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They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 5:58:16 PM

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Kind of an interesting opinion piece floating around today. I'm inclined to agree with the idea that the hate on display is a fear reaction, but I'm curious what others think.

Check it out HERE

Rudy Giuliani's quest for the presidency isn't one I embrace, but the vitriol (perhaps born of fear that he could win in 2008) leveled against him by the elite media and left wing magazines is surely disproportionate.

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 6:20:29 PM

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As far as Republican candidates go, he's a heavy-hitter. As far as fear goes ... ~shrug~ ... it's more like partisan loathing, on both sides.

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 6:24:18 PM

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Interesting article, Rich.

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It's been my impression that the majority of Democrats couldn't possibly conjure up anyone who's "worse" than Bush.

Exactly; I'd have figured it'd take Hitler himself, clawing his way out of the worm pits, to overtake Bush in the field of horrification.

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Pre-Giuliani, I used to walk home at night to Tribeca-about a mile from the office-in the middle of the street, like many residents did. Baker claims that the infamous (and often belligerent) squeegee men who preyed on motorists at busy intersections were gone by the time Giuliani took office after defeating Dinkins in 1993. Maybe we lived and worked in different neighborhoods, but this simply wasn't the case: smalltime thugs, panhandlers and throngs of homeless people seemed to vanish within a year of Giuliani's first term.

Okay, what'd Rudy do with them?

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 6:46:26 PM

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smalltime thugs, panhandlers and throngs of homeless people seemed to vanish within a year of Giuliani's first term.

Okay, what'd Rudy do with them?

Soylent green?

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 6:51:48 PM

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smalltime thugs, panhandlers and throngs of homeless people seemed to vanish within a year of Giuliani's first term.

Okay, what'd Rudy do with them?

Soylent green?

Oh sure, blame the NRA and Charlton Heston.......

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 7:01:14 PM

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Okay, what'd Rudy do with them?

Pretty sure we'd have heard about the death camps. Maybe they got jobs?

Since the article says they were gone early in his first term, and he was re-elected, it might be safe to say a majority of New Yorkers didn't care.

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 7:22:29 PM

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I like ol Rudy, really, he can't be much worse than our current goofball president. He dosen't seem to be the type to take any shit from anybody.

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RE: They Seem Kinda Nervous - 7/31/2007 10:26:33 PM

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I had cause to visit NYC a lot through the 90's and the first few years of this century. Rudy certainly had his successes. Times Square comes to mind. However Rudy had a lot of questionable stuff too. The police Street Crimes Unit's excesses occured under his watch and essentially at his behest.His various attempts to censor art also is not something that makes me think he should be elected to high office. His estrangement from his adult children is not something I can easily overlook either.

However I'm not such a fool to believe all the hype about his 9/11 performance. He was braver than GWB and that certainly counts for something but using untrained round the clock labor at the WTC site was a bad and dangerous idea.

All in all Rudy is the only GOP candidate I would ever even consider voting for but that isn't saying much.

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