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RE: Sensing limits - 7/28/2007 12:11:10 PM   
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I find myself watching other scenes a sub takes part in before I play with her, or failing that, having a conversation before we even start that gives me a good idea of how she plays.  I like the feeling of being familiar with my sub, so the second is very rare. One thing I tried recently that I loved was having two of us top.  At any given time one of us would monitor the sub's status, reactions, etc. and give encouragement to her while the other administered the beating.  It was exsquisite both in terms of feeling close to the domme I worked with and to the sub. All in all, though, trust yourself.  If you approach scenes with an eye toward the sub's well-being, you'll have no problem seeing how she's doing.

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RE: Sensing limits - 7/29/2007 10:45:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

hmmmm...that is a great question. I would say to stop every so often, and ask how she is feeling, but don't destroy the mood, such as saying, So, my slut/toy/insert word here, how are you feeling right now? And like everything else, communicate before, during and after.



with this i agree,,
and as for me ,, i try to push the limit and stop  just before the safe word,, but on that note,,  some want you to make them say it and get totaly aroused from  that one moment when everything is on the verge of being to much for then to handle,,

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RE: Sensing limits - 7/29/2007 10:48:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds
My first experience with striking(spanking and flogging), was to be told to number each blow from 1-10 as to how much it hurt. This was as much for my top's benefit as my own, to help him guage what I could handle and what I couldn't. He also said he learned to associate certain pitches or reactions with each range in that 1-10 scale. I'm sure I couldn't identify my own responses that well but he seemed to be able to do it.


This technique would drive me bonkers!

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RE: Sensing limits - 7/29/2007 5:23:56 PM   
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My Dom and i started out slowly and he would stop every now and than, rub or massage my rear and ask me questions about whether i'm ok and if he needs to stop. But as we progressed further and he's more strict and the swats are harder, he's learned to gauge my reaction. Yes crying is good, he likes to see me cry sometimes.
   If she cries, it's ok. Just make sure you talk to her and ask questions, kind of like what LA was saying.

Best of luck

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RE: Sensing limits - 7/30/2007 2:13:30 AM   
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Hello HypnoticDan. You are doing fine. When not sure, stop. Do something else you know is no problem, then come back to the other thing to see if you can pass go and collect. There is no point in going on with something when it stops being fun for you. There is always a next time.

I have sub that is a bitch to figure out (together for 7 years now) as she does not use her safe word (I don't even remember what it is!) because she cannot talk most of the time in a scene. To get her to talk, I have to bring her out of the "zone" and that is not much fun for both of us (she won't tell me, but I know this pisses her off to no end).

If you have a regular partner you have to learn to decode the non verbal responses for your information. Watch hands, toes, respiration (listen), eye movement, muscle groups (abdomen) and you will eventually get configurations that correlate to pleasure displeasure and distress.

After the scene, you should talk about what was fun. Some newbies won't say what they did not like, as they blame themselves for this and do not want to displease the dom. It is better to simply ask what they found to be "positive" and take also note of what aspects they do not bring up. (ha,ha! she did not say anything about the double fisting  while someone else was flaming her toes! but she says she likes the new decoration on her tittie chain!)

With that information, you will eventually get the proper correlations you need to adjust the intensity of your progressions. It may not be easy, but it should be fun. Hope this helped. RL.

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 12:44:50 AM   
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HD;

Something that has worked well for me when bottoming with new or inexperienced Tops, besides setting up safewords and non-verbal signals, is to use the numbers 1-10 for checking in.

A whisper in my ear (aside from the breathiness being a turn on) of "number?" isn't a mood-killer at all, and is proof my Dom/me is watching out for my safety. It also allows me to give an honest answer of where I'm at in my own pain threshold and limits, as opposed to how I think my Dom wants me to answer based on where he's at in the scene. I think the worst question to ask is "are you OK?". In hindsight, I know my Dom is checking in, but in-scene, "OK" has about a million different meanings and I have no idea how to answer.

As you play more with your sub, you'll learn her unique reactions. Some subs are screamers, some are moaners, some are cryers, some are fighters, some are mouthy, some are silent. These reactions vary from toy to toy and scene to scene. I've sobbed while being flogged, and smiled while being cut, but my commonality is once a Dom start going good with *anything*, I stop talking, lose muscle control, and will sag to the floor unless I'm tied/held up. And in subspace? Forget about communicating with me at all; if my Dom fears he's gone too far, he's got to bring us out, because I'm certainly not capable of it anymore. I would much prefer to come out of subspace by a concerned Dom than be pulled out of it by EMTs.

Communication afterwards is key... I can't tell you *when* to talk with your sub, 'cause it's different for everyone. As a sub, I need very simple conversation, if any at all, for about an hour, because I'm completely glazed and stupefied.  I won't be able to give a truly honest "this is how I felt about it" answer until 2 days later, and that's when my real "drop" begins. Others will snap out of it after 15 minutes and be fine until the next playtime, and can answer any question you ask.

Hope this has helped!

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 12:50:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

After the scene, you should talk about what was fun. Some newbies won't say what they did not like, as they blame themselves for this and do not want to displease the dom. It is better to simply ask what they found to be "positive" and take also note of what aspects they do not bring up. (ha,ha! she did not say anything about the double fisting  while someone else was flaming her toes! but she says she likes the new decoration on her tittie chain!)



Very good advice, which brings me to something I forgot to mention as well... remind her of and ask her about specific things you did to her. Like Robert says, she may avoid talking about the double-fisting, and she may *adore* the new titty-chain decoration, but she may have completely forgotten you caned the soles of her feet (although how that could be forgotten, I'll never know - yowsa!!!).

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 3:01:16 AM   
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When we are doing a scene that I am worried about messing up the mood, I use a hand squeeze instead. If she is OK she will squeeze back twice. Because she is usually tied up I have to be checking to see if her hands and feet are getting cold and loosing circulation anyhow. It may pull her out a little bit, but it isn't to much of a jolt, and is quickly forgotten.
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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 4:54:58 AM   
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We stress the body and the mind for various reasons, think about your reasons for doing what you do and design a system of in scene communication that works for you. Some of us have alot of different and sometimes even conflicting reasons for scenes, and thus have to adapt from one way of commnicating to another depending on the situation.

I often scene with multiple goals in fact sometimes a set of goals for myself and another set of goals for the bottom is not unusual. It gets tricky ballancing them all out but that's something that keeps it interesting for me.

Example a scene I did last weekend with Elegant, center of room blindfolded as I work around her from any angle.
Builds her abiity to focus on remaining centered regardless of what is happening to her.
Since she is not held up by a piece of furniture she can't just let herself go and fly, she has to keep enough focus to remain on her feet and ballanced. She has developed a coping method of an imaginary support. She enjoys the scene overall but for an entirely different reason than she enjoys a cathardic scene. She enjoys the fact that she has a known goal / expectation from me, during the scene. I tend to give 4 or 5 times the possitive reinforcements during this scene than I do during other scenes.

I certainly use checking in as a communication form with this scene, the best of the methods for me are
    "Find your center." then watch as you see them collect themselves and find it and then relax into it.
     "Where are you?"  ( if they have trouble responding to this one you simply give them the answer you want them to work with Where are you? you are you are safe with me right where you belong.)
If you find your questioning brings them out of headspace too much maybe this will work for you too. (giving them the answer when you see their difficulty.)
Certainly has always proved easier to give them multiple choice or yes and no questions than to ask them to formulate an actual thought.

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 5:12:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHeart
...I take it as feedback rather than Topping from the bottom. ("You hit like a girl" gets a different response, lol!)

Oh but SAMS (Smart Ass Masochists) can be, oh so much fun.    


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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 5:54:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam
Part of what has been a challenge for me in this lifestyle is overcoming programming. Most men are programmed to not hurt women. Most women are trained to serve guests and be the hostess. "Getting over" these programs to allow for the Tb, Ds and Ms dynamics to take affect takes time. Be patient with yourself.


I have to agree with MasterFireMaam on this one.  You need to actually get yourself in the proper headspace, mindset or frame of mind.

Something to keep in mind, if it starts to become feeling too awkward for you, pause take a deep breath and slowly exhaul.  The reason I suggest this is because some DOMs/TOPs new at spanking somebody can have the strangest reactions when they start to feel uncomfortable or awkward.   The last you want to do is find yourself busting out laughing, or slipping into some off the wall role such as talking in a tone like little girls voice.  The last thing you want to do is end up sounding like a nervous Mr. Rodgers as well.  People have the strangest reactions when they are feeling extremely awkward.   Yes, this really does and can happen to people believe it or not.   MasterFireMaam is dead on the money about our social programming, that boys should never hurt or play rough with little girls.

A couple of things to keep in mind, if you find yourself taking a deep breath and slowly exhauling.
  • I am doing this, I can keep on doing this.
  • She really wants to be spanked, and enjoys being spanked.
  • I am the wicked evil overload and I'm gonna spank her good. (or some other similiar thought to reground and identify yourself as being the sadist ass spanker you are.)

Basically all you are doing is taking a deep breath, giving yourself a little mental peep talk, reassuring yourself that it's ok for boys to hurt little girls that love having their ass spanked, and getting back in touch with your inner sadist.

The last you want to do is simply loose it, in the middle of a scene.  But if that does happen, don't beat yourself up too hard.  You can still regroup and recover from it..

For instance if you find yourself laughing, and your submissive/bottom takes note and comments about it.  You have to remember you are the Wicked Evil Ass Spanking Overload, you are in power and in control, so quickly regain your sense and act like it.  After all, what Ass Spanking Overload would allow his victim to get away with questioning his laughter!  That should at least merit or be reason for a few more nice Wacks to the ASS end.   However, if you can't stop laughing, you're gonna have to pack it on the scene.   If this unlikely event occurs, go easy on yourself, and find your sense of humor about this, don't take everything to heart.   I'm going to stress communication, if a scene ever flops on you, mind you nobody sets out intending to things to go bad, it's always a good idea to be able to talk about what went right or wrong later on.  Don't be afraid or discourage at trying it again with your submissive either.

Some people do and some people don't go through this experience, everybody is different in how the handle awkward moments.  

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 6:54:29 AM   
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You can always pause for some other action for a short time - scape your fingernails across her sore bottom, it always gets a reaction (sure does from me, anyway).  Tease, tickle, touch, pinch... even just swish some scary implement around and make her flinch.  There's plenty that keeps the mood and action going but gives a break in the action for her body to recover.

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 8:32:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER
... As a scene progresses feedback from the sub becomes les and less reliable and at
some point you are going to find yourself in a position where you do not feel comfortable with what is
going on and of course at that point if your instinct are telling you that it is too extreme then stop. If you
are using the same sub over and over then you will very quickly be able to tell from her body exactly what
is going on.  I for instance keep a lookout on my subs breathing especially the way she inhales.  I have found that she inhales much faster when its approaching the edge. I also look for a confused dazed deer in headlights stare that indicates to me that I cant trust her opinion at that point.


Yes, The dazed and confused deer in the headlights look! LOL.. love the choice of words here.

Don't rely on safe words to end the scene.
I have always been a supporter of the use of safe words, however, in reality most submissives don't want to use 'em.  So don't expect your sub to use the safe word to end the session.  I believe there are a number of thread on this topic already, with the reasoning behind submissives/slaves not wanting to use a safe word.  Safe words are like fire extinguishers, sure they are they in case of emergency, but they seldom get used.  Expecting to do a scene until a sub cries out the safe word, is not a good thing to do.  If your sub does by chance ever use a safe word, Trust and Believe it's with good reason.  Be prepared to give your sub reassurance, that they did not let you down or fail you by using it. 

Physical Responses
You will need to study and pay attention to physical responses, sounds, breathing, even notice head posture.  Gradually these things can change.  If it feels like it's magically time to stop for some unknown reason, Stop, pause, and check up on the sub.  Reactions and physical responses somewhat vary from person to person.  However, most of the things people have shared regarding breathing, Deer in head light look (eye dilation, glassy looking eyes), curled toes, even hands and fingers, general skin coloration, noises they make.  If you have to keep in mind, the harder or longer you play, you will see more and more physical response changes.  Nearly everything people have suggested to pay attention or look for is a good idea to keep in mind and observe. 

Spanking Goals
Spanking is a bit like weight lifting.  Where you can lift a shit load of heavy weights a few times, or lift a small load of weights several times.  Some people do a little bit of both when working out.   

Keep in mind, if it's your intention to leave heavy deep bruises on the ass, you'll probably be going at it Heavy.  This simply means whacking Ass fewer times.   If you get off on spanking her ass silly for long period of time, you'll want to go lightly on them.   Mixing it up, makes things a little more interesting and not so predictable.   I've actually heard some submissives complain of Dom's doing the same thing over and over again.

Another thing to think about is spanking only one small part of a scene or is it the focus of the scene itself?  if spanking is part of a scene or you intend upon playing with your submissive in other ways, after spanking ass, you need to make certain you have not pushed your sub too far.   That you sub can still last through all the other things you want to do.   So you need to consider how far you want to push your sub/slave with spanking.   Or do you wish to attempt to drive her into subspace.

Checking up on things during scene play 
LA nailed this one on the head, about service bottoms and what not to say "Are you OK?",  this really can interrupt or change the mood of things quickly.  Oh Yeah, and it kind of makes you sound like "Mr. Rodgers", probably the let thing your submissive wants. 

OK, I guess it's time to open my vault of stupid tricks from my own playbook here, to give you a better idea of things to think about.   At least you'll get the general jest or line of thinking,

The "I own your ass" literally approach.  Please keep in mind I'm rather verbal and tend to enjoy verbal humilation.  Basically, earlier on in the scene before spanking starts, I claim ownership of their own body.  Including all their body parts.  I'll make them repeat back to me who's Ass, pussy or nipples it is too.   Basically, after declaring "their ass is mine",  I was ask them a direct question expecting the appropriate answer..  "Who's Ass is this?" (perhaps I'm rubbing my hands over it warming it up, or sliding the flogger between the cheeks of their Ass at the time"...  expecting an appropriate response such as "Your's Sir!".. and what am I going to do with "My ASS"?... "Spank it Sir"... Errrr.. Sorry wrong answer! Correct answer is "Anything I fucking want!", repeat Question again being a little firmer in my hand rubs or flogger stokes between the ass cheeks!  "Anything you want Sir"... Ahhh.. "Good girl"...   Anyways, I go through this process a couple times and slowly build upon it.   "Who's little fucking whore Ass is this?"  by this time, their ass is well warmed up.  Mind you, I'm saying other things besides just repeating the same thing over and over.  Perhaps, I've inspected other body parts and gone through similar comments.  Basically, it allows me to touch and feel up their body in a sensual manner, while slowly becoming more verbal at the same time.   BTW, since you are pretty new and she is, I would not make the mistake of assuming verbal humilation or name calling during play is NOT a Limit.   Meaning this is something to talk about before jumping into with her.  Would recommend you explore this with some other activity that you both currently enjoy first, i.e. Bodyworship or whatever else. 

When it comes time for me to check up on them.  I will be asking them "Is my little fuck slut ass hurting yet?", "Does it hurt?", "Does it hurt bad?", "How bad?" Oh course, I'll have my remarks of satisfaction to the answers they give.  However, I'm basically expecting a quick response back. I had warmed them up to responding quicky from the start of things.   In part, I can use their response time answering my questions as one of the things to Guage WTF is going on.   I try to avoid asking question such as "Do you want more", "Can it take more", "Shall I continue" and etc...  Sometimes, I will make them say something after each whack for awhile.  Such as "Thank you Sir", "Thank You Daddy".  Again, something to that can also be used to guage their response.  Not only the time it takes them to respond, but also changes in tone of voice or breathing.  If this is a long spanking session, I might start out this way, then drop having them answer questions or repeat a phrase after each blow.   I will pace things and experiment a little, pauses between each spank, and intensity. I will take check up breaks, perhaps trace my flogger, hands or whatever evil device around their body, and make wicked nasty comments, all while checking up on their physical state.   Good lord, I'll be typing forever at this rate.  But I think this gives you a basic idea of how somebody can pull off checking up somebody, without asking "Are you OK?" and making it obvious that you are checking up on them.   I tend to change things up, and not do the same old thing all the time.   

Damn, I just have one more thing to add.  You can have your submissive try to maintain a certain posture during play.  Her ability to maintain and hold this posture can be used as another thing to guage WTF is going on with her.  Believe it or not there is method to a lot of the things a Dom/top does during a scene, many of these things have more than one reason or purpose.

I think somebody already pointed out, verbal interaction can disrupt hitting or maintaining subspace.  Something to consider if this is your spanking or scene goal.  Some subs have never been able to achieve or hit subspace, others fall right into naturally.

Everybody is a little different, in how they physically or mentally respond.  Take you time, and slowly explore things with your partner.  Relax and enjoy it.  Start off with shorter spanking sessions.  Get a feel for things.  Even if it's just for few spanks of the ass for the first time. Basically, don't start off with high expectations or goals.  Trying to send your submissive off into subspace is not a realistic goal when you are just starting out.

Well, I think I've over typed myself to death.  It's good to ask questions, read what everbody posts here.  Doing research reading books, and getting your mindset prepared for spanking.  Everybody has thier own style, tastes and ways about doing it crops, canes, floggers, paddles, wooden spoons, rulers, hairbrushes....  also, some people don't spank with the Goal of causing very much pain as well.  Since your girl, is really new to all this.. I would slowly work up and allow you and her to discover her maso pain tolerences together.   It's better to hear from her the next day talking about the scene that she could have taken a little more, or wished you went a little further with it.    

Spanking does not have to be a painful activitity.  Back to spanking Goals again.  Yes, some people simply enjoy the sensation of light pain on their ass.   Some people are not comfortable with leaving deep bruises.   Some people actually want to be able to sit down in a chair aferwards and not be feeling it for days on end afterwards.  LOL...

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/23/2007 10:20:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile


I am the wicked evil overload and I'm gonna spank her good.



LMAO!!! Love it!

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/24/2007 7:43:21 AM   
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My dom and I use the yellow/red safeword set up, yellow if I am close to reaching my limit (As in, this is okay, but if you go much harder I may call an end to it). It seems to work and lets him know when it is getting too overwhelming for me, which changes on a day to day basis, or a scene to scene basis (over his knee I can take much more, as opposed to blindfolded and tied down to the bed, which he is aware of)

Another idea we have used and enjoyed is that he has asked me to thank him if I have been enjoying something. So he will be spanking me and watching and may stop, and until I thank him again, he may not continue. It is a turn on for both of us, him for knowing I am enjoying it (I would not thank him otherwise) and me because it is slightly humiliating to thank someone for a spaking/flogging/whatever the verb of the day is.

From my understanding and from talking to people, what you are feeling is normal, and good that you are seeking tips or help or just someplace to vent. It is something I know I would be worried about if/when I get into a dom position. Mind if I come back to you for tips if I get there? ;)

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/24/2007 12:23:03 PM   
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Very difficult question mainly because I agree with you that sometimes asking can break the mood and focus.
You really cant rely on the sub to tell you where she is at in many cases becuase they are relying on you to know when enough is enough AND they want to please you so will just keep taking it and taking it.
If this is someone you play with on a regular basis what I would suggest is to do what you are doing by taking slow. Slowly build every scene taking her a little farther until when you talk afterward she says that its enough. Now dont expect her to say that, she may say something like that was really intense and almost didnt make it or somthing like that. Either way it will probably be a differant response then she has used before.
The thing is that there are those who need a lot to fly while others dont. It is so individulized that saying exactly what to do or how far you need to go isnt possible.
The mainthing is is YOU have to stay focused and watchout for her. One of the mainthings I am always aware of is when they stop reacting at that point it is time to stop because they are flying and at that point you could do anything to her and go too far.
I dont like a system of safewords because I feel it makes the sub think too much. I use one safeword and if its uttered then everything stops, I hold her., tell her its ok and bring her down emotionally. A lot of subs feel like they have failed if they safe out so you need to reassure them its ok.
Bottomline is so slow, keep an eye on her, stay focused on her and be prepared to do what ever it is to get her to fly, if that is what she wants.

William

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/26/2007 6:02:20 PM   
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Hello.........I am rather new here and I have a question for a Master.I was recently givin a bdsm checklist and have shown a few people  and they say that if it was real,then why is it not put on all sites.It is a checklist from ...everything.com.I was told to read and fill out by the weekend,i called it ridiculous,How am I to answer all those questions when in fact i do not even know yet if it is something i may like since i have not experienced them as of yet............if anyone knows of this list from everything.com .........am I wrong and being a disrespectful so called,lol..brat if i do not fill this out?  Confused....ty!    aDevoted1

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/26/2007 6:47:53 PM   
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Along the lines of what aparootsa i have found it to be really helpful when i have a submissive there keeping an eye on me. I have not gotten a lot of experience yet but  the scene which i feel like went the best for me, where i went the most to subspace and did not end up feeling weird after was one where i was bent over with my head in his submissive's lap. Not that this could necessarily work for you because i know and trust both these people and they know me so the girl you are playing with may not be as comfortable with this as i was but it worked quite well for me. I remember him asking me where i was at but i also remember seeing her communicating with him about what she was getting from my reactions. You see she could see the little smile that would come onto my face as the blows became harder that he might have missed and that i was too spacey to really communicate when asked ( i generally just say "i'm good" lol). I also had someone who was there to stroke my hair as she noticed me become unsure and to constantly remind me to breath (something i seem to forget). Not only was this helpful for me but i think that he was able to relax and trust my responses more when he had someone keeping a constant eye. I have done the same for her and think that it has been a very good way to introduce me to it all. 

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/26/2007 9:01:41 PM   
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When MJ an I saw eachother last, we had some play time  that involved His belt {purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs} and me being bound.  We have gone over safewords and limits; I am not a fan of using my safewords yet, I do, thats why I have them.  At one particular point, I was on the edge of where it was no longer a 'yummmmy ouch' but a 'damn that hurts ouch' and I used one of my safewords, 'yellow' {warning, getting intense}.  MJ stopped for a moment, rubbed my inner thighs where He had been belting, and did a few more, then stopped.
 
The next morning, we talked as we were walking to His car; He said that He was ready to stop when I said, 'yellow.'  He said that He 'felt' I was about to that point and if I had not said anything, He would have stopped.
 
Being an attentive partner is paramount, I think MJ an I have a bit ofan advantage to those who are newer to things, since I do have training and we bothe have years of experience to go on, plus, we have been friend for a long time, so we have learned to read each other to some extent.
 
I thought about that night later, and would I have said 'red' that night, I don't think I would have, I don't think MJ would have let me get that far.  Just like in a vanilla relationship, you learn to read your partner and learn their body and their sounds and who they are. MJ has asked me to 'answer' Him to let Him know I am ok, He wanted verbal feedback at times, otherwise, a purrrrrrrrrrrr or moan will surfice.

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RE: Sensing limits - 8/27/2007 7:06:00 AM   
sadomasokisti


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When I have a safe word, I sometimes can't help but to think why I'm enduring this, which I could stop any time.  It bothers me because I cannot focus on the pain and enjoy what is being done to me.

We use signal system for two reasons. One is I'm usually gagged and the second it sometimes unsettles my mood.
Squeeze one shoulder to check if everything is ok and squeeze both shoulders if she wants to go further (add more or new pain) but she is not sure if I'm able to go any further.  That eliminates the verbal questions for us.  My emergency signal is reserved for physical emergency such as nausea, likelihood of fainting etc.

We were playing once with friend of ours in a heavy S&M session and she asked (very nicely, with nothing but good intentions) if I was being ok, and I answered with a grumpy voice and in a rude way that she was being too f****** nice...  I'll just say it hurt a lot more in the end.

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