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Bobkgin -> Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 2:54:35 PM)

Just joined collarme last weekend and things were going really great: a lot of positive attention and conversations.

But as the week went on, I found myself running afoul of two SAMs.

Wish I'd known they were SAMs, as I've never been able to figure out their signals.

Mine is the direct approach, and obviously that is what I prefer in return.

Does anyone have some wisdom on this topic to share?




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 3:01:08 PM)

If a person actually is a SAM, then mostly they want you to laugh, tell them you find them delightful and then beat them.

It's your choice as to whether you actually believe that or want to indulge them so well.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 5:04:45 PM)

and whats pray tell is wrong with laughter.. keeps the prozac way yep yep




Mystique567 -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 6:07:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

If a person actually is a SAM, then mostly they want you to laugh, tell them you find them delightful and then beat them.

It's your choice as to whether you actually believe that or want to indulge them so well.


What a perfect way to describe it, thank you, there is nothing better than laughter through tears




PsyVamp -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 6:16:44 PM)

I like a little laughter, and SAMs provide it... Of course, I usually am more amused by SAMs owned by others, and don't want too much of it in my own sub.
;)

Psy




lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 6:36:22 PM)

i have had some tell me that i am a brat but they have also told me dont get it confused with sam i like to make ppl lough but not at the exspens of another however somtimes i like to use colors like when i say baige that means is that all you have
or if i want to mess around and someone dosnt know what baige means wich i think is most used if at all is in MN where i learned it
i will say green wich is basicly me telling them harder more exsess or ill just turned around and say whats wrong feels like your fanning me ;)
but i dont say things to hurt the Mistress or Domme playing with me like some sams will do




leatherette -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 8:01:23 PM)

How did you find out they were SAMs in less than a week?

Online- many submissives are guarded until you show them you are someone they can trust.

( You didn't ask for nekkid piccies did ya?)





goodgirl85 -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 8:15:37 PM)

Please, may I ask, what is a SAM?




nyrisa -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 8:24:51 PM)

Not every smartass is a SAM. (Smart Assed Masochist). Ordinary smartasses and SAM's will often say and do the very same things. The main difference is that the SAM's will enjoy the ass beating they get, and the ordinary smartasses will only be surprised by it.




tsatske -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 8:40:03 PM)

I have never used the 'beige' (in my locality that is 'purple') safe word, or green. I once played, when owned by my last Master, with some friends of ours. They remained our friends, but after a couple of times, the Dom refused to play me anymore. I was sitting next to him at a munch, and I heard him describe playing me to someone else, saying, 'You can just tell she's thinking, 'Jesus, are you going to hit me anytime soon?' I was shocked, just shocked, I tell you. Because I never said anything to indicate such a thing to him. But, when he left, I did tell my Master that I had to fight off the desire to spin around and grab the paddle and tell him, 'Jeez, I could hit You harder than that!' Now, what I want to know is, how did he know? [8|]




mstrjx -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/2/2007 8:47:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tsatske

Now, what I want to know is, how did he know?



Your boredom, perhaps?  If I can't tell what's going through the mind and heart of a subject, even one that's not mine, then I'm not paying attention.

Jeff




Bobkgin -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/3/2007 4:33:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: leatherette

How did you find out they were SAMs in less than a week?

Online- many submissives are guarded until you show them you are someone they can trust.

( You didn't ask for nekkid piccies did ya?)




Well, when you've talked with and met enough people who do/live bdsm, you begin to recognize certain characteristics which one might describe as SAM-ish.

And I suppose I might have been more exact had I described them that way. To be honest, calling them "SAMs" might be a tad charitable.

I'd describe the qualities but SAMs and their fans hate it when I do that. I'm honest enough with myself to know I do not understand them well. Thus this question.

(And no, leatherette, I don't ask for naked pictures).




Mystique567 -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/3/2007 5:04:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tsatske

I have never used the 'beige' (in my locality that is 'purple') safe word, or green. I once played, when owned by my last Master, with some friends of ours. They remained our friends, but after a couple of times, the Dom refused to play me anymore. I was sitting next to him at a munch, and I heard him describe playing me to someone else, saying, 'You can just tell she's thinking, 'Jesus, are you going to hit me anytime soon?' I was shocked, just shocked, I tell you. Because I never said anything to indicate such a thing to him. But, when he left, I did tell my Master that I had to fight off the desire to spin around and grab the paddle and tell him, 'Jeez, I could hit You harder than that!' Now, what I want to know is, how did he know? [8|]


I know that anyone I have played with has been attentive to any signs that I may make, and although I don't consider myself a SAM I am certainly the M part of that. I think that any Top should be aware enough to know when a bottom is bored.




Aine -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/3/2007 8:31:20 AM)

I'm definitely a smartass.

I'm most definitely a masochist.

But I'm not a SAM, and I thank the heavens for it.  I've known a few and gawd are they annoying at times.  I'm sure there are plenty out there that aren't as annoying.  Then again, I'm sure I'm rather annoying to some at times, even without being a SAM.  *grins*

The best way I've been able to describe the ways of a SAM, is someone who LOOKS for punishment in any way they can.  They are the biggest brats I've ever seen and the best way to deal with them IMO is to stick em in the corner for some quiet time.

As I've seen, they will mouth off, misbehave, and in general just create havoc in order to get the beating they want. 

I personally take pride in being good in order to deserve and recieve my spankings. 




jellopet -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/3/2007 10:27:22 AM)

i don't consider myself a SAM, but no doubt in my mind that i am definiately a HUGE brat when i want to be. How each one of us reflects upon what it means for us is especially unique, as some consider a person slave, while others view that same person as submissive or bottom. i tend to feel that if i am being playful, yet still being respectful then i'm *bratting* - on the other hand, if my playfulness is bordering past disrespect then i am nothing less that being a SAM.




PairOfDimes -> RE: Sorting out a SAM's signals (o.O) (8/3/2007 3:30:27 PM)


quote:



Well, when you've talked with and met enough people who do/live bdsm, you begin to recognize certain characteristics which one might describe as SAM-ish.

And I suppose I might have been more exact had I described them that way. To be honest, calling them "SAMs" might be a tad charitable.

I'd describe the qualities but SAMs and their fans hate it when I do that. I'm honest enough with myself to know I do not understand them well. Thus this question.



I've found that people's definitions of SAM differ. Are they people who like a bit of sassiness and taunting with play in which they get to receive pain? Are they "brats," who like dynamics in which they pull pranks and otherwise misbehave in order to earn punishment? Are they dominant masochists, people who want to direct scenes in which they get to receive pain? Are they people who get off on the idea of submitting, and on submissive roleplays during scenes or sex, and who don't want to cede authority outside of playtime?




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