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camille65 -> A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 7:19:02 AM)

Todays topic is 'Perspective'. Almost a rant but I do have a question.

Like every forum there is sniping and passive aggression tossed about. Usually I can manage to see the others side which gives me the ability to let go of the mental friction I feel towards them.
However there are  some people here that I'm finding impossible when it comes to empathy. Okay, 2 people lol. I cannot seem to be able to understand 'where they come from' nor can I seem to manage to meet them halfway. (I want to shake them by the shoulders and holler that it is NOT all about them lol).
No matter how I try and read them all I see is bitterness, inflated ego & a heavy dose of 'my way is the best way so I really pity anyone not me'.
Should I just keep swallowing it? Or spit it out hahaha.

How do you all handle it? Aside from blocking, I prefer not to block cuz despite the irritation they cause me there is the chance they may say something that strikes a chord. It's part of that whole pollyanna bit inside of me that says everyone has worth.
Poor pollyanna is feeling a bit jaded today! It brings to mind the thread on 'are there useless people'. Not being able to find something valuable after a couple thousand posts by someone is not something I'm used to and I want to change that so I'm asking for help on it.
[:-]




kittinSol -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 7:32:45 AM)

jenny/camille, the best way to deal with that is through passive agressive response. Say: thank you for giving me the opportunity to hear your point of view.

Not that I ever manage to do that, it's quite obvious, but I have observed others doing it... and it works.

Now, who the hell are you talking about, more specifically? [;)]




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 7:39:45 AM)

They only irritate you as much as you allow them.  Stop taking it personally, or if you do- laugh at yourself for taking it personally and move on.




camille65 -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 7:42:36 AM)

It isn't so much that I take it personally. It is more along the lines of they offer nothing except the crowing of their own perfection.
Yes I can and do laugh at that, but sometimes it just feels like a pebble in my shoe.




kittinSol -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 7:47:38 AM)

Absolutely, which is why a seemingly passive response seems to work.




CuriousLord -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:08:34 AM)

I'd suggest you just do what's best for you.  What do you come to the forums for?

I think everyone has their hot buttons.  Depending on what these hot buttons are, and how many of them there are, it's rather easy to get some people upset.  For some, it's a political issue.  For others, it's a relationship sort of stance.  For yet others, it's if someone's gay or not.

These hot buttons aren't entirely misplaced.  We want to see ourselves in others.  The source of empathy.  When someone else is surficiently different in one of our core values- it's easy to get mad at them.

Not to be overly blunt, but would you mind if I used you as an example?  I doubt this will be offensive, but perhaps helpful.

Seeing others being harsh seems to upset you.  So, perhaps, to you, kindness and patience is important?  You look down on such individuals for not exhibiting these qualities?  You'd probably get mad at them- which it looks like you're trying to find permission for- though, to do so, you'd be hypocritical, so it looks like you're bottling it up a bit.  But, point being- they're being in a manner you look down on.  You're even making a thread specifically about it, though I doubt you want to be a hypocrtic as to directly insult them.  (In short, you can't stand mean people.)

Again, I think everyone has their hot buttons.  Me?  I utterly despise people that don't think things through thoroughly.  I define myself as a thinker- and can't empathize with people who would chose other things before reason- even happiness.  When someone does something that seems contrary to reason or earnest inquary, it drives me nuts.  (In short, I can't stand stupid people.)

We all have our reasons.  And, to others, perhaps even a purpose.

Myself, I rather doubt many people should even talk to me, unless they either share a high value in intelligence or care for an accurate discussion on a particular issue.  My views on the value of being correct and accurate are extreme- I believe in such before happiness, both others' and my own personal happiness.  Therefore, if the truth isn't pleasant, I'm still not one to back off.  Those who enjoy being happy should avoid such morbid discussions with me as I'm not likely to take their feelings over being sincere and honest.

You?  Someone would probably want to be around you to cheer up.  To smile.  (Provided I do not misunderstand you at the points that cause me to believe this.)  Which isn't such a bad thing.  People value happiness pretty heavily, and it does serve as a rather practical means in many cases.

I think you'd be happy around other people with similar values.  Who want things to be pleasant- provided I understand your position fairly well enough.  Perhaps, if you sought such individuals, you'd be happy.  Nonetheless, I would encourage you not to be upset at other individuals with differing core values.

Forgive me if this post is disjointed.  Haven't slept in about a week now.

PS-  I used myself as an example as I know myself well enough to make such statements.  I used you as an example because, well, you're the one who made the orginial post- though, if I misunderstand you, I mean no offense- I'm simply guessing from the handful of posts I've seen you make before.  Even if it is a misunderstanding, I hope the point comes across- the mechanism, as opposed to the conclusion.




camille65 -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:20:44 AM)

Not at all disjointed CL. Quite accurate in fact.
I do get upset with harshness & rudeness. I guess the reason I hang out here is a part of that, I'm here to understand other people & learn of other lives which includes personality traits I'm unused to.

When people get angry my first instinct is to try and understand why they are harsh, most of the time I think it is because they are unhappy with something in their own world. That I'm learning to manage.
What is bothering me (my OP) is when someone is repeatedly condescending and arrogant in a manner that is for lack of a better word, snarky.
'How do I handle this issue with my Master?' to be answered with something along the lines of 'Well that never happens to us because our relationship is just perfect'.

I don't understand why someone would do that. It implies (to me) that the OP is lacking, or the master is lacking. Otherwise wouldn't it be just perfect too? I don't feel I'm explaining this well lol. Maybe it is a variation on, if you don't like the thread then skip it.

If it doesn't apply to you to such a strong degree then why post that?




Mikal -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:24:42 AM)

Usually, I just think to myself "well, there's another person to strike off of my list as a potential gene sharer". Works wonders at supermarkets and highways too! [:D]

As for your 'should I just keep swallowing?" question... why allow it into your body to begin with? If you're into electrical play, this may not help, but repeat after me: you are all just pixels on my screen... coloured pretty pixels of light on my screen. You are nothing but a happy electron in my screen.

Don't believe me? Lick one of the posters on your screen then im them to see if your slobber is on their face.





sophia37 -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:27:58 AM)

Start treating them like the joke they really are. Unless that is, I happen to be the person who annoys you. In that case, you need to change your outlook all together, and submit to my every word. lolololol xo Yes, laughter IS the best medicine. Try it sometime. 




Alumbrado -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:40:55 AM)

quote:

Yes, laughter IS the best medicine. Try it sometime. 


Agreed..  the difference between being mad at someone, and laughing at them, is probably ultimately up to you.




Mikal -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:43:22 AM)

*grins* Like every other nosy parker here... who are the two who've earned your distain? Feel free to message me... especially if I'm one of them! [:-]




camille65 -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:45:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sophia37

Start treating them like the joke they really are. Unless that is, I happen to be the person who annoys you. In that case, you need to change your outlook all together, and submit to my every word. lolololol xo Yes, laughter IS the best medicine. Try it sometime. 


See I'd rather understand the whys of it. If I can understand the intent then it becomes a different thing altogether so I deal with it differently.
When I know the 'why' of things I gain a new perspective of them but with some I just can't seem to understand so it gets under my skin!




feastie -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 11:49:05 AM)

camille,

There's all kinds of people on these boards, just like there are in life.  They're all going to behave differently, whether anyone else finds it to be appropriate or not.

It does have the sad effect, however, of becoming irritating if one allows it to happen.  It used to bother me a lot.  I took an extended break from the boards, partly because of that and partly because I just didn't have the time to spend on them.  I've been back in recent days because I do now have the time to spend.  This time around, though, I just chalk up certain people and certain answers in my "doesn't need my attention" file and get on with it.




slaveluci -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 12:58:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: camille65
'How do I handle this issue with my Master?' to be answered with something along the lines of 'Well that never happens to us because our relationship is just perfect'

camille,
Whenever I read someone either directly stating or implying that they, their master, and/or their relationship is "perfect," that tells me one thing.  They aren't telling the truth.  Whether it's through deliberate deception or just being a bit deluded is up for debate. 

I believe there are people who have "near perfect" relationships.  I believe my Master and I are two of them.  But total perfection - never an issue, never a problem, never any disagreement on any matter - is impossible since we're all still very human.

This same thing used to bother me, as well, because it kind of made me wonder where I was going wrong.  Master and I love each other totally, are totally committed to each other, and are very sympatico on nearly every issue and yet we still have moments when things are far from perfect because life happens.  How can these other folks be perfect then?  It didn't take long to realize they can't be.  They may never have the issue that a particular thread is about but something tells me they have much deeper ones if they can't admit their relationship isn't total perfection[;)].  There's nothing wrong with that.  We can all learn and improve in some way, I think.................luci 




BitaTruble -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:02:06 PM)

I understand not wanting to block because of the occasional gems. To me, those rarities aren't worth all the posts which require hip waders so I do block, but.. I digress. I suggest you go up to the search button.. (it's on the upper right hand side near the top of the forum just above the flags) and click it. Put stef in the 'author' field and pull up her posts then click on any one of them. Print out her sig line and post it near your computer and whenever you are at your limit, just read it. [;)]

Celeste




Stephann -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:05:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

They only irritate you as much as you allow them.  Stop taking it personally, or if you do- laugh at yourself for taking it personally and move on.


Exactly.

The world is only as harsh and cruel as we allow ourselves to see.  People die miserable grisly deaths daily, of all manner of disease, hatred, and strife.  We have to have the common sense to only allow what we can stomach into our lives.

Stephan






FullCircle -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:06:08 PM)

I don’t think anything written here is going to win any awards or prizes so I mainly try to have fun. I won’t let anyone spoil the fun I have because life is hard and I like to escape that here. I know what you mean about the arrogant types and I never listen to anyone who will never admit to a mistake they have made. If I went through life only doing things right I’d ask where the challenge is that life is supposed to be. I would also say that some need to learn not to take themselves too seriously. Humility is a good quality to have and it’s the first thing I look for.




LaTigresse -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:14:07 PM)

My first reaction when something someone posts annoys me is to ask myself WHY it annoys me.

Quite often it reflects back to me, something I need to work on, within myself, at some level. Not necessarily that I am exactly like what is bugging me but yet there is something there that I need to learn from.

Fortunately I just tend to find most of the weird stuff purely entertaining. At the very least it gives me reason to sit back and think "damn, I have got it GOOD!!!" knowing how wonderfully peaceful, and sane, my own little world is in comparison.




Alhazred -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:16:26 PM)

It's easy to be a buzz kill, it's hard to stay up... It doesn't pay to "deal" with twits who use these forums as a social prosthesis for a wanked up life in R/T. Let the psychologists and counselors "deal" with the twits.

twit 1. to taunt, tease, ridicule, etc.




LadyLynx -> RE: A Matter of Perspective, Or How To Deal With Those That Really Get Under Your Skin (8/1/2007 1:36:41 PM)

I am curious too.  And I hope I am not one of them!




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