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baileythorne -> RE: collaring a submissive (7/19/2004 9:10:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

Count me among those Masters that want a brand.



I attended a 30th wedding anniversary where both partners got the same brand. His wason his bicept. Hers was the center of her chest.

That is devotion. On both parts.

--bailey

p.s. I like the idea of etchings to. Or cuttings.



MzBerlin -> RE: collaring a submissive (7/20/2004 10:09:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: baileythorne

p.s. I like the idea of etchings to. Or cuttings.

*hope you don't mind, Bailey [;)]*
Sidenote to Voldemort- Listen to Bailey. She knows what she's talking about!!

Now, back to my post-
Hey, Y'all-
Since my last post I've had some time to really think about what a collar is to me at this point, what symbolism it holds. I see it as something beyond a wedding ring (which I hold great regard for) because it is beyond union. The whole M/s thing is irrelevant to me. Just titles. It's the action (and reaction) that is at the heart of the whole matter. In other words (that may or may not match the ones I just typed) I feel that a collar that represents a TPE is beyond any piece of leather or metal. As for play collars and all that, they would just be symbolism of my submission at that particular time. I don't really see a gray area between the play collars and THE collar. I see them as distinctly different.
Anyhoo- my opinion on this may change at any time as I learn more and more.
As Always
Berlin



atHisfeet -> RE: collaring a submissive (11/28/2004 12:07:17 AM)

great thread with much food for thought for me. and the etching (scarring even), wow does that give me something to think about.



sweetpettjenny -> RE: collaring a submissive (11/28/2004 1:23:39 PM)

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I ask because someone brought up this point to me (and i paraphrase):
collar=owned owned=slave

A collar can be worn by a submissive....she does not need to be in a Master/slave relationship...my question is ....when we start judging who can wear what and when ...why don't we all just live in "our" relationships and not worry about how or why "jane" got collared.



Nvernilla -> RE: collaring a submissive (11/28/2004 1:40:29 PM)

Well there are different ceremonies and views all over the world about this. I've heard different subs say there is an important destinction here and that a sub has more rights to protest their treatment than a slave. The conclusion I have always drawn is that this type of sub is not submissive. Too bad castle realm isnt there they had a lot on this subject. I tried to access it for the first time in a couple years and got sent to some porn site. For mine I require total submission but then sometimes am overly permissive...I use a bastrardized ceremony from some Gor book I read. It just seemed very proper to me...Mike



mistressblk -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/6/2007 7:07:12 AM)

I just wanted to say what a wonderful learning experience I have gotten from these discussion groups...May you all be blessed and be happy in yr relationships and life generally...I am a new Mistress looking to collar my slave which he is really looking forward to, we want to have a ceremony with witnesses, but dont know others in this lifestyle as we are pretty new to it as well. Any ideas, websites, or pointers wud be very appreciated, I have looked at the some like the ceremony of roses and wud love a small intimate ceremony...can I also add a short vacation to symbolise the committement for each other?..what do you good people out there think?....I look forward to hearing from one and all...



Celeste43 -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/6/2007 11:29:49 AM)

First, to Taggard. The op isn't new, just new to here. There are other sites you know.

To red - hi! I'm a collared sub. I don't like the word slave for me. As far as whether I'm deserving of a collar? God only knows. But he says I am and that's been good enough for me for over three years now so I guess I must be. Either that or his standards are just really lax :)

My problem with the levels of submission is that they include masochism in there, so you can't be a 9th level sub if you aren't a pain slut. Apples and oranges imo. How I get off sexually has not much to do with a personality trait.

But the person who told you this must have the one true manual. I'd love to read it, if you can get them to post it. 128 slave rules maybe?



valeca -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/6/2007 4:00:03 PM)

Uhh, Taggard's last reply was July 2004.  And before the one post made today, the most recent post was in Nov 2004.

Heh, not that it isn't a good topic, or anything...



MaryT -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/6/2007 4:17:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shrpcrvyrdhd
my response was that "ownership" means different things to different people and a Dominant's decision to collar is His/Hers alone and not dictated by any criteria but His/Her own. i could be wrong. i am very new.


I think you are right on.  The concept of ownership is explicit even in common marriage vows:  "To have and to hold ..."  More stringent definitions of what it means to be "owned" (a fictional concept in any *real* sense in the free world) is mostly crap, born of fantasy and the warped need to excel at subliness (or domliness) - IMNSHO. [:)]




bearincuffs -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/6/2007 5:58:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sleepydoll

I know I'm real late in my responce but I wanted to read A/all the replies.. and in doing so, I came up with a simular question.. What about "branding/tatting". Ive come across several Masters/Doms that preferre that over collaring. Any comments?? Please be kind as I am just a sub/slave/pet/newby..and still learning. Thanks



I know in my case once my Master has me in His House, He will have me wear a permanant collar of His choosing. W/we had been taking about tattos the other day and eventually He will have me acquire a tattoo which will be the symbol of His House.



goodpet -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/8/2007 8:00:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shrpcrvyrdhd

...still can't seem to pin down that mythical "One True Way" that some people like to pretend exists...lol...but then, what do i know? [;)]


What? Likes to "pretend" to exist? 

everyone knows that i have the one True way, i am one of the Real subs, and a True slave..  it exisits, right here...



mixielicous -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/8/2007 8:08:49 PM)

fast reply,

although i now ID as slave i was collared as a *submissive* by my *Dominant*

collar does not need to symbolize *owned* so much as *serious relationship*



Celeste43 -> RE: collaring a submissive (2/9/2007 7:54:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: goodpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: shrpcrvyrdhd

...still can't seem to pin down that mythical "One True Way" that some people like to pretend exists...lol...but then, what do i know? [;)]


What? Likes to "pretend" to exist? 

everyone knows that i have the one True way, i am one of the Real subs, and a True slave..  it exisits, right here...


I bid $10 for a copy of the manual. I never got mine.



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