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Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 11:46:34 AM   
Phin


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Status: offline 		I found a belt with patterned studs that will be great for added sensation. What I want to do is fold the belt in half and glue the two sides together. Is there an adhesive that will hold the leather together without making it abnormaly stiff?


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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 11:56:04 AM   
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Barge cement - remains flexible over the life of the leather, and is stronger than the leather fibers so will hold up until the point the leather rips.  Follow the instructions on the product very carefully in order to get a full strength bond.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 12:02:42 PM   
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Barge cement 
Is that a brand name or is it a trade name?

Will I find it in the Wal-mart craft section or would I be better off looking in a craft or leather store?  Thanks much for the information

Phin

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 12:09:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jewel Glue by Delta is a good one. Easy to find, inexpensive and a good product. Walmart does carry it in the craft section.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 3:04:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Barge Cement is Contact Cement.It is the brand than most cobblers used before other brands of contact cement became more readily available...therefore many people consider it the penultimate in leather adhesive. It can be found at Tandy and other leather shops but usually not at general craft stores.

I also use DAP Original contact cement and have not found any difference in durability, adhesion or flexibility. It is carried at HomeDepot, Lowes, WalMart etc.

Follow instructions..and be careful. It is flammable until cured and also nasty stuff to inhale.




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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 5:08:45 PM   
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http://www.hanksclothing.com/barge_rubber_cement.html

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 5:22:51 PM   
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This is the stuff you want:

http://www.hanksclothing.com/barge_rubber_cement.html
that quart size just makes my sadistic side think of all kinds of evil stuff...

thanks for all the replys. I will probably get the DAP since I can pick it up tomorrow morning at the Dom Depot

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 5:28:31 PM   
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Barge Cement is Contact Cement.It is the brand than most cobblers used before other brands of contact cement became more readily available...therefore many people consider it the penultimate in leather adhesive.


Then what do they consider to be the ultimate?

i've had good luck with Barge Cement as well, i found it at an outdoorsy-type shop, of all places (was looking for, and found, proper climbing-rated carabiners)... apparently it can be used for repairing tents and other silly accoutrements of people who disdain indoor plumbing.

If you distrust glue, use rivets spaced every couple of inches.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 5:31:31 PM   
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If you distrust glue, use rivets spaced every couple of inches.

It isn't that I distrust glue, I just didn't know what to use. I would have bet that Elmers isnt a good bet. That was the limit of my knowledge. My preferance would be to sow it together, but I dont feel like sowing with a hammer...


Edited to clarify my words...

< Message edited by Phin -- 7/30/2007 5:32:40 PM >

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/30/2007 7:07:48 PM   
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Then what do they consider to be the ultimate?



Damned 'P' words and multitasking.

I should have typed 'pre-eminent'



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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/31/2007 3:43:25 AM   
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It isn't that I distrust glue, I just didn't know what to use. I would have bet that Elmers isnt a good bet. That was the limit of my knowledge. My preferance would be to sow it together, but I dont feel like sowing with a hammer...


I'd rivet it between the studs, both for strength as well as sheer evil presence... heh heh heh


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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/31/2007 5:24:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good old Elmer's white glue.

I've gone through many gallons of Barge Cement over the last thirty years, but sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

cheers

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/31/2007 3:16:29 PM   
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I'd rivet it between the studs, both for strength as well as sheer evil presence... heh heh heh

if I do will we be dragging the lawers in on this one too?

actually the studs are quite small I will post a pic once I am done the rivits may actually be larger than the studs.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 7/31/2007 5:46:21 PM   
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if I do will we be dragging the lawers in on this one too?

actually the studs are quite small I will post a pic once I am done the rivits may actually be larger than the studs.


Naw.. no more lawyers. :-)

Looking forward to seeing the finished result.. I've made a mental note to go hit some Goodwill stores to look for studded belts.. :-)


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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/1/2007 1:02:42 PM   
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if you only need a little you can also get Barge Cement in 2 ounce tubes at Ace Hardware.  BTW - if you need strength for something like a sling or anything that will be weight bearing nothing beats #9 copper rivets and burrs.  Punch all your mating holes, use the Barge Cement to bond (you can use golf tees to get all the holes aligned before you clamp), and then rivet.  If you are interested in sewing leather once again it is best to bond first with cement, then pre-mark and drill the holes for the stitches with a bit slightly smaller than the diameter of the needles you are using.  Best running stitch I have found for doing leather work is referred to as saddle stitching - needle at both ends of the thread and send each needle through the hole so the thread crosses itself and then tie a square knot and pull it tight into the hole.  This way if the thread breaks on either face of the leather the stitching cannot unravel.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/1/2007 6:35:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		instynctive, Actually I found the belt a a store we have in the area called Rugged Warehouse, they sell factory seconds and such I paid more for the DAP than I did for the belt.

lisub4one, after looking at the belt again I think that the adhesive will be the best touch, but I will keep your directions for the sewing. they very well might get used in the future.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/2/2007 10:58:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'e found Barge's at Jo-Ann's Fabrics, Long's, Wal-Green's, most hardware stores, shoe repair places, Tandy, Michael's, Dom Depot, etc. It's pretty good stuff.

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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/5/2007 9:22:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lessons learned here:

1. don't use a belt you got off of the clearance rack at a factory seconds store...
2. know when to say when on the glue
3. make a relief cut in the leather where the fold needs to go.

oh well at least I am throwing out a belt i only payed a buck for...

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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/5/2007 9:29:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I say toss it out and look around,I am sure there are some straps out there that may be what you want...

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RE: Leather adhesive - 8/5/2007 9:31:16 AM   
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I found a belt with patterned studs that will be great for added sensation. What I want to do is fold the belt in half and glue the two sides together. Is there an adhesive that will hold the leather together without making it abnormaly stiff? 


I dunno... I kind of like a stiffie, but to each their own,
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