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goddessAVA -> Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 12:39:38 PM)

My original approach to ass play was very sensual, I wanted the other person to enjoy it as much as I did.  lately however, I have had a craving for forcible entry with a strap-on, not in a make them bleed out way but in a only pleasure for me way-any experiences with this?  I seems hard to get a big cock in a tight scared ass.  If anyone has done this and is willing to share I'd love to hear about it.  Also is there a best material for forcible assfucking?  I have been looking at metal but big ouch-not sure if it is dangerous.



AAkasha -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 12:46:39 PM)

Sadly, this is one of those fantasies that is hard to make into a reality.  If a man is too nervous or is legitimately scared, he is too tight to take with a strap on, and the rougher you go, the worse it will be.  I always worry about accidently hurting a man in a not-good way, or even the prospect of fucking him too hard and making his ass sore for later.   The "forced" play with a nervous beginner or someone who is legitimately tight has to be put aside for a more slow, seductive game-which can also be fun if you get into it.  The challenge of getting a tight, nervous guy to relax, the sounds he makes the first time the lube is applied on his hole, the tensing off his ass cheeks as you try to settle him down -- yum! That can be extremely erotic.

My "fix" for the fantasy of wanting the forced strap on is to get a guy who's experienced, can take a huge cock, and is intuitive and dynamic and able to really play a role.  I tell him his role is to resist, and we get physical and have a takedown type scene instead, with him eventually restrained in a vulnerable, degrading position and me "forcing" myself on his ass and taking him that way.  He can still resist and plead and fight all he wants, but I can fuck him hard, knowing that his ass can take it.

HOT!!

Akasha



DianeB269 -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 12:58:37 PM)

It would very hard to do even with a small  6" strapon. If he can't relax, it's not going in
without pain and maybe some bleeding.

I also would love to force a strapon into a newbes ass.


Diane



corysub -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 4:53:02 PM)

 Everyone has their own ideas, but i was started off with a small "butt plug" that gave a very nice sensation and
left me asking for more...gradually my Mistress at the time worked up to a larger dildo and than with a strap-on.
It took a lot of patience with me on her part, but after the "training" period i found that while i could not take one
of those elephant sized dildo's, a strap-on with a "normal sized" up to 7" dildo would work fine.  Of course, as i
said, she had a lot of patience with me. 



goddessAVA -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 8:18:22 PM)

Yes, mentally,  forcing someone to take it is hot, but in reality I am not sure......I read session tales where the sub has claimed to have done this.  It seems hard-I wonder what the ratio of ass sluts is for forced vs. sensual after they have been playing.  I have to admit doing a bit of forcing lately and it has not gone well :(



jonathan -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 9:20:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessAVA

Yes, mentally, forcing someone to take it is hot, but in reality I am not sure......I read session tales where the sub has claimed to have done this. It seems hard-I wonder what the ratio of ass sluts is for forced vs. sensual after they have been playing. I have to admit doing a bit of forcing lately and it has not gone well :(


And i don't see how it could go all that well if they are new to it. Not how those muscles are designed. i'm with corysub in part, i found that wearing a small plug for a few hours before strap-on play helped a great deal, loosened things up enough that the first thrust was not too painful, and after that everything was fine. Your reference to the ratio is interesting, i'm kinda curious myself. my first time was forced, but She took it slow and allowed me to adjust and it was a wild ride.

So i would have to say that with virgins, some adjustment is needed before the deed is done.

And, of course, Ms. Akasha has posted well here again, just the sort of scenario that i enjoy.



wnt2srveu -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/23/2007 10:46:34 PM)

this is something i do have an interest in, as a submissive, i think it sounds real hot.  i agree that it could be real painful and dangereous if the sub is just forced. i was not "forced", there was a safe word. when i was taken by Mistress with her strap-on, she first tried a tripple ripple plug but i could not take it, so she teased me, tied me down, and played with me, until i relaxed some.  then when i wasn't expecting it, she turned me over, and just put it in, there was no are you ready, or anything, i loved the not knowing, and just the feeling of being taken. i can't say it felt bad, it felt good, but was not something that gave be a hard on. however the feeling was the most increadable feeling ever, esspecially the point where she thrust into me and i could feel her body shaking as she came, and then layed down on me with her strap-on still in.  it was then i fully understood what it means to be submissive, to do things without your pleasure in mind, only what pleases Mistress. anyways i thought this might seem interesting, i have not ever shared it with anyone, but seemed relevent to the part about the sub not really getting any pleasure, only yourself.

sub mike



MisPandora -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 1:41:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessAVA

Yes, mentally,  forcing someone to take it is hot, but in reality I am not sure......I read session tales where the sub has claimed to have done this.  It seems hard-I wonder what the ratio of ass sluts is for forced vs. sensual after they have been playing.  I have to admit doing a bit of forcing lately and it has not gone well :(


Trust that they are just that -- session tales that are almost as fictional as the amount of times that some of those fellows have actually shown up in a dungeon for a session.

You're welcome to risk perfing someone's bowel and giving them a colostomy for life.  I'll stick to the patience method.......



interestingtimes -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 1:59:03 AM)

oh I want the slow gentle consentual side of things lol.....please



cleaningsub -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 9:21:41 AM)

i had a bad experience with a strap-on that i wasn't ready for.  i was sore for a week.  i was told by someone who knows that i wasn't ready but could have been worked up to the size in a short time. 



AAkasha -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 9:38:07 AM)


This thread made me think more about the realities of "rough play" -- basically, how can you make it rough and at the same time not hurt someone?  I really enjoy "manhandling" my slaves sometimes, and that means getting into a lot of physical stuff, and part of the intensity comes from being rough and reckless.  Things like forced strap on are a good example, but as others have pointed out, it's hard to do when a man is tense or nervous or not ready - no matter how much lube you use.

The same can be said for forced oral strap on, in a slightly different way.  If you get to rough with someone and you're forcing him to "deep throat", you can bruise his mouth or mess up teeth, or make them gag in a very "ungood" way.  Still, there's something to be said for grabbing a man by a fistful of hair and ramming a dildo into his mouth. 

The key?  I think this is one of the great nuances of experienced domination that you might miss with a novice or someone who hasn't joyfully refined her skills over the years.  I can honestly say the reason I can do intense, manhandling stuff now is because I was doing it, playfully, when I was a "wee femdom," learning that you create the intensity AROUND the more sensitive acts and the emotions pull it off.  Call it a bit of femdom "sleight of hand." maybe?

The same goes for things like a carefully placed slap across the face.  The right timing, the right attitude and the right intensity all build up to a face slap -- one that is really done rather cautiously -- and it still comes off as brutal and cruel.

With forced "oral" strap on play, here's another example.    A man down on his knees, bound tightly, feels all the intensity and "femdom heat" from the way she clenches her nails into his flesh, pulls his hair, roughly places his knee in his crotch enough to make him pay attention, then plugging his nose so he has to open his mouth, gripping his chin between her fingers -- all leading up to the moment when she pushes her latex cock into his mouth - which, when it happens, is actually done with careful precision and NOT that firm/rough at all.  But ask him when he reflects back, and it was ROUGH. 

I think that's what makes "rough" strap on play good when it's done well -- the man has no idea that the manhandling is being done to him in every conceivable way, yet the penetration is handled smoothly, safely and in a way that is pleasurable for both.

Akasha



goddessAVA -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 10:32:47 AM)

yikes-I don't thing anyone should be weclomed to perf a bowel, thats a little bitchy......please, this would be for ass sluts-yes  I also advocate starting slow, and I realize damage can be done if not approached properly.   Judging by the LARGE volume of subs who I have played strap on games with and have lived through it, no colostomy bags needed yet, I might have a little sanity when it comes to ass play.  I love taking a virgin ass and breaking it in-but more and more I have had a fantasy of tying up a boy, ass in the air.  Slowly fingering his ass, whispering in his ear that I am going to take him, like or not and he can relax and enjoy it or fight it and have it hurt.
I never use glass or metal but I saw a pic of Goddess Athena with a metal strap on and she looked hot(as always).  I have pushed a few of my regular ass sluts to take it with less warm up for my fun, they were not able to but the fantasy lives on..........



solvr70 -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/24/2007 10:49:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: goddessAVA

Yes, mentally,  forcing someone to take it is hot, but in reality I am not sure......I read session tales where the sub has claimed to have done this.  It seems hard-I wonder what the ratio of ass sluts is for forced vs. sensual after they have been playing.  I have to admit doing a bit of forcing lately and it has not gone well :(


forced can mean a lot of different things to different people.

could be semi-forced the first time hearing no, but not having the one you are taking run away out the door. You can force one without being brutal and trying to hurt the person. just adding a little bit more pressure, then a little bit more pressure until the head pops in..then of course there are typically words about not being able to take it and to please pull it out...but so long as the person does not run out the door, insisting that they hold still, and take it like a good bitch...then just holding it there until the person adjusts.

it also brings to mind taking more/bigger for a Woman....moving up in girth is alway a bit painful, but again, with the insistance, unwillingness to remove it, to get him to be able to take it. sounds forced, but so long as the person is not bound, if they REALLY needed it to stop, they would pull away...



DrPleasure -> RE: Forced Strap-On (7/25/2007 12:31:10 PM)

I just posted this in another thread.  I think its also appropriate here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1153047/mpage_5/tm.htm#1166737



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