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Mirko -> Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 1:47:35 PM)
I had a very interesting encounter at the bar yesterday while meeting people. During my normal course of the night I will meet different sets of groups and talk with them. While talking with a certain group I feel a hard scratch down my back. Normally I'm not being scratched by people in the bar, so I turn around to see a medium sized women - around 5,6 - standing there and she proceeds to grab my nipple. In a very non-chalant manner I tell her in a very slow vocal manner while maintaing contact "You cant just touch this, this ** ain't for free, I'm not just a sausage with feet". I turn around to continue my conversation and she confronts me by saying "do you want to fight". Of course I'm not going to fight a women, and at this point knew she trying gain my validation so I told her "You are going to be my personal ** talker" in a very humorous manner. She continued to press the point, but at this point she was starting to swear so I let her know that she would not be receiving a raise and this time she left. I was interested into how this interaction transpired, and had noticed she would do this to all the males. It seemed to be especially effective on the beta males who equated this aggressive touching to attraction. As many of the Doms here know, women often will touch a male to try to gain validation early on, only to low-ball the interaction. If you were faced with a similiar situation what course of action would you have taken?

LaTigresse -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 1:50:03 PM)
You probably don't want to know what I would do to her...........well you probably do but.......

GhitaAmati -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 1:52:07 PM)
heh...me personally Id have turned around and punched her hard in the nose...but then im often not the most tactful person in the bar

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:04:24 PM)
The 50 foot glaring stare of "Are you an alien?"

Stephann -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:04:51 PM)
There's some elements here that, for me, have been left out. If I thought she was being plain rude, and simply trying to get a rise, I wouldn't have said even as much as you did. I'd look at her, and look away. I've actually been in this situation twice before; the woman in question is usually drunk, and it pisses her off to be ignored. The two times I ignore her, always turn out ugly; once her 'boyfriend' attacked me, the other I was asked to leave the bar by security. In a bar, preponderance (and volume) of accusations goes a lot farther than proof. If I had thought she was being coy, attractive, or interesting, I would probably have danced. I've gone that way, too It's a fine line. Generally, I just avoid bar girls, though. Stephan

mnottertail -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:10:01 PM)
If we read in our morning papers that a rather short and obnoxious girl was ice picked in a bar in michigan, we will know that you have done the right thing.

Mirko -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:20:59 PM)
It helps to know the bar staff, they are normally very good with individuals like this. The story goes that later on in the night she was pushed into a wall. She tried this tactic on a bouncer and it didnt go over very well.

Stephann -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:27:55 PM)
Yes, it does. Unfortunately, I've only been a regular at bars where I perform at. To be fair, it's an assumption most men have earned; 90% of the time, when there's a physical altercation, it's a man who starts it. Stephan

LaTigresse -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 2:39:40 PM)
There really is something to be said for gay bars if you are a woman, straight or not. MOST women are not as offensive as the one in this story regardless of their sexuality. And well, if it is a gay bar.....none of the guys are going to grope a woman. Kind of a win win deal. Not that this will be of any use at all to the guys here.........[:D]

Gwynvyd -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 3:02:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse There really is something to be said for gay bars if you are a woman, straight or not. MOST women are not as offensive as the one in this story regardless of their sexuality. And well, if it is a gay bar.....none of the guys are going to grope a woman. Kind of a win win deal. Not that this will be of any use at all to the guys here.........[:D] I have to agree, most gay women in a gay bar will leave the guys alone.. most of the fights are between batches of girls. I would rather have to break up a fight with 20 queens then 2 lesbians. < I did club security on my down time > I generaly tend to watch for the crazies in a room. I never leave my back to a room of people, or a door for that reason. Drunk idiots abound. How I react depends on my mood, who I know in the club... and the room situation. If in a bad mood I am sure I would have called her Cupcake or pumpkin at least once. If you get called that by me and I am not sleeping with you we have a problem. I normaly do the security nod to who ever is in charge and get them tossed the heck out. If they arent handy, and I know the owner well I become security. I walk them to the door, and find security. The are you insane stare is generaly best and ignoring them for most. Gwyn

Babybass -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 3:34:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mirko The story goes that later on in the night she was pushed into a wall. She tried this tactic on a bouncer and it didnt go over very well. Yeah for that bouncer!!!! He did the right thing! there is no excuse for rudness - rude people deserve to be smacked across the head (or would that be considered rude)....

Lordandmaster -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 3:41:12 PM)
I would have tied her up, fucked her in the ass, and written a bogus phone number in Sharpie on her back. Oh, but I think I would have smiled first. quote: ORIGINAL: Mirko If you were faced with a similiar situation what course of action would you have taken?

kittinSol -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 3:49:37 PM)
Mirko, from the age of eight I was regularly grabbed, poked, felt and touched in all sorts of places by complete strangers: at the cinema, in the public library, in bookshops, travelling... all over the place. I must have looked pretty appetising to those bastards. It used to reduce me to a state of complete despondency: I wasn't 'strong' enough to fight back and those people know better than to act in full view of others, so nobody that was with me ever saw a thing. Then, gradually, as I grew up and became a woman (as opposed to a little girl), the perverts started to feel I wasn't so vulnerable that they could just touch me like that. It's not appealing to a pervert to touch someone they feel could fight back. Perhaps you seemed vulnerable to that woman. Forgive me for the rant: all this to say that whatever one's gender and age or experience, whatever we do, whatever we look like... well, nobody has the right to touch us out of the blue. Now, I was heavily into the London rave scene in the nineties, where strangers would come up to me out of the blue in clubs and hug me silly, telling me they loved me: that was different, it was very 'unsexual' (we were all on MDMA). Do you think that some women feel they've a right to display such sexual aggressivity?

Mirko -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 4:21:39 PM)
quote: Do you think that some women feel they've a right to display such sexual aggressivity? Without knowing their personal histories and psychology it would not be a jump to assume that it is a reinforced behavior. Some men or women would react very favorably to this kind of aggression. Like Pavlovs dogs, if a behavior is reinforced enough it becomes internalized and part of their beliefs. In their mind it is their unalienable right written into the constitution. From the receivers perspective, it comes down to what level of aggression is crossing the line. Most if not everyone who has posted on this thread would have taken an equal if not stronger stance to that kind of aggression.

DiurnalVampire -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 4:29:40 PM)
In my expeirence, women like that are trying to prove something. They are looking to pick a fight then play the victim. Most of the time, they will pull this crap on a guy they are pretty sure will NOT return their aggression. I've seen similiar things happen. I had a pet who was very docile and every time we went out othe bars, he wa a prime target for aggression like this. It makes a womam who has something to prove feel ike theyve got the upper hand. However, theyd never do anything like that when the guy is with a single femae who might take up for them, or if the guy is acting aggressively and might take it up themselves. DV

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 7:58:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mirko I had a very interesting encounter at the bar yesterday while meeting people. During my normal course of the night I will meet different sets of groups and talk with them. While talking with a certain group I feel a hard scratch down my back. Normally I'm not being scratched by people in the bar, so I turn around to see a medium sized women - around 5,6 - standing there and she proceeds to grab my nipple. In a very non-chalant manner I tell her in a very slow vocal manner while maintaing contact "You cant just touch this, this ** ain't for free, I'm not just a sausage with feet". I turn around to continue my conversation and she confronts me by saying "do you want to fight". Of course I'm not going to fight a women, and at this point knew she trying gain my validation so I told her "You are going to be my personal talker" in a very humorous manner. She continued to press the point, but at this point she was starting to swear so I let her know that she would not be receiving a raise and this time she left. I was interested into how this interaction transpired, and had noticed she would do this to all the males. It seemed to be especially effective on the beta males who equated this aggressive touching to attraction. As many of the Doms here know, women often will touch a male to try to gain validation early on, only to low-ball the interaction. If you were faced with a similiar situation what course of action would you have taken? Let me get this straight: -You never met her before. -This was your very first time even speaking to her? -She asked if you wanted to fight her? WTF???? Mirko, I can assure you, had it been me in that bar, I would have approached you in a VERY different way[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m11.gif[/image]... edited to add: Sausage with feet! That's funny!!

iammachine -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/1/2007 9:00:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse . And well, if it is a gay bar.....none of the guys are going to grope a woman. Kind of a win win deal. Not that this will be of any use at all to the guys here.........[:D] I beg to differ! I get more cleavage motorboats at gay bars than I do anywhere else! I think its just engrained into most of humanity to like boobies, though. [:D]

Focus50 -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/2/2007 4:16:07 AM)
M or F, I don't just stand there all nonchalant when someone assaults me. I've been around the block enough to know that the murderous look I would've had on my face would not have encouraged a fight challenge from some feisty female.... Focus.

SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/2/2007 4:31:05 AM)
i know a lady who is called "the groper"......she shows up from time to time at places i go to hear a few local bands....her thing is groping the ass of men, rather firmly, from what i hear, and sometimes groping the "package" also. what amazes me is the men will laugh it off when it happens, then bitch for weeks....i finally said if one of you would turn around and tell her to keep her fucking hands to her self, it might stop....i mean, if a man were doing this to women, imagine the response he would get... the few men that have said something to her, have been laughed at (by her), and told that is her signature......and a few of the wives and g/f's have told her to keep her hands off their SO.... but she just doesnt get it........and im afraid she never will until someone goes psycho on her groping ass......

Grlwithboy -> RE: Handling a certain woman (8/2/2007 6:58:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mirko It helps to know the bar staff, they are normally very good with individuals like this. The story goes that later on in the night she was pushed into a wall. She tried this tactic on a bouncer and it didnt go over very well. hahaha -- sweet.

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