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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:44:51 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		It's always extremely interesting when we look at the sides we wonder about. I hope the mindfuck was worth the charity money! ;-)

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:57:39 AM   
chellekitty


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Good job! I hope somebody took pictures! 


pictures? i was hoping for a video

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 8:15:18 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		A few thoughts

I called what I did "bottoming" because while my ego is fairly rugged, it isn't bulletproof.  It wouldn't have changed the experience if I had called it submitting, or slaving.  My reactions were my reactions and just like many of us here object to calling submission a "gift" because you either feel it or you don't, it doesn't matter what you call that feeling, you either get it or you don't.

Some have stated that I couldn't use this experience to judge how I would take to being dominated but I must disagree.  One of the things I am proud of is my self awareness and my ability to detect small blips of emotion and reaction.  Not only that but the woman I did this with is someone I would trust to do anything in a space that almost feels like a second home.  When I say I got no charge, I mean I got no charge.

Now I HAVE met female dominants who evoked submissive feelings but one became my mentor and the other I can't recall who she was but I swear there was another.  Older, very VERY experienced, graceful, and elegant women was the pattern but those feelings were many years ago.  Now while she doesn't evoke submissive feelings, my current partner is a dominant woman who submits to me but our energy together is such that I have let her GENTLY play with my cock and balls with a wirtenburger wheel and as part of her training, I had a pro-domme I know give her tips on flogging using me as the test dummy.  However, I made it clear she was next...

As for pictures, they are pretty boring because there is no wax.  I actually asked for them and they made a great show of taking them but didn't bother.  Pictures of mindfucks just don't work!

Lastly, thanks for all the positive comments.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 9:36:19 AM   
Grlwithboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

A few thoughts

I called what I did "bottoming" because while my ego is fairly rugged, it isn't bulletproof.  It wouldn't have changed the experience if I had called it submitting, or slaving.  My reactions were my reactions and just like many of us here object to calling submission a "gift" because you either feel it or you don't, it doesn't matter what you call that feeling, you either get it or you don't.

Some have stated that I couldn't use this experience to judge how I would take to being dominated but I must disagree.  One of the things I am proud of is my self awareness and my ability to detect small blips of emotion and reaction.  Not only that but the woman I did this with is someone I would trust to do anything in a space that almost feels like a second home.  When I say I got no charge, I mean I got no charge.

Now I HAVE met female dominants who evoked submissive feelings but one became my mentor and the other I can't recall who she was but I swear there was another.  Older, very VERY experienced, graceful, and elegant women was the pattern but those feelings were many years ago.  Now while she doesn't evoke submissive feelings, my current partner is a dominant woman who submits to me but our energy together is such that I have let her GENTLY play with my cock and balls with a wirtenburger wheel and as part of her training, I had a pro-domme I know give her tips on flogging using me as the test dummy.  However, I made it clear she was next...

As for pictures, they are pretty boring because there is no wax.  I actually asked for them and they made a great show of taking them but didn't bother.  Pictures of mindfucks just don't work!

Lastly, thanks for all the positive comments.


I've always looked at it this way. If I got something out of it, I got something out of it. I don't get the buzz and fulfillment of "service" or "pleasing" that a submissive personality does, but we've all got brains and they all have chemistry and they all experience fear or pain or trepidation or "wtf" and chemicals go forth and make us react however they do. In other words, I'm not going to get what a sub or a hard core maso gets out of it - but I'm probably going to get *something* out of it - the indefinable value of having an experience. Period.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 10:16:12 AM   
PlayfulOne


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Status: offline 		Having fun with it was what you were supposed to do,  .

I will say as Rover mentioned there is a huge difference between playing bottom and offering submission.  The spaces and reactions are not nearly the same.  even though we started our relationship as M/s I always knew my partner had a more Dominant side (funny thing, her mentor before that noticed the same thing but didn't have enough patientce to let her find it).  As we started making the transition to a Dominant couple I bottomed for her to allow her to learn and become comfortable.  Having a conversation about it one day she started laughing and said "Your a terrible bottom, you still act Dominant". 

So taking that to heart I made a committment to submit to her the next time we took things there.  HUGE difference in the ractions both mental and physical.  She blistered my backside with a shoe, and I can tell you right off if I had been playing bottom it would have never gotten that far before I said ok I'm done.  But once I had given myself over to her I wanted to go with it, I wanted to give to her.

Being a bottom and submitting are similar int eh same qway being a top and actualy being a Dominant are.  It was a real revelation for me, but then again I would never had done it for anyone beside her.

K



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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 11:58:02 AM   
robertolapiedra


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Status: offline 		Hello SimplyMichael. Great posts! It is worth repeating that a dominant can be taught by a submissive, learn neat stuff and later have delightful "insights".

I used  to "bottom" to one submissive, when I was much younger. I can't say that I enjoyed the mind fuck aspect very much. I can say I enjoyed what I got from it from an "educational" point of view...........ok, I'll admit to having enjoyed being severely bitten a few times (what a surprise! when a little fear gets in the mix, right?) RL.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 12:03:22 PM   
hejira92


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

All together now;

At first we were afraid, we were petrified
Kept thinking we could never live if You had a submissive side
We spent oh so many nights thinking You were such a Dom
Were we wrong? The title of Your post shattered the calm

And now we read and swallow fast
Expectation that You've fallen leaves us all aghast
Were we just simple fools to believe, was it all just fantasy?
Could it be for just one second You had escaped reality?

Come on now please, please say it isn't so
Just turn around now, cause we just can't take the blow
Weren't You the one we always looked on to be strong
Did You know we'd crumble if it proved that we were wrong

Oh no not You, You did survive
As long as You know how to Dom our hopes remains alive
You've got commands You've yet to give
Your Domination gets to live

You did survive
You did survive 

Yea Yea Yea

chia* (the pet)


I was about to add my 2 cents - thank you for sharing this, you were brave and I loved the mindfuck part, when I read this post and spit up all over my computer! I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Thank you both. I needed that!

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 1:24:11 PM   
slaveofKaos


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Status: offline 		I love your story thanks so much. I think the idea of the hot water instead of wax was genious, and the fact that you had no idea you still had the same responce you would have and thats great, but on the other hand it would have ben a lot of fun to hear how it felt taking the was off your ass crack nd balls hehe

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 1:51:21 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Michael, thanks for sharing all of this.  It was a very interesting read.  What a win/win situation.  You got something out of it, the charity got something out of it,  Who can ask for more that that?
 
I'm in complete agreement with you that bottoming doesn't necessarily bring forth feelings of submission.  If it did, I'd probably list Myself as a switch, rather than a Dominant.  There is a difference between the two, and like you, I am very aware of it, as well as Myself.  It doesn't mean that nothing is gained.  Certainly perspective from the other side, and great opportunity for learning.  I'm glad you came from this experience seeing that.

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 2:26:43 PM   
SleeplessGypsy


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Status: offline 		Wow... That was the the best post I think I've ever read from you...
Thanks for sharing Your experience, I'm kinda in awe here..

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 2:42:51 PM   
Donnalee


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Status: offline 		I appreciate you sharing your experience of the evening and your thoughts afterwards.  How very interesting. 

I wonder how you look at the mindfuck part of it now (in the quiet, after all the hoop-a-la)....do you get a good laugh out of it and/or how does it play on your ego to have been so fooled in front of so many people?  Was there an element of humiliation for you, and if so what was that like?

I was thinking that on one level, the bottoming was in submitting to her choices...which was a very generous decision to offer up for auction.....you had no clue what would happen within your limits.  That's a big one.  After you figured you could handle her choice..the wax..and just had to endure it, you found no special joy in the bottoming.

So then what happens when you find out that what you'd sussed out as the ordeal wasn't really over?  If I weren't submissive, that part of it would've toasted my ass crack.  :)

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 2:49:03 PM   
MamaDomme


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Status: offline 		Michael, I really do appreciate your posting this experience........ and I truly enjoyed the chuckle I got from your mindfuck!

Keep the good stuff coming~~~~

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 3:37:07 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Donnalee,

Great questions!  To cover my ass I had a friend with a pocket full of cash in case I wanted to be "bailed out" and didn't want to go to someone who would take real advantage of my generosity.

quote:

  do you get a good laugh out of it and/or how does it play on your ego to have been so fooled in front of so many people? 


I got a great laugh out of it and due to who did the mindfuck and how well she did it doesn't make me feel like an idiot.  For me, I know it takes BIGGER balls to do what I did than to stand around and pronounce you would "never" do it.

quote:

 Was there an element of humiliation for you, and if so what was that like?
  It helped that when everyone was laughing at me I thought it was because they were laughing at the pain ahead.  If I had know I was being mocked I don't know how I would have taken it.


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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 3:44:01 PM   
LightHeartedMaam


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Status: offline 		Sounds like the time I witnessed a "branding" with a frozen branding iron :)  All that screaming and to find nothing there, after the fact. LOL

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 5:29:56 PM   
LadyHeart


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Status: offline 		It must be something in the air. I am snorting with laughter, as my Master bottomed for me this week, for the first time in three years, as I wanted a guinea pig to try out a new violet wand. He allowed me to partially restrain him (only partially, he's too "Dom" to even allow full restraint) and had worked himself up into a right state before I even came near him with it. The first time I touched him, he screamed - it wasn't even turned on. He twitched and sqwarked and carried on like a pig at the slaughter house. I tried a gag but that made him panic even more and he threatened to be sick. By the time the scene was over I had tears of laughter running down my cheeks and he was a total mess. 

It was only afterwards that the learning kicked in. The first point was that I gave him very inadequate aftercare, not realizing that he had gone into subspace. It wasn't until I realized that he was pale and shaking that I twigged to what was going on and wrapped him up and sorted him out. It had never occurred to me that someone could be so far gone on so little - he basically mindfucked himself. The other revelation was when it occurred to me that at no point had he been aroused. I can inflict real pain on a submissive, but it excites them. It had the opposite effect on poor Master.

So, for all those who say that there is a subby hidden in every Dominant - no, I don't think so. But switching roles can be very revealing, as Michael points out. Well done, Michael, Master would be the first to pin a medal on you!

:))
LH

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 7:51:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		chia - since no one else commented I will ante up.  Nice bit of cheek there fella - quite creative, tuneful, spicy and silly - kind of like you. ;-)

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 8:25:49 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ocilla

chia - since no one else commented I will ante up.  Nice bit of cheek there fella - quite creative, tuneful, spicy and silly - kind of like you. ;-)


Dear Ms. Ocilla,

Thank You Ma'am, actually, hejira92 apparently spit all over Her computer
in recognition of my diddy previously. But i graciously accept the compliment
from both of You alike.

For myself, as a submissive, i follow the writings and words of certain Dominants
as much as possible, holding a great degree of respect for Them. SimplyMichael
is one of Those whom i enjoy hearing points of view from. While sipping my
morning coffee i took note of the title of the post, and then the Author of such.

my heart sank a bit and i thought to myself, no please, not Michael, not a bottom!
Needless to say, after reading the full post, i realized i had been victim to my own
"mindfuck", as Michael remained a Dom, dear to my head and heart. (Thank You)

i immediately rose from sullen seriousness, to my usual silly insanity, thus my little
song of survival. All is well, SimpleMichael is still "simply" Michael, a most
respected Dominant in this submissives eyes and heart. A new and greater
understanding that sometimes in order to appreciate another, we need walk a
moment in their shoes, breathe the air they breathe, and taste the delicious
temptations of their desires.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 8:36:40 PM   
lighthearted


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Status: offline 		thanks for posting your experience, it was interesting and entertaining

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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 8:52:34 PM   
heartcream


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Status: offline 		hi SimplyMichael, always nice to see you here or in da chats. i like you new signature too. i am loving all these dominant men being so conscious and loving. very excellent chick flick vibes and content.

ahh how cool, your story. i like the woman using hot water instead of real wax, makes me want to hug her. and you not knowing heheheehe well done is right.

*looks at nail beds and then polishes them on chest, while sighing -because i am a very opinionated and powerful woman. okay. maybe just opinionated.




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RE: I bottomed last night, interesting night - 7/16/2007 10:27:40 PM   
Mystique567


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Status: offline 		Thank you for sharing your experience

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