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masusub55 -> chastity question (7/12/2007 10:28:10 AM)

It seems whenever i am in chastity, that very soon my very submissive side  comes out. i become sappy, pathetic and hopelessly romantic and attentive. Do Experienced Dommes enjoy inducing this behavior or is it seen as too bothersome? Is this the building block an Experienced Domme uses to mold and condition behavior She desires in Her sub? It seems such a powerful tool and yet most new Dommes don't seem to have a clue about using or even beginning to understand this. Is it as simply used`as i seem to think or am i wrong? 




Trampler -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 11:19:36 AM)

I think that like with anything else, not everyone is into the same thing. Me: while I like it to some extent, definately not a consistant thing.  Mental Chastity, now THAT is control! ie: being instructed not touch yourself, even to the extent of sitting down to pee. :)





pixelslave -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 12:50:42 PM)

You might want to remember massusub that each D/s relationship is unique and has it's own dynamic.  What works for you and the Domme you serve may not work at all for another sub and the Domme he serves.  Some men get very anxious and depressed when confined in a chastity device. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image] 
 
That said, I do agree with Trampler that the ultimate control for a woman is to not need any device for a man to be able to remain chaste or not touch himself if that's what she desires, but that's just my personal opinion.  In my opinion, it's really a case of "to each their own", coupled with the fact that the dynamics of relationships change with time & experience. [&:]
 
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Politesub53 -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 2:47:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trampler

I think that like with anything else, not everyone is into the same thing. Me: while I like it to some extent, definately not a consistant thing.  Mental Chastity, now THAT is control! ie: being instructed not touch yourself, even to the extent of sitting down to pee. :)




So how do we aim Ma`am, even sitting down we have to do that.
[;)]




MistressSassy66 -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 3:03:55 PM)

I'm somewhat new I guess...and I dont use chastity devices.
I expect My submissives to have control of themselves,physical punishment for not
behaving is the way I deal with those issues.




Trampler -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 4:01:35 PM)

what you have to hold it, to pee? I'm no expert on male anatomy, but I am thinking men have a similiar muscle the pushes the pee out.  If I am wrong about that will have to re-think.  something like no more then 3 minutes in the bathroom, total.
Whoops, sorry politesub didn't read all of what you said. forgot about aiming. hmmmmmm




Politesub53 -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 4:32:01 PM)

Its all due to the angle of the dangle Ma`am [:D]




Trampler -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 4:33:16 PM)

*snorts laughing* gotcha ps. thanks




Politesub53 -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 4:42:08 PM)

Most welcome Ma`am.... < grins just a tad >




LadyPact -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 6:18:53 PM)

While I realize that My way isn't the way for everyone, I get a lot more satisfaction out of placing My submissive on masterbation restriction, rather than locking him in a chastity device.  Holding the key to a lock is a very tangible symbol that it belongs to Me, but holding the power that a submissive gives Me without the need for a physical restraint..... THAT is the greater control.  Much more the mental power that I want over My submissive.
 
As for the effects, I certainly agree that both give the desired results. 




Elorin -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 8:01:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
So how do we aim Ma`am, even sitting down we have to do that.
[;)]


Sit on the pot, spread your knees, and lean forward between them until the dangle angles into the porcelain bowl, then fire.

I'm sure you could figure it out, if your hands were tied behind your back and you were told "so go!" when you asked if you could use the restroom. Desperation is the damnedest teacher!!

~E




Trampler -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 8:09:56 PM)

hehehe thanks Elorin! **evil laughs**




littlesarbonn -> RE: chastity question (7/12/2007 11:55:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elorin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
So how do we aim Ma`am, even sitting down we have to do that.
[;)]


Sit on the pot, spread your knees, and lean forward between them until the dangle angles into the porcelain bowl, then fire.

I'm sure you could figure it out, if your hands were tied behind your back and you were told "so go!" when you asked if you could use the restroom. Desperation is the damnedest teacher!!

~E


Having been there, let me just say that it works great in theory, but not in practicality. What ends up happening a lot of the time is that once the urination starts, there's really no controlling the little guy's projectory if you're not holding him, so you end up with piss all over the bathroom. Yeah, it can be a humiliating thing if you want, but it's going to be this way practically every time he goes to the bathroom. Standing makes it easy for the natural direction to be down, but sitting really places the angle at almost horizontal so that no matter how much you think it's going to just drop down, it's usually not, is uncontrollable, and is kind of disgusting as a result. Whenever my hands were tied behind my back, usually I was led to the toilet to pee standing up because previous experience that she came across indicated this would be more useful.




Politesub53 -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 4:29:00 AM)

Ever seen a garden hose thats switched on and no one holding it ? Im telling you these things have a mind of their own [:D]

Although once again littlesarbonn expressed it better than i have. [;)]




pixelslave -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 9:32:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Ever seen a garden hose thats switched on and no one holding it ? Im telling you these things have a mind of their own [:D]

Although once again littlesarbonn expressed it better than i have. [;)]


LOL!  Sounds like a "hose holder" of some kind (living, or otherwise specially made for the job) would definitely be in order! [:D]
 
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ocilla -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 11:16:27 AM)

yall are cracking me up.  Ok back to the original intent of trampler's post - is just the moment of holding your pecker enough to aim your pee adequately, be in everyone's opinion, undermining chastity?  Now, I know everyone is different so I am looking for a general, vague guide/ rule rather than a consensus.  I tend to lean towards practicality and efficiency over control (yep an engineer of sorts)- if I have to be that micro controlling it is not as much fun for me....now I might enjoy playing at being that controling for a few hours - and actually have - but we used pixel's approach to take care of the aim - my aiming his pecker, while he peed  -  it definitely made for an interesting control dynamic - oh yeah made him use the tub instead of the toilet too.




ocilla -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 11:23:48 AM)

Oh yeah - orgasm control and chastity w/o devices was my first D/s instinctive action.   I have done this for years and did not know if was a part of the "lifestyle" till I started learning about the :lifestyle".  I would bet that most dominant women do in fact use this technique regularly.  It is a great way to test someone you are considering - starting off by making it a light request and seeing if they comply or if they disregard your request or do not take it seriously or convienently forget - that tells me a lot.  And too using this technique in the beginning especially I find a good initiation ritual that does bring about more docile and compliant behavior.




Politesub53 -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 11:28:27 AM)

Ma`am Ocilla, i was told any more than three shakes for drying purposes was considered masturbating. [;)]

Being serious, having to refrain mentally, even when afforded opportunity, does indeed help one to focus on his Mistress. Especially being teased without mercy then sent home, with Mistress knowing i wont lie when asked if i cheated. It certainly improves behaviour at the next meeting, wondering if one would be allowed to play.

i can see the feeling a Domina can get from being a keyholder, but knowing Your boy will refrain just on command must be just as much fun, if not more.




MistressSassy66 -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 5:50:46 PM)

To no one in particular...

I make them stand in the shower...
It washes off and can go all over the place with no mess
as its contained in the shower unit...the submissives can squat or stand.

Or if you really want to have fun make them sit down,then it goes all over them...lol





NefertariReborn -> RE: chastity question (7/13/2007 7:06:31 PM)

I'm using a "symbolic" chastity device with a new slave.  he's wearing a red ribbon (I insisted on it being red.) It stays on all the time except an hour or so per day for wash and dry purposes.  Though I can't "see" him 24/7, like politesub, he doesn't make a habit of lying.  During th first couple of days he found it irritating and would call and ask if he could take it off for 15 minutes or so and then put it  back on.  he doesn't do that anymore.  I find he's eager to please whether because he's hoping I'd say ok you can touch it (and I give a max amount of time - if he can't get off in that time, his problem) or he's it's just the "submissive nature."  Either way I enjoy Myself.  Which at the end of the day is the reason for this all.




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