating alternatives, etc. But the fact remains that in two limited studies, the rates were statistically significantly different.

3. Rates of penile infection are greater in uncircumcised men, but this is almost always due to poor hygiene. Teach little boys how to clean themselves, and so long as they keep cleaning themselves, this issue goes away.

4. There is a small but present population of men who's foreskins don't retract well, either because the hole in the foreskin is not large enough to allow it to slide under the head when the penis is erect, or because of skin adhesions. As they grow older, these men might suffer pain and disfiguration if the problem is not corrected. The most common correction is circumcision, although there are a variety of other methods to ease retraction.

The real issue seems to me to be one of personal choice, and on some level, a choice you make for your infant sons. Do you want your little boy to look like daddy? Do you circumcise for religious reasons? Do you abhor "tampering" with nature (in which case I assume your dogs have tails, and undocked ears, you don't spay or neuter and NONE OF YOU pierce anything at all..its "unnatural", you know).

-E.

(BTW - I have two friends who were circumcised as adults. IT HURTS. If you are going to make the choice for your son, at least do it at an early age, when ostensibly it hurts less.)

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 4:02:40 PM

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I have seen em all. I consider myself to be something of an expert and, shall we say, connoisseur of cocks. I will put it plainly... dick cheese can be on any of 'em. Not all foreskins are created equal, nor are all mohels or Pediatricians who perform the operation. I have seen some f'ed up jobs...

I think, really, it comes down to the individual and cleanliness. Some people, even being clean, might have problems. Some, even not using the best hygiene, might be just fine, uncut. Plenty of circumsized penis(es...?) can have problems regardless.

I have 3 boys of my own. It was a minor debate with their father, who is cut, but didn't want them to be, and me, who is female and never really thought about it. We decided to leave them be. Yes, if they decide later that they want to have it done, it will be more painful. But what if they, like their father, wished it HADN'T been done. With our kids, in many things, we go with the least harm... and something that can never be undone seemed worse than even having a painful choice. But I stress that this was just OUR road and I have no judgement about others who feel differently.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 4:23:23 PM

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But I agree we woman are lucky unless we are from a middle eastern country where they circumsize women too.

Depends on the sect, rather than the country, though some countries are monocultured.
The really big problem is with places like Somalia, where they add a clitorectomy.
That said, they do practice genital mutilation in the western world as well.
Except here it is reserved for boys and intersexed children, not girls.
Admittedly, it may very well be an advantage for boys.
But it's still permanent surgical modification of kids.

And the reasons in the west are identical: culture, tradition, religion. I've yet to see an argument in support of the western practice that does not apply equally to the practices elsewhere, except the one about health in boys, which opens a different can of worms. We might want to deal with our own issues before meddling in those of other cultures.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 4:33:47 PM

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Or maybe we're just a society that doesn't like natural?

That seems self-evident. And not just in this comparatively minor issue.

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RE: cut or un-cut?? - 7/10/2007 4:41:31 PM

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If a guy is uncut then its essential to keep it very clean. The positive side is that once the foreskin is pulled back the glans is normally very sensetive. The negative side, speaking as a submissive, is there is all that skin to hang clothes pins on.

As for zippers.....they have been a hard limit since school days and im saying no more.

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