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goddessAVA -> Castration (7/17/2007 7:00:40 AM)

I cannot believe how many requests I get from young attractive men to cut their dicks off.  The same boys will mail me, and probobly every other Domme on this forum OVER and OVER.
Yes I know they would probobly not do this if push came to shove, however I have played with some who had elected to be chemically castrated.  I do mock castration sessions all the time where I hold a knife, scapel, razor to my toys balls and tell him this is the last completion he will ever have-his balls are going to be sliced open and popped out like grapes!  I even have one boy who claims he went through with it.  Outside of the wanting attention motivation, what do you think the desire for this extreme sacrifice is?  Anyone else have experience with this?




Trampler -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 7:37:41 AM)

i had done a thread on this a while back.  I don't really get it.  I mean (even if I don't have sex with him.) Why would I want to take away my favorite body part to tease?  I suspect some males feel guilty for being males, and want to do away with the most offending body part.  As 1 guy explained to me, he said that his sexual drive was so over the top, he couldn't concentrate on his submission. So by taking that away, he would be able to.  I can kind of understand that, but I think if a sub really wants to go thru with it, It should be with someone who loves them for who they are inside, and is willing to emotionally support them thru the ordeal.  And I definately think it should be done by a doctor, in a doctors office!




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 7:52:49 AM)

Simply tell them you are not a body mod specialist and to look up a respected body mod specialist and have it done.

Master Fire




MHOO314 -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 9:12:45 AM)

Attention and wanking material.




goddessAVA -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 9:38:58 AM)

actually, I usually forward the message to my lawyer-I do not want any parts of the liability that might be involved.  However, I do find it somewhat fascinating since that is my favorite part of the male anatomy.




earthycouple -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 9:57:59 AM)

you forward messages about castration to your lawyer?  interesting to say the least.....




Grlwithboy -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 10:35:26 AM)

There's a big difference between a guy who fantasizes about this as a sacrifice to a Domme, etc. and a guy who considers this as a body mod or a fetish or a desire in and of itself. There are eunuchs who want to be eunuchs and are glad they went through with it - it's a very complicated issue beyond FemDom parameters.





mstrjx -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 10:56:53 AM)

Think of the lovely trophy case you could have on display.

You give a brief tour.  'And THIS one......'.

Just a thought.

Jeff




bschwimmer -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 2:13:05 PM)

ava saw your pics woow you are hot . Of course they would offer themselves to you as the ultimate sacrifice and tribute




goddessAVA -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 2:17:54 PM)

yes, my lawyer is very kinky, but then aren't all lawyers perverts?




tag8833 -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 4:40:11 PM)

If you want to understand castration, you can find all sorts of enthusiasts here: http://www.eunuch.org/main/
 
That site scared me away from joining a BDSM community for quite a while.




Aimtoplease101 -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 5:37:24 PM)

I would hazard to guess that 99% + of these are just fantasies that are being indulged, with no real intent to go forward.

Castration is viewed as an extreme surrender of male power, and thus an extreme form of submission and sacrifice.  It may appeal to some in terms of a powerful fantasy, but very, very few would have the balls to go forward with it (pun intended).

Regards, ATP




LadyHeart -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 7:47:22 PM)

I've received my share of those emails as well, but there have been a couple of them that sounded very sincere amongst the dozens that didn't have that ring of authenticity. It doesn't float my boat, but after years of working with people with fetishes, it no longer shocks or offends me. The only thing that does disturb me is that if someone went ahead with it to "serve" a particular Dominant, then it might create an unhealthy situation between them in the event of their relationship collapsing. The potential for guilt trips would be huge. For that reason alone, I would avoid working with someone who wanted castrating. It's bad enough when someone has a brand or a tattoo on behalf of a particular Dominant, but castration...? That could be a real worry.

:))
LH




goddessAVA -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 8:06:42 PM)

I always seem to agree 100% with you. The real thing is to extreme for me but the mock castration sessions are fun I have to admit, although they are always based on punishment.  I was shocked by the fellow who was chemically castrated, he did it for a former domme and the relationship did not work out-chastity yes but forced impotence-I am not so sure.  I can see theDommes side however-complete surrender and focus on her-maybe a mock castration scene first in the session then total focus on me would be hot. hmmmmmmm




jflynn -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 8:10:08 PM)

It's a weird little fantasy, and quite frankly I don't get it.  I'm trans and know many other trans folks, and as a result most of us are chemically castrated due to hormones, and some get an Orchiectomy pre-GRS due to wanting to stop testosterone production without having to use drugs. 

I think a lot of these guys wanting to be castrated for the sake of their fantasy just don't get what comes with castration (Chem or Surgical).. The hormone induced mood swings, weight gain, and in many cases, a near lack of a sex drive, or urge to be sexual.  They just want wank fantasies.  Ick.




DSwriter -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 9:42:27 PM)

Castration is a theme in early Greek mythology.  Among the first Greek myths is the story of the Mother Earth Goddess, Gaea, castrating her first mate Uranus (for locking up her children). This myth was representative of the fact that early society back around 3000 BC was matriarchal.  The fact that women gave birth/life gave them power - women ruled the family ... lines of decent were traced through women ... the female Moon Priestess chose a male king once a year, and at the end of that year killed him and chose another mate.

In mythology the male gods eventually took over, just as they did in society.  But even in classical Greek (c. 400 BC) the men had vague memories of the fact that women once ruled.  Which is the kind of thing that gave rise to the myth of the Amazons.  The Amazons were in the marble frieze on the Parthenon - right alongside various other monsters.  To the Greeks, an armed warrior woman - was terrifying!  A monster to their way of thinking.  Which is why they kept their women locked away - the Greeks knew what Gaea had done to Uranus, and had certain subconcious fears about women.

These myths, according to Freud, gave rise to his "fear of castration" theory.  Freud claimed every man fears being castrated and emasculated by women.

This is probably at the root of why subs request castration.  It's the ultimate emasculation by a woman.  It makes cuckolding a male look like Sesame Street. 

I'm betting most men who fantasize about it, don't really want to go through with it.  It's just a submissive fantasy.  And if they do want to go through with it, they're focusing only on the single moment of losing their testicles - not on the ramifications to their body or their future sex life. 

I met someone once who had gotten a male sadist to perform castrate him.  The poor guy experienced exactly the type of after affects that jflynn describes, weight gain, loss of muscle mass, lack of sex drive, impotence...  This person now takes testosterone supplements and will be on them the rest of his life. 

He admitted it was the mistake of his life.  Forget about having kids.  Forget about women wanting to marry you - if they want kids.  It's not like they grow back...




LadyHeart -> RE: Castration (7/17/2007 10:24:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DSwriter
I'm betting most men who fantasize about it, don't really want to go through with it.  It's just a submissive fantasy.  And if they do want to go through with it, they're focusing only on the single moment of losing their testicles - not on the ramifications to their body or their future sex life. 


I think that's another of the most worrying aspects of it - if it's the focus of all a man's fantasies and he actually goes through with it - he can only do it once....

:))
LH




MisPandora -> RE: Castration (7/18/2007 12:00:35 AM)

Yeah, guys have approached me for lots of bizarre shit, from crushing small animals, forcing them to eat entrails, nullifying them, to BBQing them and feeding them to my friends.  Sorry, I don't go there.  Some things are better left in the fantasy realm.  The gay fellows down in the carolinas who were arrested a year or two ago and prosecuted for the real castration probably agree.  And that one WAS consented to.....




thetechnoid -> RE: Castration (7/18/2007 5:57:43 AM)

i would have to agree that any guy asking to be castrated by a Dom or suggesting it as some supreme sacrifice is either fantacy based or totally off his rocker.  How could you do that to a Dommie.  Make HER take that responsibility.  what if you change your mind later and realize it was a mistake.  here She did you a favor and now you hold her responisble for it.  If a slave wants to become an eunuch, and there are many of us that do, they should take that on themselves and preferably prior to resuming a relationship based on this.

Its totally unfair to the Dommie.  If the Dommie allows this for Her slave, the slave should seek this out without assistance.  http://www.sexchangeasia.com and other clinics around the world provide a safe environment for this.  There are 2 rather large (during errections) arteries in the penis.  if it is wacked off, there is no getting behind them to pinch them off either.  The testicles also have arteries.  this is not minor surgery like trimming a hang nail and it is not like getting a hair cut.


But yes, there are over 7,000 stories on eunuch.org website and i wrote a few of them.  there is an extensive message board.  if you have this as a fantacy, you will find understanding there.  if you really choose this as your life, please consider that this is YOUR decission.  if you view this as a sacrifice in any way, i guarantee you will regret doing it.





thetechnoid -> RE: Castration (7/18/2007 6:00:41 AM)

Ok i could not resist.  We have this dommie and her castrated, slave, husband getting a divorce.  Here they stand before the Judge in the Schedule A portion arguing over the estate and this bottle of balls comes up ............




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