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What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 10:33:40 AM   
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289179,00.html

a mother who was drunk when she delivered her child. the doctors tested the baby's blood alcohol levels and it was 6 times the legal limit. i mean what the hell has happened to people today
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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 10:43:35 AM   
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hmm- in the 80s crack mothers put their babies in garbage dumpsters.

that said- some of the most profound ppl on the planet have had to dance with drugs or alcohol.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 11:20:38 AM   
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I take it by the title that this thread is not ad hoc that article.

There are crack babies born every day, and I don't really know if that is worse. Different but is it worse ? I don't know.

Buddy of mine and his ex were potheads. They had agreed not to smoke since she was pregnant, he didn't except for one time she told him go ahead, it won't be long, something like that. But she wasn't supposed to do it. She was a liar.

The twins were born at a pretty light birth weight, of course tests were done. They found THC in the babies' blood. This somehow gave him legal problems, and our wonderful justice system gave custody of the kids to her in the subsequent divorce. She gave the wrong address so he wasn't even there and years later he has child support problems, even though she illegally moved far away. She had fallen out of love and he caught her cheating. But he still lost because she filed and he wasn't there.

The problem is people are incredibly weak in the mind. I knew a guy who literally sawed the copper plumbing out of his own house and scrapped it for drug money. Notice I said KNEW.

Perhaps the broad in the article misread it when they said a glass of red wine a day might be good for the health. She might've thought a glass meant a case. OK that is sarcastic, but people really are quite stupid. Not everyone who won a Darwin award last year was high or drunk.

I know the roots of what is wrong with people, but it would take way too long to explain. It starts in childhood and some can recover and some cannot.

"When you were a child you were treated kind but never brought up right, you were overjoyed with a thousand toys but still you cried all night, it's just your ninteenth nervous breakdown" by the Stones. Says it pretty well. Another good one out of that "Your Mother who neglected you owes a million dollars tax, and your Father's still perfecting ways of making sealing wax".

If the trend continues, those without obsessive compulsive disorder will be labelled stubborn. "They" already frown on people like me who do not take drugs.

I short, as short as I can make it, people are how they are because the powers that be want them be be that way. Their Parents did not have sufficient influence, or the substance of good influence to counteract all the negative influences in society. Not that this is easy, they would have to fight peer pressure, the TV, the schools and who knows what else. But many do not even try.

So this is what we got.

T

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 11:48:17 AM   
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She was drinking for two.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 12:17:06 PM   
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I do lab testing for a living, and you'd be amazed, even in a small rural community, how many mothers come in for both pre-natal testing and to deliver babies and they and the babies test positive for pot, cocaine, benzo's.....

With all the education and resources available, there's just no excuse whatsoever. 

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 2:54:13 PM   
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quote:

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289179,00.html

a mother who was drunk when she delivered her child. the doctors tested the baby's blood alcohol levels and it was 6 times the legal limit. i mean what the hell has happened to people today


Im guessing alcohol was involved.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 2:55:01 PM   
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wind, all the resources in the world do not work for those without common sense, and those with common sense do not need it.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 3:54:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dincubus

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289179,00.html

a mother who was drunk when she delivered her child. the doctors tested the baby's blood alcohol levels and it was 6 times the legal limit. i mean what the hell has happened to people today


dincubus:
You are a grown man were you not aware that there were fools in this world.  Now also consider the source...it is faux new do they have an agenda?  Is it sweeps week? I am sure you know people who smoke...is that not a high risk behaviour?  How about those who smoke while pumping gasoline into their cars?  Those who drive their cars drunk are not uncommon.  These are the same people who think that sky divers,motorcycle riders and surfers are "high risk" sports...go figure.
There are fools, damn fools and of course the terminally ignorant.
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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 4:07:10 PM   
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289179,00.html

a mother who was drunk when she delivered her child. the doctors tested the baby's blood alcohol levels and it was 6 times the legal limit. i mean what the hell has happened to people today


Well, just stopping for a moment, one woman is not "people".

It's fair to say, too, that there will always be irresponsible individuals.

Not surprisingly, the individual in this piece of news is not American.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 5:14:47 PM   
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How did I guess where the mother came from?

This is quite common. In fact it's not unheard of to go visit the doctor and find that the doctor is six times over the legal limit as well. I read the Polish media and you get stories like this every week. There was the Polish coach driver, for example, (drunk of course) who made a 300 mile journey in a packed coach in little over 2 hours (bear in mind we're talking narrow country roads and villages here, not motorways). Then there were the cops trying to catch an armed gunman who were so drunk they actually shot each other.

I think part of the problem might be something to do with the fact that there's been a long running problem with alcohol smuggling (spirits) from countries such as Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine - and we're talking the dangerous stuff. Some of it is fake - Jim Boom, Johnnie Waker, Absolut, and some of it has obscure names - Corn Law Vodka, Naked Mountains Irish Whiskey, Butch Gin, and so on. And so, a few years ago the Polish government decided it would solve the problem by reducing tax on sales of hard liquor. Now you can walk into any supermarket and buy a bottle of cheap vodka for as little as £3.

Then you have 'strong' beer, which started out at 7.2% alcohol, but which now can be as much as 11.8% alcohol.

Buying good wine in a 'Monopoly' (Polish liquor store) is impossible. For example:

Customer: "Can you recommend a good Italian wine?"
Assistant: "Yes, this one will blow your head off."

The wine importers in Poland are trying, it's a growing industry. But Poles just haven't quite got the concept of how a wine tastes or even the concept of drinking wine over dinner. All too often you turn up to someone's flat with a bottle of wine for dinner, as have all guests. You all sit down to dinner, you drink the wine, then more wine, and then more wine, and then a bottle of vodka is produced, and then another, and then someone comes out with a guitar, phone calls are made, other friends arrive, people start singing badly, then someone goes down to the gas station to buy another bottle of vodka (yes, gas stations in Poland sell alcohol), and I guess you can work out what happens next.

You can walk into any 'Monopoly' (liquor store) and ask for a 'cocktail', and the assistant will immediately produce for you a bottle of Polish wine - full of sulphur, chemicals, spirit alcohol, it doesn't taste very nice at all, but this isn't the big issue here, it is whether it does the business. And it does. One bottle you're okay, two even, three you're anybody's, and any more and you're everybody's. The secret is mixing it with beer - and I speak from personal experience - two cans of lager and a bottle of Polish wine can leave you very... horizontal.

Women's drinking habits don't really differ from the men. This is why all the liqueurs contain 40% alcohol, and even the fruit flavoured beer (marketed towards women) can be as strong as 7% alcohol. Drinking is socially acceptable, really.

I can remember having to teach generals in the former Polish army English and not long after having to quit this job because after two 90 minute lessons with Polish generals (who were all paralytic anyway) I myself wasn't in a fit state sometimes to even walk out of the building. Half the time half the generals were asleep anyway, three were apparently three of only six in Poland at the time who could speak any English but I never heard them being able to string a coherent sentence together. This was all pre-NATO, things have changed, but believe me, had the invasion of Iraq been left to this former Polish army some of them might have strayed as far as Turkey or Egypt and become quite pickled in the process.

It was the Poles who taught me everything I need to know about drinking alcohol, making alcohol, avoiding hangovers, sobering up and even (if I wanted to) avoid being breathalysed by cops if I was driving whilst over the limit. I know that you have to filter methylated spirits through a thick slice of bread before you can drink it. I know how to produce something alcoholic using just sugar, yeast, water and a bit of time.

So this is why I for one somehow guessed where this article came from and why I wasn't surprised to read it.    

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 5:17:57 PM   
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How did I guess where the mother came from?

This is quite common. In fact it's not unheard of to go visit the doctor and find that the doctor is six times over the legal limit as well. I read the Polish media and you get stories like this every week. There was the Polish coach driver, for example, (drunk of course) who made a 300 mile journey in a packed coach in little over 2 hours (bear in mind we're talking narrow country roads and villages here, not motorways). Then there were the cops trying to catch an armed gunman who were so drunk they actually shot each other.

I think part of the problem might be something to do with the fact that there's been a long running problem with alcohol smuggling (spirits) from countries such as Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine - and we're talking the dangerous stuff. Some of it is fake - Jim Boom, Johnnie Waker, Absolut, and some of it has obscure names - Corn Law Vodka, Naked Mountains Irish Whiskey, Butch Gin, and so on. And so, a few years ago the Polish government decided it would solve the problem by reducing tax on sales of hard liquor. Now you can walk into any supermarket and buy a bottle of cheap vodka for as little as £3.

Then you have 'strong' beer, which started out at 7.2% alcohol, but which now can be as much as 11.8% alcohol.

Buying good wine in a 'Monopoly' (Polish liquor store) is impossible. For example:

Customer: "Can you recommend a good Italian wine?"
Assistant: "Yes, this one will blow your head off."

The wine importers in Poland are trying, it's a growing industry. But Poles just haven't quite got the concept of how a wine tastes or even the concept of drinking wine over dinner. All too often you turn up to someone's flat with a bottle of wine for dinner, as have all guests. You all sit down to dinner, you drink the wine, then more wine, and then more wine, and then a bottle of vodka is produced, and then another, and then someone comes out with a guitar, phone calls are made, other friends arrive, people start singing badly, then someone goes down to the gas station to buy another bottle of vodka (yes, gas stations in Poland sell alcohol), and I guess you can work out what happens next.

You can walk into any 'Monopoly' (liquor store) and ask for a 'cocktail', and the assistant will immediately produce for you a bottle of Polish wine - full of sulphur, chemicals, spirit alcohol, it doesn't taste very nice at all, but this isn't the big issue here, it is whether it does the business. And it does. One bottle you're okay, two even, three you're anybody's, and any more and you're everybody's. The secret is mixing it with beer - and I speak from personal experience - two cans of lager and a bottle of Polish wine can leave you very... horizontal.

Women's drinking habits don't really differ from the men. This is why all the liqueurs contain 40% alcohol, and even the fruit flavoured beer (marketed towards women) can be as strong as 7% alcohol. Drinking is socially acceptable, really.

I can remember having to teach generals in the former Polish army English and not long after having to quit this job because after two 90 minute lessons with Polish generals (who were all paralytic anyway) I myself wasn't in a fit state sometimes to even walk out of the building. Half the time half the generals were asleep anyway, three were apparently three of only six in Poland at the time who could speak any English but I never heard them being able to string a coherent sentence together. This was all pre-NATO, things have changed, but believe me, had the invasion of Iraq been left to this former Polish army some of them might have strayed as far as Turkey or Egypt and become quite pickled in the process. Had the Iraqis saimply banned the sale of all alcohol and closed all the liquor stores this former Polish army would have been screwed. I'm told the Soviet Army was much worse.

It was the Poles who taught me everything I need to know about drinking alcohol, making alcohol, avoiding hangovers, sobering up and even (if I wanted to) avoid being breathalysed by cops if I was driving whilst over the limit. I know that you have to filter methylated spirits through a thick slice of bread before you can drink it. I know how to produce something alcoholic using just sugar, yeast, water and a bit of time.

So this is why I for one somehow guessed where this article came from and why I wasn't surprised to read it.    


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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 5:46:10 PM   
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hey i know that the person concerned was not american. I deal with enough of that kind of stuff considering i am Cherkoee indian. so i get the whole "indians are drunkards" all the time. it just pisses me off that women, be it drugs, alcohol or what ever drug do this to their babies

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 5:48:04 PM   
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People make me sick. I don't know how a woman could do that knowing she has a growing life inside her.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 5:48:10 PM   
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hey i know that the person concerned was not american. I deal with enough of that kind of stuff considering i am Cherkoee indian. so i get the whole "indians are drunkards" all the time. it just pisses me off that women, be it drugs, alcohol or what ever drug do this to their babies



Fair enough. I agree that it isn't exactly responsible.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/13/2007 11:37:00 PM   
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what's wrong with people is that no one either cares to take resposibility for their actions anymore or feels it is far easier to play the victim. our society is so bent on blaming someone else or something else for every little thing  rather than deal with the true problem, so now no one hardly ever will take resposibility for themselves. i see it all the time. the other problem is that if it is not nice or pretty it gets shoved aside and goes unrecognized as a problem because it is far too inconvienet to deal with. seriously the problem is our society and how we have handled thing in the past coming back to bite us in the ass in the present time.

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/14/2007 12:11:39 AM   
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i mean what the hell has happened to people today

Humans tampered with Evolution (better medical care, housing, etc. No more survival of the fittest).

Also, food isn't as scarce and parents don't eat their unviable young anymore.

Tough luck eh?



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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/14/2007 12:53:17 AM   
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This is a sad story but it is far from being an isolated case.
Some of my relatives have raised foster/adoptive unmentionables
who have birth defects caused by their mother abusing
drugs and alcohol.
 
 

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/14/2007 7:08:17 AM   
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it just pisses me off. Life... new life being carried inside one and they dont have the common sense or decency to put aside their own damn issues. I know i am not one whom should be calling the kettle black, cause i have my personal issues too, but hell ya know?

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RE: What the hell is wrong with people - 7/14/2007 7:13:31 AM   
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Y'all know how I feel about property rights and reproduction.... If some retard doesn't care enough about HER CREATION to stay clean and sober during the gestation, it ain't my problem.

Wait... That's unfair.

I shouldn't have used the phrase "retard".



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