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Stephann -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 1:20:06 PM)
Hi tr8n, Something worth considering; why are you so focused on what this third party had to say? The person you met in real time, gave you the real time opportunity to prove who and what he was like. The anonymous online person, you know less of than you would a bagger at Wall Mart. Frankly, LA was dead on; it's nice to hope and expect that Dominants, Masters, Tops, Kinksters, etc can be held to a higher standard, but the reality is that they are simply a cross section of the rest of society. There will be intelligent, strong, capable people, and there will be duds. Apply a little vanilla game theory; it stands to reason, that people who were intelligent, attractive, capable, quality individuals wouldn't likely stay single long. Thus, the longer someone is on a personals web site looking for XXXXX, the greater the chance they are not intelligent, capable, quality, etc. Yet, if that were true, nobody would visit these sites, because they would be filled with losers. So, my suggestion for you would be to turn off your profile, search for people you find interesting, and write them directly. A short letter of introduction about who you are, where you live, and why you're writing would suffice. This prevents you from receiving email from random or ill intentioned folks. Have a great day, Stephan

Rover -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 4:39:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PAcpllooking Its interesting that this thread was about etiquette between Masters adn when I post what is the etiquette I am pretty much told in so many words that I am restrictive and should hang a sign around my slaves neck. Who are you to tell anyone what proper etiquette between Dominants is? Where did you find that etiquette, an online website? Or did you make it up on your own? Seriously, your entire line of reasoning makes me question what experience you have with groups at all. John

happypervert -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 6:13:56 PM)
quote: Where did you find that etiquette, an online website? I got my book of kinksters etiquette and protocols at the initiation ceremony when I learned the secret hand shake and got my decoder ring. If they didn't they give one to you, it means you just ain't a twue dominant.

Stephann -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 6:19:02 PM)
I lost my decoder ring. It's in the belly of a turtle. I've had to make do with band aid wrapped in tinfoil... Homer

came4U -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 6:32:45 PM)
I tend to agree with AquaticSub. Plus, who would behave like that so called dom who writes you unsolicited to notify you of who you choose as a friend or not? lol. Decorum of this type does not need a handbook, it is simple. Be just as you are if you have been raised with the basics: common courtesy and manners. Even if a submissive (has never happened) posts in her profile that she were in love with a man I may have spoken to and I knew he was an ass, I frankly (unless he was truly a dangerous person) would NEVER notify her. Even assholes need lovin' [sm=wave.gif](no names mentioned lol). To write to you, this guy is obviously mental and really should mind his business because he has no class whatsoever. You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose..but you can't pick your friend's nose!! <tosses snot at the shit-disturbin' unsolicited mail nutscases.

MadRabbit -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 8:15:12 PM)
Is my decoder ring broken if it doesnt make any sense of roughly half the posts on these boards?

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/25/2007 8:23:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover Seriously, your entire line of reasoning makes me question what experience you have with groups at all. Shhhh...it is bad etiquette to point out that people make up shit and really have no more experience than what they have read online. It is kinda funny how they out themselves, though... Taggard

chellekitty -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 3:26:35 AM)
but but but if the almighty Rover doesn't point these things out to us poor wittle submissives, how will we ever find a twue Dominant?

confused2007 -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 4:43:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: earthycouple Dom Dom etiquette? confusing that there should be such a thing seperate and apart from any other modalities of etiquette. We are people you know. You are so right. However, have you taken a peak around lately. Save customer service, I think day in, day out human etiquette has fallen faster in quality than anything else.

tr8nmyholes -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 8:02:52 AM)
Well - thanks for all the great feedback! I had asked the question in the first place, even though the answer seemed to be quite apparent, since any and every community has a strong sense of "self". This sense of self usually comes with a spoken and unspoken set of rules. In the very attempt to not offend, but ask the question about etiquette in the first place, I seem to have done exactly what I aimed to avoid - offend. Bottomline - a community is nothing more and nothing less than what its members make of it. And each and every individual applies themselves by bringing in their own personal standards, values and expectations. So, I will go back to the apparent answer: use the Block button if someone offends my personal standards and/or feelings and only surround myself with those that fit my needs. Again, thanks for pointing me at the obvious answers. And also again, my apologies to anyone who took offense from my post - especially those submissives that felt I implied they do not have and/or require standards, values, etiquette and code of conduct! Kristen

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 8:25:49 AM)
No I don't think you offended anyone.

liljoy -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 9:58:02 AM)
Archer, i totally understand requiring other Dominants to ask for permission before hugging. i don't understand requiring it of other slaves and submissives. Actually i've only seen it required by one Dom and didn't understand it then either. What bothered me most about that situation is that his girls weren't allowed to ask him if they could hug someone so they would beg me to ask him if i could hug them where as given his new rule i would have just not hugged them. i mean no disrespect at all i'm honestly wanting to understand Your reasons quote: ORIGINAL: Archer Nope no mind reading nessisary you simply ask first and accept the answer. Want to hug my girl ask, more often than not I'll permit it (but never assume permission automaticly). If my slave does not "recognize you"/ answer your greeting assume there is a protocol reason rather than a personal one. If you have a question about it come ask me I'll be happy to fill you in. However since you don't know nor have you consented to follow "my" protocol I will simply inform you of the parts you need to know when they arrise and then you get to choose follow it when dealing with me and mine, ask me to mdify it to make you more comfortable, or don't deal with me and mine. Touching my slave is like touching my balls unless you know me really well you had better ask first, LOL.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 10:20:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: liljoy Archer, i totally understand requiring other Dominants to ask for permission before hugging. i don't understand requiring it of other slaves and submissives. Actually i've only seen it required by one Dom and didn't understand it then either. What bothered me most about that situation is that his girls weren't allowed to ask him if they could hug someone so they would beg me to ask him if i could hug them where as given his new rule i would have just not hugged them. i mean no disrespect at all i'm honestly wanting to understand Your reasons Because property is property no matter who is touching it. Subs aren't special. Doms aren't special. Unless you're under the mistaken idea that subs can't act inappropriately? What about switches? Or vanillas? Plus you seem to be making this a gender issue- what about male subs? It's much simpler all around to make it a blanket rule that intimate touching needs permission from everyone first. Though not allowing the slave to ask permission just seems weird and more trouble than it's worth.

liljoy -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 10:54:48 AM)
hmm good points that i hadn't concidered. i am not under the impression that subs can't act inappropriatly or switches or nillas either it's just not where my mind was going until you pointed it out. i guess i'm just used to seeing Doms more possesive of thier property when it cam to other doms. if that makes any sense i don't think i was making gender an issue. i was speaking about a Male Dom that had female subs. if he had had male subs i would have included them but he didn't quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Because property is property no matter who is touching it. Subs aren't special. Doms aren't special. Unless you're under the mistaken idea that subs can't act inappropriately? What about switches? Or vanillas? Plus you seem to be making this a gender issue- what about male subs? It's much simpler all around to make it a blanket rule that intimate touching needs permission from everyone first. Though not allowing the slave to ask permission just seems weird and more trouble than it's worth.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 11:13:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: liljoy hmm good points that i hadn't concidered. i am not under the impression that subs can't act inappropriatly or switches or nillas either it's just not where my mind was going until you pointed it out. i guess i'm just used to seeing Doms more possesive of thier property when it cam to other doms. if that makes any sense Yeah, insecure dorks. quote: i don't think i was making gender an issue. i was speaking about a Male Dom that had female subs. if he had had male subs i would have included them but he didn't I was talking more about a male sub wanting to hug the female sub.

liljoy -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 11:26:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Yeah, insecure dorks. heh i wasn't going to say that I was talking more about a male sub wanting to hug the female sub. wow the group back there had very few male subs and the few we did have we almost never saw so again my mind wasn't thinking along those lines. i would guess if they would be possesive towards Doms they would be just as possesive towards male subs

PAcpllooking -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 11:43:44 AM)
Who are you to tell anyone what proper etiquette between Dominants is? Where did you find that etiquette, an online website? Or did you make it up on your own? Seriously, your entire line of reasoning makes me question what experience you have with groups at all. John [/quote] I am no one to tell anyone anything. If you really read what I said in all my posts you will see that, to put it simply, I am saying that everyone needs to respect others space and wishes. Nothing more nothing less. I wonder why you are so defensive and question my experience? William

PAcpllooking -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 11:45:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty quote: ORIGINAL: Rover Seriously, your entire line of reasoning makes me question what experience you have with groups at all. Shhhh...it is bad etiquette to point out that people make up shit and really have no more experience than what they have read online. It is kinda funny how they out themselves, though... Taggard Shhhhhhhhhhhh its usually the ones who flame others who are only online William

AquaticSub -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 12:22:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross No I don't think you offended anyone. I don't think so either.

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: "Etiquette" between Masters (?) (7/26/2007 12:24:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PAcpllooking Shhhhhhhhhhhh its usually the ones who flame others who are only online Yep, that's me...online only. And if anyone wants to come see Elle and I do an "online only" Fire Play/Wax Play Demo at RKS on the 25th of August, let me know. It really should be a great demo! Taggard

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