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ORIGINAL: RMarx
I am a complete virgin to BDSM but I hope that changes soon.  In the meantime I am trying to gain as much knowledge as I can.  I keep reading about sub zone and sub drop.  Is there any relationship between the two?  Are subs who go into sub zone more likely to experience sub drop?

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

I may be way off base here biut I don't see why a male sub wouldn't experience sub drop. It is possible we don't hear that much as many males don't freely express emotions to the extent that females do. And yes, there are always exceptions to this!

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Sub males most certainly do experience subspace and subsequent drops. 

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ORIGINAL: littlebitxxx

Hello RMarx,
Subspace and subdrop are subjects near and dear to my heart.

Subspace is the body's natural defence to stimulation, either painful or pleasurable. 
When stimulus happens, the body goes into a natural fight or flight mode and adrenalin is released.  If adrenalin is released constantly the body can go into overload, whereby endorphins are released in the brain to try and dull the pain.  i associate it with runner's high...the point where you feel your legs burn and your chest heaving and you feel you can't take another step...then all of a sudden the pain goes away and you feel as if you can run forever.   Once endorphins are flying around, all stimulus becomes one, there is no separation of pain or pleasure.  Usually at this point the body become one huge receptor and the mind just dissociates.  ie, "If i'm not here, i can't feel it." 

Subdrop happens naturally after that.  With all those chemicals flying around your body there is a withdrawal period afterward, resultant of your blood sugar dropping rapidly and the endorphins leaving your body.  It can come immediately, later in the day, 2 or 3 days later or may not come at all.  Everyone is different.  Some symptoms are cold, vibrating, depression, euphoria, a turning inwards, manic feeling.  Aftercare is vital  immediately after and a continuing watchfulness by the Dom to make sure all its okay.  It can take the form of cuddling, having a cool drink, talking.  After all, you just got beaten upon, usually with a weapon, by the one person you love/trust/respect above all others....it can do stuff to your head.

Having said that, subspace and subdrop happen differently for all people.  And it can happen differently to the same person in various situations.  Get to know yourself and how you react and discuss it with the Top/Dom you are with. 

Happy scening!
sage

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ORIGINAL: came4U
I would assume, the deeper the sub space the more aftercare (if she needs that sort of thing or if she/he can merely shake it off) the more of a sub drop likeliness if the proper aftercare wasn't given. 

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Makes me sad if someone would be left in the lurches if their Dominant did not provide the appropriate or rightly amount of aftercare. It is a dangerous if not more dangerous than the actual bdsm act to disregard such care. My friend is going through this..her Dominant does not prescribe to aftercare grr..she becomes manic and frantic within hours after., to the point that she is so utterly confused she drove to the store and didn't even realize it was 3 am and a bad bad part of town.   

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ORIGINAL: came4U
She handles her play just fine. 

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 I would only wish her Dom wouldn't be so cold and flippant once he has had his fun.   I think she implied an interest in remaining bound lightly for a while after, in replacement of his 'lacking' in this topic, but if he falls asleep hmmm.  Not sure what to tell her. I sure know what I want to tell him LOL.