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ShellyD -> Loosing a mindset (7/21/2007 6:17:57 AM)

Evening all,
My question relates to having lost my mindset while I was in a 24/7 Master/slave relationship. Being new to the scene when we met, I fell deeply into a slave mindset, was obediant, pleasing, 'perfect'. After a year, the strictness of his directions/orders and other day to day things led to me falling out of the mindset I was naturally in, After that I could bring out the behaviours that went with each scenario, both scene and day to day stuff, requesting permission, obeying instructions, dress, housework etc. But it all felt hollow, and was the major factor in bringing the relationship to a close, after a long and drawn out time of 2 years.

Now I feel an antipathy towards being a submissive/slave, (not to others who are, but for me) I would like to remain in the lifestyle, but I fear this will drive me away, because I am certainly not a Dominant personality either. My question is; Has anyone else experienced this sudden loss? and is the minset possible to retrieve when it has been so tainted? I would like to try a relationship dynamic with another dominant male, but am concerned my previous experience will prove to be too much baggage, no matter how much I dislike this situation, or carrying baggage from one relationship to the next either.

Any thoughts will be appreciated,[:)]




ShellyD -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/21/2007 6:22:33 AM)

ADDIT

My alternative of looking for a partner for the S&M alone is proving fruitless, but that is not the only reason I am reviewing my situation. I like and need a dominant male in my life, not to make my life happen, but as a sharing of extreme interpersonal experiences.




SlND3R3LLA -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/21/2007 7:10:36 AM)

Of course it is possible to feel submissive to the right person again, it is also possible you will never feel submissive again a day in your life.
 
I had a relationship that ended very bad.  After that, I didn't have a submissive bone in my body.  I was that way for a few months and goodness help any dom that I talked to during that time, especially one that tried to tell me what to do.  My brain would freeze up, and this little attitude thing would happen.  No way was some man/dom going to tell me what to do.  I thought maybe I was more dominant, so I explored that a bit, then realized that wasn't what I was looking for either.
 
When I met Master, I was not really looking at all.  We talked a bit and things just started feeling right again.  I found that the slave part of me was starting to surface again and I was enjoying it. 
 
The thing is you need time to heal from what happened.  Depending on the circumstances, that could take you awhile.  Maybe you need to look for someone that isn't into micromanaging (mine isn't), someone that will accept and love your submission, but not use it as an excuse to boss you around every second of the day.
 
Just take some time for yourself and just get to know others...don't actually search out for another dom.  You might be surprised when one day down the road those feelings start to return and you feel like you are able to move on and be a sub/slave to someone else.
 
Best wishes,
Sin




laineyjade -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/21/2007 7:37:34 AM)

hi Shelly,
I have had that happen too, more than once and in the same relationship which is now over.

Since meeting a new dom, I've realized that all it took was for me to be very honest with him to the point of saying "no, I don't want to do what you're telling me, even if this isn't the right attitude, I am not feeling it here with you right now."  Unlike the previous dom who used any 'tude to browbeat me about my submissiveness (you're not really a submissive, etc., arguing, veiled threats, put downs), this current dom wants to hear all the inner voices even if they're very unlike what I "should" be thinking.

With this kind of open communication, we can sit down and talk about the past and how I feel and what's going on now, and the resentment just kind of begins to melt away. It turns out he doesn't just want someone to do everything he says no matter how they feel and let them fume deep inside where it's convenient for him not to have to deal with emotions. Sometimes he'll say something like, "I know you're feeling edgy and unresponsive about this, but after talking about it I think you're basically okay doing it, so I'd like you to go and do this anyway and then come back and tell me if it made you feel any worse." And then when I do it, I don't feel nearly as upset as I would have, just because he understands the extra effort I went to and is willing to change things around if it's really upsetting me for real. Other times he changes things he'd have had me to do avoid those pointless tasks that upset me and aren't particularly useful to him (like for example, writing a journal, I can't stand it now due to the way it was used against me in the previous relationship, I hate it and freeze up, so my current dom has said rather than writing down my thoughts I could whisper them to him during cuddle times in bed... using a stuffed toy to "say" things for me that I am too nervous to say, which makes me giggle and takes down the walls of fear... and this has taken a chore that used to horrify me and turned it into a sweet bedtime ritual).

I think your submissive feelings will come back with the right person who isn't rigid or judgemental, who takes you as you are, understands that your ambiguous feelings are ordinary and natural and are not a threat to him, is expert at compromise and working with you instead of butting heads with you, who doesn't get angry or threatened when you struggle against something but helps you to work thought it, and who maintains his dominance not by being overly demanding or smothering while letting you repress the negative feelings but by openly examining things as they are and choosing the best course of action not only for himself but for you too.




LadyHeart -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/21/2007 7:14:45 PM)

Life isn't static, and neither is D/s. We all go through phases depending upon what's going on in our lives. We outgrow certain things, and then revisit them in different ways. At the beginning of our BDSM journey I believe there is an inevitable trend to try to conform to some view of BDSM that comes from outside of ourselves. We have a mental picture of how it "should" be and try to jam ourselves into that mould. If the fit isn't good, things start to leak out around the edges and we may have to pop right out of it for a while to find a better model. I started out trying to be a 24/7 submissive but have come to the conclusion that I'm more of a bedroom submissive. And you know what - I'm really OK with that! Try to work out for yourself what it is about submission that is "you" and what is "other" and you'll get there eventually. Enjoy the journey!

:))
LH




ShellyD -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 6:48:23 AM)

Thankyou for your responses, I now have a stronger desire to take it slowly meeting another, who knows, I might just find what I am looking for.[;)]




slaveish -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 8:15:19 AM)

It sounds like you started out in a slave / sub frenzy, which is normal, but the reality of it was too much, without enough compatibility in other areas. Find commonalities (goals, interests, etc.) past the BDSM part of it.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 10:28:00 AM)

It's a very common thing for people to burn out after 2 years.  They either learn to find the security within themselves that they should have had from the start and focus on who they ARE rather than what they DO, or they continue to wander unsatisfied.




mstrjx -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 11:46:00 AM)

I would look at it this way.....

If you feel an inclination towards submission/slavery, would you 'require' actual domination to keep you in that mindset, or can you (simply, or not) will yourself into that mindset?

I'm assuming that your next partner is at least worthy of that behavior from you.  To my mind, a vanilla person wouldn't understand or 'see' what you are doing, and your actions would be pointless.  But someone who has these interests (and your best interests at heart) would have the ability to work with that.

Certainly different dominants have different styles, perhaps, but if your focus is on the pleasure/needs of your partner, you might be able to carry that through on your own.

Good luck.

Jeff




mythi -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 12:34:44 PM)

Much like Sin, at one point I went through some rough times related to my submission (a death, then a few years later an unhealthy 2-3yr relationship) that caused me to emotionally withdraw from submitting.  I also wound up exploring the other side for a year.  When I realized that that wasnt me either, I stepped away and tried to put it all behind me.  Eight years of vanilla marriage later (plus the 4.5 yrs we dated), and I have to hurt a good man to place myself right back where I started.  I can only caution before you also try to lay down your submission that you very carefully examine your own heart and make sure you wont wind up dragging it along behind you like a hungry puppy, begging for scraps and not always possible to resist.  Some people DO never look back.  Some of us wish we would have kept looking forward from the start.





arayofsunshine55 -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/22/2007 5:06:41 PM)

There are so many different ways to do this dance. This might be a good time to figure out what worked for you and what didn't work quite as well.  cause there are no rules. And you get to be whatever type of submissive works for you.  Trying to be perfect is probably gonna lead to some burnout.  Being the best you, the you that is most natural, might be something you can hold up longer.




amayos -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/24/2007 8:41:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ShellyD

Evening all,
My question relates to having lost my mindset while I was in a 24/7 Master/slave relationship. Being new to the scene when we met, I fell deeply into a slave mindset, was obediant, pleasing, 'perfect'. After a year, the strictness of his directions/orders and other day to day things led to me falling out of the mindset I was naturally in, After that I could bring out the behaviours that went with each scenario, both scene and day to day stuff, requesting permission, obeying instructions, dress, housework etc. But it all felt hollow, and was the major factor in bringing the relationship to a close, after a long and drawn out time of 2 years.



Hi Shelly,

My experience has so often shown the opposite; that it can in fact be the lack of structure and discipline which subverts authority and erodes the "mindset" you speak of. I know the spirit of authority can be damaged when a leader doesn't lead well or looses the respect of his/her servant. But leading well is not just about strictness, of course; it is about capturing the heart and mind. Perhaps it is the absence of that spirit behind the structure that has fed your antipathy.




larissa2007 -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/24/2007 12:29:07 PM)

I have had the same thing happen, so I know exactly how you are feeling.  It can make your submitting in your next relationship a bit harder the next time, I know it did mine.  I found at time it does making submitting harder, and has given me a bit of a rebellious streak at times, which ends up getting me in a "bit of trouble."  I still have the strong desire to submit, I just have to really work harder to get that part of me to surface now and perhaps that will be the same for you.




Celeste43 -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/25/2007 8:18:09 AM)

The ability to be obedient while not feeling it at all is why I sought out a relationship based on emotional transparency instead of one based on obedience or service. I need to be able to tell him how I feel and have the relationship bring us closer and not distance us.




eratosservant -> RE: Loosing a mindset (7/25/2007 9:39:58 AM)

Hi there Shelley!  Nice to meet you, as it were.  I think that you have experienced the ole' "The Thrill is GONE" syndrome.  I have a few sugeestions, from one sub to another.  Could there be a possiblity that the 24/7 thing isn't for you?  For me, it's not.  I'm in a relationship where I am treated, and expected to act, as an equal.  For me to submitt to a 24/7 realtionship with either of my partners would mess me up in the head.  No joke.  My other suggestion is to try dating and going out with friends that aren't in the scene to give yourself a break.

As to getting back what was lost, you're going to have to rebuild.  Finding someone who can help you rebuild that, and not do the same thing everyday, will help.  It may just be me, but the same thing over and over again gets BORING!!!!  If that was the case, then step back and take a break from it, even if you are currently in a relationship.  It will be better for everyone involved if both parties know when to take off their respective "hats".




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