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And now... the news. - 7/18/2007 4:21:54 AM

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WASHINGTON - If Senate Democrats could enact their plan for Iraq, how many American troops would remain there?

That’s not a question to which Democratic leaders gave a precise answer Tuesday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19811593

WASHINGTON - Al-Qaida is using its growing strength in Pakistan and Iraq to plot attacks on U.S. soil, heightening the terror threat facing the United States over the next few years, intelligence agencies concluded in a report unveiled Tuesday.

At the same time, the intelligence analysts worry that international cooperation against terrorism will be hard to sustain as memories of Sept. 11 fade and nations’ views diverge on what the real threat is.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13435571

At 10 a.m. on April 4, 2001, representatives of 13 environmental groups were brought into the Old Executive Office Building for a long-anticipated meeting. Since late January, a task force headed by Vice President Cheney had been busy drawing up a new national energy policy, and the groups were getting their one chance to be heard.

Cheney was not there, but so many environmentalists were in the room that introductions took up "about half the meeting," recalled Erich Pica of Friends of the Earth. Anna Aurilio of the U.S. Public Interest Group said, "It was clear to us that they were just being nice to us."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19817580

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - School leaders in a southern New Mexico district will not face federal sanctions for allowing a high school project on racism in which students posted signs reading "Whites Only" and "People of Color" above water faucets, federal officials said.

But the Truth or Consequences school district will have to implement procedures for addressing racial harassment claims and offer lessons about racial harassment to students and staff, the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19814291

HONG KONG - Hong Kong's top court rejected a ban Tuesday on public gay sodomy, another victory for the Chinese territory's gay rights movement.

The case stemmed from the prosecution of two men who acknowledged committing sodomy in a car parked on an isolated road at night, the ruling said. Public gay sex was a crime with a maximum penalty of five years in prison.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19814491

When health care is rationed, the results can be heartrending.

Such a story makes for one of the most compelling episodes in "Sicko," Michael Moore's documentary about the dysfunctional U.S. health care system. In the film a Kansas woman named Julie Pierce tells of the death of her husband, Tracy, after their insurance company refused to approve a bone marrow transplant to treat his advanced kidney cancer.

While the tale is enormously sad, it conveys a totally inaccurate impression of what we need to fix health care in America.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19748368

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RE: And now... the news. - 7/18/2007 4:47:15 AM

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When health care is rationed, the results can be heartrending.

Such a story makes for one of the most compelling episodes in "Sicko," Michael Moore's documentary about the dysfunctional U.S. health care system. In the film a Kansas woman named Julie Pierce tells of the death of her husband, Tracy, after their insurance company refused to approve a bone marrow transplant to treat his advanced kidney cancer.

While the tale is enormously sad, it conveys a totally inaccurate impression of what we need to fix health care in America.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19748368

I've got to agree with the writer of the article, not even a national health service would have treated this person. Transplant organs are in short supply and someone who is so seriously ill with little prospect of recovery would not be in the queue. Even with universal healthcare, tough decisions have to be made, there is only so much money to go round.

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RE: And now... the news. - 7/18/2007 7:38:34 AM

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...however, universal health care might make the allocation of donor organs less dependent on income and more predicated by need......

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RE: And now... the news. - 7/18/2007 7:45:36 AM

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...however, universal health care might make the allocation of donor organs less dependent on income and more predicated by need......

What other way can one make an ethical decision other than based on clinical need, the chances of recovery and the life expectancy of the receiving patient in a universal health care system?

Until there is a surplus of organs, we mightn't like it but someone is making the hard decisions and choosing who receives an organ and who doesn't.

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RE: And now... the news. - 7/18/2007 7:48:31 AM

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...however, universal health care might make the allocation of donor organs less dependent on income and more predicated by need......

What other way can one make an ethical decision other than based on clinical need, the chances of recovery and the life expectancy of the receiving patient in a universal health care system?

Until there is a surplus of organs, we mightn't like it but someone is making the hard decisions and choosing who receives an organ and who doesn't.

...i don't disagree, but without universal health care of some sort....people who need transplants but don't have the requisite insurance aren't in the frame.

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