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CuriousLord -> RE: Nipple Bigotry (7/24/2007 5:13:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
The issue is one of hypocrisy more than anything else. By definition that would mean that laws regarding the baring of men's chests would have the same effect. Personally however, any law limiting freedom is a bad law, therefor I'll take the position to strive for equality under the accepted status quo for men.
It's already the accepted status-quo: men and women both can't display sexual organs in public.
I'd ask you to consider:
-A man with a gun in his hand can not point it at someone and pull the trigger.
-A man with a toy gun in his hands can point it at someone and pull the trigger.
In a place which everyone has a gun or toy gun, why is this? It's not discrimination against the men with real guns- it's that they don't want people killing eachother.
From this analogy, one might say that men have toy guns of chests. No sexual organs. They're not off for the same moral reasons. The law is still, "Don't shoot people", but it has different effects for those with different equipment.
Now, if you want to make it equal, you can say, "No one can point a gun, be it toy or real, at someone and pull the trigger." This would be like men covering up, too. But the orginial bit of "Don't shoot anyone" isn't satisfied if you just start letting the people with real guns shooting other people.
Now, you see, from the analogy, shooting someone is showing them a sexual organ. I don't think that's such a bad thing, so, meh- I think the law's silly in the first place. But I'm asking you to understand- the law isn't hypocritical, it's sensible, when one accepts the premise of its morals. If one does not, then unless this one has a different, mitigating set of morals, this one also does not object to genital areas being displayed in public.
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
From the innocent question of an UM comes the irrationality of the situation. "Mommy, why can daddy take his top off at Dodger stadium and tan while watching the game and you can't?" Granted, it sounds silly if you know it comes from beth's 20 year old daughter, but its still germane to the point.
Kids ask their parents why they have to use seperate bathrooms, too. Fact is, people have different kinds of bodies, and the law's not to show off the goods.
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
What is "distastefully deceptive" to you about equality?
That it's not equality. It's making an exception for some female sexual organs just because it's similar to a part of the male body that can be shown. If this does strike you as inequality, then one might ask for male chests to also be covered, which would satisfy both ends of the equation.
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