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Bobkgin -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 5:53:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lateralist1

Know thyself, know thy sub, and agree on discipline if required in the relationship. Consensuality in all things. I don't want to treat a sub as a child but if that is the subs need I have a choice live with it, and hope it changes. Or walk away.
Relationships have to fulfil both people's needs or eventually they will break down or just become a bad habit . Of course that's only a theory until I find a sub.


Hold onto that "theory".



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 5:55:00 AM)

i guess some subs (AKA brats, depending on their behavior) don't get any Scooby Snacks, huh?

LOL



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 8:27:00 AM)

Well it's definitely true IMO that most brats simply don't know how to feel secure in submission, they can't relax, they are scared to lose their personality and sense of self- so they fight against it.  They see the quiet sweet demure subs and think "OMG that's not me, I can't do that, I gotta be ME!"

They don't really see or understand how a person can be witty, smart, have a great dynamic personality AND be calm, quiet, graceful. 

They also find that they DO get a lot more attention (no matter what most doms say, they often enjoy a brat who makes it easy for them to beat) which certainly feeds into reinforcing the behavior.




Level -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:10:52 AM)

In the interest of brevity:
 
Level + brat = brat's ass out the door.



MHOO314 -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:15:09 AM)

Brattiness, bad behavior = banishment from Me, to another room, in the closet, or off line
 
Continued brattiness= dismissed for good
 
And I have a few boys out there that learned that lesson the hard way.



CitizenCane -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:15:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterMike04103

If a bratty sub is being a brat to get their ass tanned, I would do the exact oppiset of that and NOT give them any kind of punishment. 

Mike



This seems to me to put the sub just as much in control as if you did beat them for being bratty- that is, they can determine your behavior by choosing their behavior.



lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:41:34 AM)

i get confused if rewarded for bad behavoir but then agen
when you can get away with bad behavoir is with pet training ;) atleast this is what some very good friends have told me ;)
 
ross.g



MHOO314 -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:54:26 AM)

Recipe for a bad submissive---take said submissive out to favorite whipping tree, strip submissive naked, secure submissive to the tree---take a few practice strokes with the whip in the air, beat the tree, wrap the whip back up, give the tree aftercare, walk inside and fix a drink.



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 5:24:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

i guess some subs (AKA brats, depending on their behavior) don't get any Scooby Snacks, huh?

LOL



i'll take the lack of responses as a "NO"

LOL



Celeste43 -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:04:42 PM)

I brat as a way to make him laugh and also to start interactions without taking the risk of asking directly and being rejected. I don't handle rejection at all well, if I receive it then I don't ask again. However if I don't ask and don't receive what I need, then I'm unhappy.

This relationship has worked well for us for four years. But then again, he's not insecure, he has no problem with me expressing needs, and he will fulfill them if he can. My personal opinion is that men who are afraid of witty women are highly insecure. Since he isn't highly insecure, he has no problem with me pouncing verbally on him, as far as pouncing physically - he finds that entertaining as all get out.



lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/4/2007 9:42:59 PM)

i never get scooby snacks just bit smack LOL :)



came4U -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/5/2007 4:05:47 AM)

triple lols @ arbor-aftercare.

that made me sh*t myself, and it wasn't bananas omg lol. 



ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/5/2007 10:45:44 AM)

anytime I acted bratty I was ignored...once for 6 weeks...IF the dominant knows a sub is acting bratty to get attention, then OBVIOUSLY he would ignore her so that she doesn't get what she wants....



Myshkin -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/5/2007 4:56:50 PM)

I believe this is the reason communication is the most important thing in a relationship. To avoid any kind of frustration from those who are involved in the scene.  I don't believe a sub is looking to be corrected, but act out their fantasies.  We are all adults who can make decisions for ourselves, not animals who don't know any better. 

As long as you communicate your likes and dislikes with your partner, then you will find the scenes a lot more interesting for both members involved.

On a side note, if you beat a sub who doesn't enjoy it (for correctional purposes) wouldn't that constitute as non consensual.



LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/5/2007 5:23:17 PM)

omg i am living on the planet of the apes holy cow we are not freaking dogs. you people crush more magic in a min faster then the stock market drops. bratty subs or charmed people  as they are  known to be and are good medicine for the soul.  unless you love hight stress hight maintence hight blood pressurem prozac a min taking among other things. what i guess you do not like to laugh or have fun lol shakes oh well its on you



SireKane -> RE: Rewarding bad behaviour? (o.O) (8/5/2007 8:52:57 PM)

I have never encountered a bratty sub. I am heavily into corporal punishment. There is a different head space and energy when spanking for play than spanking for punishment.  My Subs who enoy spanking when playing, do not enjoy my spankings administered for punishment.

Kane 



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