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NefertariReborn -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/25/2007 8:50:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KimochiTenshi

I love Amy Tan. =] She's a more contemporary author, but she really writes from a very personal perspective about how cultures clash and try and mesh together... her mother is Chinese, and they moved here when Amy was a little girl, so the great culture wars are something that hits home for her. She's also a very eloquent writer, but not so high and mighty (Like T.S. Eliot) that it turns you off.

The Joy Luck Club is her most famous book, but my favorite one is The Bonesetter's Daughter. I started reading it and couldn't stop. ^^; She's my favorite, y'all should check her out.


She's fantastic.  Let Me see if I have the title correct, you can correct Me if I'm wrong.  The Kitchen God's something or the other.  I can never remember titles.  That was excellent too.  And I'd have to agree with you on Bonesetter's Daughter.  The mother in the book, who couldn't speak, wow I loved that character. 




NefertariReborn -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/25/2007 8:53:00 PM)

I have all of Austen's books (at least by the list on the inside covers).  I love them still. Emma is perhaps My favourite of the whole lot. 




feastie -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/25/2007 9:42:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: feastie

Level, honey...yew ain't gawt naw axcint baybee...
[:D]


Busted by someone who knows.....[:D]
 
Hey, feastie, it's not us with the accents, it's them....


Of course it's them.  I certainly don't have an accent and nor you do.[;)]




Halley -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/28/2007 9:18:29 PM)

Ishmael by David Quinn

The complete works of Andrew Vachss, Andrew Vachss is the most gifted character writer of any author I've ever read




SusanofO -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/28/2007 9:47:30 PM)

Two recent books I read that I really liked are:

"Seth Speaks" by Jane Roberts - Is about answers to some of life's greatest mysteries written by woman who, since the late 1960's, had channelled a spirit (who calls himself a "personality without a body") called Seth. "Seth" reveals answers to her about many of life's mysteries re: What happens when we our bodies die, and about what is on "the other side".

According to the author, Jane Roberts ,(who died in the late 1980's), this spirit "Seth" channelled his "answers to life's most important questions" though her 3 nights a week for decades - and he requested she write a number of books about what he had to say. Whether you believe in an after-life or not, it is probably going to be found pretty compelling reading by more who choose to read it. The book is very long (over 500 pages) and I could not put it down. It is one of several books in a series she wrote that was dictated to her via her chanelling the spirit "Seth". It has been used by several religion classes in high schools and colleges as part of the curriculum for students for many years (I just discovered the "Seth" series this Summer, but apparently the series of books has been in print for several years). 

and I also liked : "The Sociopath Next Door" by Matha Stout, Ph.D. - According to statistics, 4 of every 100 people is a bona-fide sociopath. Which of course means they have absolutely no conscience, and live their lives doing whatever they please with no fear of the consequences (except possibly prison but many times not even prison stops them) from behaving just as they please, no matter who it hurts. This is a highy readable and interesting book with "case histories" of sociopaths that seem "normal" in every way (at least as adults)- except they're not.

The book describes how to recognize a true sociopath, and how to deal with one (the crux of the advice being either stay away, or maintain a "cautious distance", if possible). The book claims that most people have probably encountered a genuine sociopath, in some context (at work, or at school, or in the neighborhood where they live), by the time they are 35-40 years old, and gives fascinating advice on how to cope with a true sociopath. It explains why some people can be hard to pinpoint as "true" sociopaths, and why many sociopaths who do commit crimes, remain un-prosecuted for the crimes they commit.

The book describes a true sociopath as a mere "shell" of a real human being, as a person who lacks depth, or an ability to get much real meaning from life, whose goal is not to have real relationships with other people, but to use them for whatever they can get from them, and then move on; people whose lives lack real meaning, who value nobody except themselves, and who often are terribly lonely but honestly don't know why, as a result.  

*After reading the book, I identified one of my ex-bosses as a sociopath (truly) and also an old neighbor. Wish I'd had this book to read when I knew them (neither of those people is in my life any longer), as it would have been a good "coping tool".

Fascinating reading. After I read this book, I had a discussion with my father's new GF (who is a therapist) and asked if she agreed with what the book had to say, and she did. She said the saddest cases of sociopathic behavior she'd dealt with are parents  who had adopted a child who had sociopathic traits, and didn't know how to deal. There is stong evidence in the book that true, enduring sociopathic traits are mostly genetically inherited, and the parents had been model, wonderful parents, and had a son who was stealing cars and dealing drugs and stealing from them, with no end in sight, and he had no remorse for any of his behavior at all, and they didn't know how to deal. They feared he would end up in prison for life, etc.

She told them the best they could do is be very clear about what behavior they will and won't tolerate from him, and follow through with any consequences if he breaks their rules, as that is the way he will be dealt with by society as well (whether he likes it or not). Anyway, it was a very interesting book.  

- Susan




slaveluci -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 6:36:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
and I also liked : "The Sociopath Next Door" by Matha Stout, Ph.D.

I agree.  I really enjoyed this.  People tend to have the idea that a sociopath is always some ax-wielding murderer or criminal of some type.  That is not necessarily the case at all.  Many more are seemingly normal, everyday types who subtly inflict much pain and damage without ever committing a crime.  I would suggest this book to everyone.  I know I was able to use it to diagnose more than one sociopath in my own life....lol....seriously, very interesting read..............luci




Level -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 7:07:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Halley

Ishmael by David Quinn

The complete works of Andrew Vachss, Andrew Vachss is the most gifted character writer of any author I've ever read


Vachss is a good writer, and a pretty damn good man. He's done a great deal of work for children in his lifetime, and has my respect.
 
Here's the link to his site: http://vachss.com
 
I have a copy of his short graphic-art work, Another Chance to Get It Right, and I cherish it.




Level -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 7:14:17 AM)

I wasn't sure where else to put this, so:
 
ABC, beginning next Saturday night, at 10:00 PM eastern time, will present a 4 part adaptation of 4 science-fiction stories. Each episode will be one hour.
 
Stories are: John Kessel's "A Clean Escape", Howard Fast's "The Awakening", Robert Heinlen's "Jerry Was A Man", and Harlan Ellison's "The Discarded".

http://abc.go.com/specials/mastersofscifi.html




sublimelysensual -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 1:38:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NefertariReborn

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ORIGINAL: KimochiTenshi

I love Amy Tan. =] She's a more contemporary author, but she really writes from a very personal perspective about how cultures clash and try and mesh together... her mother is Chinese, and they moved here when Amy was a little girl, so the great culture wars are something that hits home for her. She's also a very eloquent writer, but not so high and mighty (Like T.S. Eliot) that it turns you off.

The Joy Luck Club is her most famous book, but my favorite one is The Bonesetter's Daughter. I started reading it and couldn't stop. ^^; She's my favorite, y'all should check her out.


She's fantastic.  Let Me see if I have the title correct, you can correct Me if I'm wrong.  The Kitchen God's something or the other.  I can never remember titles.  That was excellent too.  And I'd have to agree with you on Bonesetter's Daughter.  The mother in the book, who couldn't speak, wow I loved that character. 


The Kitchen God's Wife *grinz* I love Amy Tan as well. I also enjoy Eileen Goudge, who writes stories with a similar tone (though easier to read, not so much thinking involved).
 
 
-a *who's currently trying to trudge through a self help book on perfectionism so she can get back to fun reading*




Level -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 2:25:08 PM)

Hmmmm, "trudging"....... sure it's worth it?




Urcreatrix -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 2:32:16 PM)

I recommend A Cartoon History of the Universe by Larry Gonick. Several books in the series and other series as well to make the subject matter just pop! I have always wanted to learn more Asian and Middle Eastern history but most books were too pendantic. This series gives you just enough information to make expanding on the subject easily motivated.  Great list of sources at the end too.




subjected2006 -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 2:33:35 PM)

No Sancturary by Richard Laymon, it's just a real good read and started my Laymon collection..I hope it starts someone elses.
For something profound..IMHO everyone should read "the Big Black Book Of Communism"




popeye1250 -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:07:55 PM)

Susan, I'll have to read those two books, they sound extremely interesting!
I know what they mean by those sociopaths.
I knew a few up North.
They are also pathological liars and will lie right to your face.
They remind me of the robot humanoids in that movie with Yule Brenner "Westworld."
Creepy! It's almost like you're not talking to a "real" human being.
I've always liked John Steinbeck's style of writing.
I'd recommend anything that he did!

Oh, and for the sociopaths out there I'd recommend *anything* by Ward "Tonto" Churchill.




Joseff -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:21:43 PM)

Enemy Mine, by Barry B. Longyear.
When you're done, let me know and I'll give you another.
Joseff




sublimelysensual -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:21:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

Hmmmm, "trudging"....... sure it's worth it?

 
-laughs- The book is extremely drrrrry, but fortunately..(or unfortunately) it's made me look at some things about myself and my attitudes in a different light, so I'm continuing to plow through. I figure the self knowledge makes it worth it, and hey, only *eyeroll* about 150 pages to go.   -laughing- I need an intervention..someone mail a goooood book pleeeeease...
 
-a




Level -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:41:10 PM)

*packs up a copy of The Complete Calvin & Hobbes for a*
 
That'd get your eyes uncrossed.




umisprite -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:54:59 PM)

Originally published as Serenissima, rereleased as Shylock's Daughter...this is Erica Jong's semi-erotic tale of a modern day actress who goes to Venice to film The Merchant of Venice. Is it the ghost of Shakespeare she dallies with or is it all in her mind?




umisprite -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 3:57:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level
*packs up a copy of The Complete Calvin & Hobbes for a*
 That'd get your eyes uncrossed.



The snowmen are absolutely brilliant!




happypervert -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 6:42:01 PM)

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Richard Marcinko..hes an ex Navy seal who writes fictionalized accounts of his and his teams exploits as Navy Seals

He did fiction in books like Red Cell, but Rogue Warrior was autobiography and a real fun read. He also talked about setting up Seal Team 6 as a counter-terrorism unit and he infuriated Navy brass by using them to expose security lapses at military bases. After they drummed him out of the service he took a 60 minutes film crew to the Groton CT submarine base -- this was 10 or more years ago, and first they cruised up and down the river in a boat with a Soviet flag on it, and then drove it right up to a sub and Marcinko got onto it . . . and they were never challenged by anyone.

If you like history, another great book is "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers: Economic Change and Military Conflict from 1500 to 2000" by Paul Kennedy. This is just epic in scope and covers the economic, geographic and political forces that shape the world.




sublimelysensual -> RE: Books you'd recommend and why (7/29/2007 7:00:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

*packs up a copy of The Complete Calvin & Hobbes for a*
 
That'd get your eyes uncrossed.


*grinz* I love Calvin & Hobbes..also The Far Side, since we're talking comics...
 
-a




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