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The missing category - 7/24/2007 6:01:13 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		Does anyone else think that there's probably too big a jump in self-described experience levels for interests on the profile section of Collarme?  The three levels you can choose from are Beginner, Average and Expert.

It seems to me that there are big gaps between those categories, particularly when you get into areas in which some people are really into extreme play.  (CBT comes to mind).  I would think that, at a minimum, there should be an "Advanced" level between Average and Expert, to distinguish frequent practitioners from really extreme edge players.

Has anyone had any misperceptions/ misunderstandings arise as a result of different interpretation of these experience levels?

Just curious,
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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 7:25:23 PM   
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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 7:45:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, no problem here so far.  I used to use the differentations in level but it didn't seem to matter much in any direction... only that I can't ever call myself an "expert" in something as there's always more to learn.

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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 7:54:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's what the open space in your profile is for- clarify anything you feel needs further clarification.

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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 8:59:12 PM   
LadyHeart


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Status: offline 		I see those missing categories as the starting point for dialogue. There's no "bi curious" category either. And some of the other categories don't state whether you are interested from your own or your play partner's point of view. Take "stockings" for example - does that mean you like wearing them, or seeing the other person in them? If you want a form that is going to cover everything, then it's going to be a very big form, and will still leave a lot of room for miscommunication

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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 9:02:16 PM   
MsSonnetMarwood


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Status: offline 		Honestly?  I think they need to address the issue of not having a listing for relationship status (i.e. married, single, involved, etc) before they need to clarify how expert is expert.



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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 9:14:34 PM   
octavia


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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

Honestly?  I think they need to address the issue of not having a listing for relationship status (i.e. married, single, involved, etc) before they need to clarify how expert is expert.




I would second that.

More categories wouldn't really do much to clarify specifically from person to person for me.  One person's expert is another persons beginner.  More catagories won't change the different ways that people percieve themselves and others.

jmho,
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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 9:18:56 PM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		Everyone is going to have their own interpretation of what each category means, so what means "average" for you might only rate "beginner" in someone else's mind. It's enough to let someone know your interests, and your enthusiasm about the subject.

i think MsSonnetMarwood has a good idea in suggesting a category that for relationship status.

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RE: The missing category - 7/24/2007 9:48:27 PM   
peppermint


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Status: offline 		No, no problems with the experience levels at all. 

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 12:00:51 AM   
CuriousLord


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Status: offline 		People often misrepresent themselves- either for deviation from normal standards in considerations or less honest reasons- even with the more simplistic system.

There's no point in having a system that would lead to a deceptive level of percision at the cost of accuracy.

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 2:50:25 AM   
ProlificNeeds


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Status: offline 		I generally ignore the 'ranking' of how profecient they are, unless there's a piece of paper nationally recognizing them for a skill level in something, it's all subjective to opinions.
I'd call myself an expert at 'camping/expeditioning' but I'm sure survival man would call me an amature.

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 3:15:20 AM   
mefisto69


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Status: offline 		how about taking out 'expert' and replacing it wtih the more lifestyle precise - "journyeman" ?

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 5:28:36 AM   
PairOfDimes


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Status: offline 		Nope, most things have three tiers--"beginner," "intermediate," and "advanced" are the most common.

Also, "expert" doesn't necessarily mean "unable to play without drawing blood" or even "prefers very heavy play," Sure, it's typical for heavy players to be fairly skilled (one hopes!) but it doesn't necessarily go the other way around--that is, fairly skilled players don't universally have a taste for heavy SM.

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 5:40:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		No problems. I look at those as just indicators. Not written in concrete.
It is also good for conversation starters. Makes interesting reading.


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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 7:29:26 AM   
MisPandora


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Status: offline 		That label is about as useful as the age field that doesn't auto-update for someone's birthday.

I'd rather have a selection for single, married, dating, poly, whatever.  It'd keep me away from the otherwise involved individuals seeking "stuff on the side."

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 7:40:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

Does anyone else think that there's probably too big a jump in self-described experience levels for interests on the profile section of Collarme?  The three levels you can choose from are Beginner, Average and Expert.

It seems to me that there are big gaps between those categories, particularly when you get into areas in which some people are really into extreme play.  (CBT comes to mind).  I would think that, at a minimum, there should be an "Advanced" level between Average and Expert, to distinguish frequent practitioners from really extreme edge players.

Has anyone had any misperceptions/ misunderstandings arise as a result of different interpretation of these experience levels?

Just curious,
ATP


They are just a starting point.  I would never make an assumption of what that one word indicates without talking to the person who used it first.

Also, while I find it an interesting suggestion regarding a listing for where the person is "at" in terms of their status with others...single, involved, married, etc...given the number of posts on these boards about people who lied about it once conversation started, I can't see why there would not be those who lied right from the start with their posting of their status.

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RE: The missing category - 7/25/2007 8:04:30 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		Collarme does the best it can. We can argue semantics all day...but in the end, we're all trying to say the same thing: there are three levels to choose from one of which is less-than-knowledgable, one of which is knowledgable and one of which is of-great-knowledge. I don't think it takes much work to figure out which means which. If you're undecided, choose the lesser of the two. That way, you're not saying, in any way, that you have skill you don't have.

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