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Level -> Vinyl? (7/11/2007 5:27:03 PM)

Does anyone still listen to vinyl records? Why? Where do you buy your music? Do you ever buy any newer music on vinyl? What type of stereo setup do you have? When is Level going to stop asking questions?




cuddleheart50 -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 5:29:17 PM)

Has Level had to much caffine this evening?




uwinceismile -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 5:30:06 PM)

yes...
i love the scratchy old school sound...
i continue to listen to what i already have..
nope...
same stereo i purchased new over 20 yrs ago,,,(state of the art)  lol
hopefully never....




Level -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 5:32:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Has Level had to much caffine this evening?


Why are you asking that question? Why, why, WHY??? [:D]




SugarMyChurro -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 6:24:24 PM)

I have over 1000 vinyl LPs, including some very hard to find items in the exotica category from the 50s and some early jazz (I got a 20 year jump on the "lounge" craze). My setup is the old style stereo setup: receiver, equalizer, direct drive turntable, etc. I haven't bought any *new* vinyl in years, but I did recently buy up everything I could find on Pat Suzuki - but all of that was used and over 40 years old already. Ebay can be a good source for cheap stuff, but sometimes you get burned by sellers who don't know how to grade used items or how to pack stuff for mailing. I never pay much because I know that the odds of something being in shit condition on arrival is very high.

Sometimes I still listen to vinyl music as is, but I am also slowly but surely transferring it all to VBR MP3 format with the LAME encoder. Takes a bit of work, but it's fun to hear old and rare stuff anyway, so it's not too much bother. I mean, it's my collection and I have no problem listening to it again while handling the various tasks to convert it to digital.

To convert to digital from vinyl you basically you go line out from the receiver to a ground loop isolator and then line in to a decent soundcard on a computer. I record full sides of vinyl records to wav form and split it up into individual songs with a sound editing program. I run some sound enhancing algorithms against the wav files before conversion to MP3, stuff like: noise reduction, click and crackle removal, and vinyl restoration - it depends, you have to have an ear for what is necessary and what is too much. When I'm done it tend to sound fairly clean and sparkly. If my method is not perfect I am still satisfied that it is perfect to my personal needs and opens up the choice between digital and analog listening options. The digital copy sounds very good and is infinitely transferable to other media.

It may interest some to know that I have used the same process to edit new CDs on the very rare occasion. Kate Bush's "Aerial" has some clipping on the second CD - no matter where I played it I could hear the clipping - so I edited it out for my own collection. No more clipping. Sad but true. My question is: how could Columbia not know they released it that way?




KatyLied -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 6:29:00 PM)

My ex has all of the vinyl.  And we had a huge collection.




Level -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 6:35:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SugarMyChurro

I have over 1000 vinyl LPs, including some very hard to find items in the exotica category from the 50s and some early jazz (I got a 20 year jump on the "lounge" craze). My setup is the old style stereo setup: receiver, equalizer, direct drive turntable, etc. I haven't bought any *new* vinyl in years, but I did recently buy up everything I could find on Pat Suzuki - but all of that was used and over 40 years old already. Ebay can be a good source for cheap stuff, but sometimes you get burned by sellers who don't know how to grade used items or how to pack stuff for mailing. I never pay much because I know that the odds of something being in shit condition on arrival is very high.

Sometimes I still listen to vinyl music as is, but I am also slowly but surely transferring it all to VBR MP3 format with the LAME encoder. Takes a bit of work, but it's fun to hear old and rare stuff anyway, so it's not too much bother. I mean, it's my collection and I have no problem listening to it again while handling the various tasks to convert it to digital.

To convert to digital from vinyl you basically you go line out from the receiver to a ground loop isolator and then line in to a decent soundcard on a computer. I record full sides of vinyl records to wav form and split it up into individual songs with a sound editing program. I run some sound enhancing algorithms against the wav files before conversion to MP3, stuff like: noise reduction, click and crackle removal, and vinyl restoration - it depends, you have to have an ear for what is necessary and what is too much. When I'm done it tend to sound fairly clean and sparkly. If my method is not perfect I am still satisfied that it is perfect to my personal needs and opens up the choice between digital and analog listening options. The digital copy sounds very good and is infinitely transferable to other media.

It may interest some to know that I have used the same process to edit new CDs on the very rare occasion. Kate Bush's "Aerial" has some clipping on the second CD - no matter where I played it I could hear the clipping - so I edited it out for my own collection. No more clipping. Sad but true. My question is: how could Columbia not know they released it that way?


Are you going to keep the vinyl after you transfer everything?
 
What got to me to thinking about all this is an issue of Sound & Vision that came in the mail today; they test 3 turntables (the "cheap" one goes for $300, the high-end one is around $8,000........choke, gasp........)
 
I still have a small number of LPs, but haven't listened to them in years.




Level -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 6:37:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

My ex has all of the vinyl.  And we had a huge collection.


Tell him you'll trade him the albums for some magic beans. [:D]

I had the chance to buy an aquaintance's collection, I kick myself for not doing it now.




SugarMyChurro -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 7:06:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level
Are you going to keep the vinyl after you transfer everything?


Some of it I will keep until I die, I suppose. A lot of it is not available in digital formats so I see what I do as the work of not just an avid listener but also that of an archivist of sorts. When it becomes legally safer to release things to the world at large, I will most likely do so. Already I have backups with other people in my social circle.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level
What got to me to thinking about all this is an issue of Sound & Vision that came in the mail today; they test 3 turntables (the "cheap" one goes for $300, the high-end one is around $8,000........choke, gasp........)


Used stuff is fine. First, you get a decent turntable - you buy someone's old $500 turntable for $50 used. You buy the new headshell, the new elliptical needle, and then weigh what you got with a force gauge. You should be able to do this for less than $150 or so. I guess you could get closer to $300 and still be alright.

If I needed anything, I'd most likely buy stuff from someone like this vendor (N.B. this is NOT a recommendation):
http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=LG&Category_Code=TURN

Mainly, I wouldn't be too worried about it nor spend to much toward the hobby. Once I get it to digital, I may never listen to the vinyl again. I may only need to be able to play a vinyl record just one more time.




DomKen -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 9:01:00 PM)

I've got a fairly new Sony turntable. The Sony is very nice and has made transfering much of my vinyl collection into mp3's easy so I can listen to it away from home.




Sub03 -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 9:19:17 PM)

What is the easiest and best way to transfer vinyl into mp3's or cd's if thats possible? Master mentioned wanting to transfer his collection but not really sure how.




caitlyn -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 9:44:37 PM)

Onkyo TX-NR1000 receiver
Onkyo M-282 amplifier
Onkyo IL-DR348 cassette deck (which I have never turned on)
Philips HTS3555/37 DVD system, with iPod and MP3 included
Philips HTD1552.44 CD player/recorder
Dual CS455 turntable (which I can't honestly say I know how to use, and have had friends that say, "What the fuck is that?")
4x Klipsch Synergy III 8" 2-way woofer floor speakers
2x Klipsch Synergy III 6.5: 2-way bookshelf speakers (for the bathroom)
2x Rock HF15/RS850 8" 2-way waterproof outdoor speakers (for the balcony)
All hooked up to an Apple MacBook MB0611/A and the dorkiest but cool, Lamplust mood lights.
(Bragging: I can make all animals within five miles hide under the furniture with this system.)

I own no albums, but there are tons of them downstairs, belonging to the old folks ... and I do mean tons. They are all burned to CD, but they are highly useful for gathering lots of dust. The old guy says he may need them to clean his seeds some day, whatever that means. [;)]




popeye1250 -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 10:06:09 PM)

I have the Beatles "White Album" on 33 vinyl.
I wonder if it's worth anything?




OrangeJulius -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 10:06:58 PM)

Audacity is the best recorder/encoder that I've found, from there you just head down to radio shack and get a double male headphone jack, hook it from the headphone jack to the mic jack, and start recording. There's better ways, but that's the "hacky" easy way.

Also, they still make records of some electro and techno stuff. There's supposedly a lot of indie stuff on vinyl, but I don't listen to indie, so I can't say for sure. If you live in the chicago area, you can go to the virgin megastore and pick up some of the new stuff (it's in the basement). Beyond that though, you're stuck to the internet.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Vinyl? (7/11/2007 10:18:31 PM)

Like Katy, my "wasband" has everything.

Here's a good source for vinyl:  http://www.streetlightrecords.com/




wandersalone -> RE: Vinyl? (7/12/2007 12:04:47 AM)

I still have lots of records that I bought when I was a kid.  I don't have a record player at the moment but I am looking forward to dragging out all of my records when I do get a new one.  There was some discussion on a website for a band that I love about vinyl records and apparently 180grams is very good quality or something?! This particular band is actually planning to put out their back catalogue on vinyl which will be awesome and it seems that some bands are choosing to release vinyl for afficiondos.  There are a few good music stores here that have records still.




Masternslave07 -> RE: Vinyl? (7/12/2007 12:16:41 AM)

I have probably 500 records and listen to records almost every day.
I do buy new records, but most are used and I sometimes buy newer copies of old scratched records. I usually buy my records at Ameoba Music in Hollywood, but have discovered a cool record store recently closer to me in Lancaster.
I have a Denon 3200 surround receiver with Infinity Reference 2.5 fronts and Infinity WTLC surrounds and Infinity center channel.
My music listening is mainly records, and DVD Audio/Sacds in surround.




Sinergy -> RE: Vinyl? (7/12/2007 12:19:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

My ex has all of the vinyl.  And we had a huge collection.


"I want my records back"  Sam Kinison.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Vinyl? (7/12/2007 1:40:12 AM)

ORIGINAL: Level

quote:

Does anyone still listen to vinyl records?
  Yes

 
quote:

Why?
 Shrugs...memories? 

 
 
quote:

Where do you buy your music?
  Lou's Records in Encinitas. I can spend hours there. 5 buildings packed with Vinyl. Drool.

 
quote:

Do you ever buy any newer music on vinyl?
 Hot Topic often carries new vinyl 

 
quote:

 What type of stereo setup do you have?
A Sony turntable that is almost as old as I am. 

 
 
quote:

When is Level going to stop asking questions?
Great question...is there an answer?





Level -> RE: Vinyl? (7/12/2007 3:58:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: caitlyn

I own no albums, but there are tons of them downstairs, belonging to the old folks ... and I do mean tons. They are all burned to CD, but they are highly useful for gathering lots of dust. The old guy says he may need them to clean his seeds some day, whatever that means. [;)]


LOFL caitlyn [:D]




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