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Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/15/2007 9:09:33 AM   
tag8833


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Status: offline 		Someone asked me how to do this in a message, and I thought it might be worth sharing with the whole forum. 

Ok, I originally learned how to do this from a diagram I found online.  I can't find the diagram, but its fairly simple, so I will try to describe it.

You will need: 1 electric fly swatter, 1 wire cutters, 1 roll electrical tape.
Step 1: The handle opens down the middle.  Try to do as little damage as possible when you open it.  The fly swatter I used opened this way to change batteries.
Step 2: Once the handle is open locate the point at which the contact wires attach to the Mechanism.  The key is half of the wires are +, and the other half are -.  you need to locate where the + all come together and the - all come together.
Step 3: Break the plastic hoop, and clip off all wires but one of the + and one of the -.
Step 4: Trim the remaining 2 wires to about 4 inches long.
Step 5: Loop each of the remaining wires back on itself, and electrical tape the base of it to maintain this loop.  This is because you don't want the contact point to be sharp. 
Step 6: Put the handle back together. 

Now you should have something that resembles a stun gun with 2 wires coming out of the top.  Idealy the wires will be fairly close together, but make sure they don't touch. 

Hopefully I explained this well enough.  If you didn't understand my description, tell me, and I will try to explain.
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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 12:13:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey there, sounds like an interesting idea....

I was just curious if there was any danger at all in the resultant prod? Or is the voltage (acutally I guess its the current thats the more important?) low enough in an electric fly swatter that its never even going to be close to being harmful to humans?

Cheers for the instructions
wolf

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 4:27:01 AM   
tag8833


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Status: offline 		An electric fly swatter produces a static electricity shock like you might get when you touch a doorknob after walking across carpet in socks. Unless you have an extremely major heart condition, a little static electricity isn't going to harm anyone.
 
Mine uses 2 AA batteries.  That isn't enough power to hurt anyone.  If the shock is too painful, you can always replace one of the batteries with a piece of wood wrapped in Tin foil.
 
Turning it into a prod makes it no stronger, it just allows you to aim a little easier.

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 4:34:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Funny, i had been planning to do an Instructable on this, i just haven't had any spare time lately...

Just FYI, there are a few different models out there from a few different companies... they all function the same, they're just assembled somewhat differently. i used one from Harbor Freight ($3.99 on sale! w00t!), which disassembled with a couple of tiny Phillips-head screws, at which point you just cut the leads from the body to the wiring grid, then lift off the grid- no glued joints the break or cut. Very convenient.

These are high voltage, miniscule current devices- basically, a pair of 1.5v household batteries (AA to C, depending on source), run through a capacitor to up the voltage. The odds of causing cardiac arrest or similar by using one of these as a toy is essentially nil. However, when i did mine i cut the wires to points to increase the sting, and they will actually leave little burn spots in the skin on fresh batteries... looks a bit like a rash, not unlike the results of being kneaded by a cat who refuses to have her claws clipped. Using larger electrodes (soldering the output wires to a pair of brass screws, for example) will reduce this, and give a "deeper" jolt. It's easy to experiment with electrode size and spacing to find a result you like.

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 4:41:50 AM   
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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 7:50:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been looking EVERYWHERE for one (or more.. heh heh heh) of these things.. Walgreens actually came up in a different post, although none of the ones I've been to carry them.. I can't find a "Harbor Freight" around here anywhere... any New Englander/Mainers have any luck finding them?

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 7:04:57 PM   
trj


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Status: offline 		Tag,

Is this the set of diagrams/pics you were thinking of?

http://www.geocities.com/brahma_finland/fly.htm

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 7:37:37 PM   
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Tag,

Is this the set of diagrams/pics you were thinking of?

http://www.geocities.com/brahma_finland/fly.htm

No, but those diagrams are just as good as the ones I learned from.

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/16/2007 10:21:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hate to take a perfectly good flyswatter, that can be used for pesky flies or pesky subbies and cut it apart. You can get the same kind of voltage stepup from the flash on a used single-use-camera.  <<http://www.instructables.com/id/ETUROAHF06CXMW3/>>
And those can be free if you sweet talk the photo developer.

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/17/2007 3:54:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: instynctive

I've been looking EVERYWHERE for one (or more.. heh heh heh) of these things.. Walgreens actually came up in a different post, although none of the ones I've been to carry them.. I can't find a "Harbor Freight" around here anywhere... any New Englander/Mainers have any luck finding them?

Here you go!  $1.99 even!

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=swatter&Submit=Go


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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/17/2007 4:13:16 PM   
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Here you go!  $1.99 even!

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=swatter&Submit=Go



Ohhh.. thank You thank You thank You!!!

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/17/2007 8:39:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: instynctive

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

Here you go!  $1.99 even!

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=swatter&Submit=Go



Ohhh.. thank You thank You thank You!!!

Can W/we adopt You now? :-D




Oh yes!  Does that mean you'll be my Daddy?

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/18/2007 3:57:23 AM   
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Oh yes!  Does that mean you'll be my Daddy?


Now there's an interesting proposition...

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/23/2007 8:43:10 AM   
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I went to Harbor Freight and picked up 11 of them...1 for Mrs. Crush and 10 to pass on to those that might want them for my cost & shipping.   I did get them at about $4 (incl tax it was $4.04) and will sell them for that plus shipping (envelopes, postage)  to anyone that wants one. 

Just send me a note via CM if you'd like one.

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/23/2007 3:38:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have to look at this more i do a lot of electro play have to see what i can do with this :) just another toy to have fun with :)

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/23/2007 5:30:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the Information sent the directions to my friend who was planning to work on his and when hes done maybe I let him work on mine ! Sad Kitty Not so Sad

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/26/2007 6:49:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		It should be remembered that ANY battery powered device is DC (Direct Current). That means there is NO modulatin to the current like AC. I once burned a hole into my finger with a wirie that was only attached to the positive end of AA-cell battery. This device gets it's strength from channeling the voltage through the fine wires of the device.  The jolt would be somewhat deluded  if it were channeled through a thicker medium, like the heavy metal  prods  of a cattle prod. The thicker the transfer  contact, the more deluded the jolt.. 

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/26/2007 8:24:51 AM   
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It should be remembered that ANY battery powered device is DC (Direct Current).

That isn't entirely true.  Alot of devices convert between AC and DC.

Also, an electric fly swatter doesn't work like you seem to think it does.  It works by charging a capacitor and releasing that charge.  It doesn't just connect you to the live current.  The released charge has more power than a direct connection to the 2 AA batteries that power it.  So it releases in an instant, but then takes time to rebuild its charge.  If you kept it engaged, there would be plenty of "modulatin to the current". 

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 7/26/2007 9:40:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LoRee

It should be remembered that ANY battery powered device is DC (Direct Current). That means there is NO modulatin to the current like AC.



While this is true of the power source, a device can convert DC to AC (and vice~versa)

AC power gives the bite that so many think of when dealing with electric play.  DC can be more dangerous because it doesn't shock you the way AC does, but can be just as dangerous.  Because DC doesn't cause the muscles to flex the way AC does, a person will often clamp down and hold onto a DC power source, their grip getting tighter as the power runs thru them. 

This is why DC can be more dangerous then AC.

The good news is that most devices that raise the voltage do so my converting to AC. (it is difficult to convert a DC voltage to a higher voltage without it going to AC in the process).  DC power can not go thru a transformer.  Look at the device and if you see a transformer on it, the odds are really good you have a DC-to-AC invertor as part of the circuit.  Converting low level current drains to AC realy is not hard as you can simply pulse the DC into a transformer and have an AC waveform on it's output.

* Disclaimer:  For legal reasons, please assume I have no clue what I am talking about.  I do not suggest anyone ever touch bare electric circuits as even small amounts of electricity can be harmful or fatal.  I assume no risk from any use of the information above.  At the same time, I can tell you I love playing with a violet wand.  I especially like the buzz when it touches skin..

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RE: Turning a Electric Fly swatter into a prod - 8/31/2007 2:57:27 PM   
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