MisPandora
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I have been curious about trying some play piercings. I have pierced someone for real, once, when I was working for a vet back in NY. There, we had easy access to the needles and such. Now, I am wondering where I could get access to the proper things for this. I know there are a lot of people into this particular kink, and Id appreciate not only advice on where to get the supplies, but also which gauges are best, and after care precautions (though I am pretty sure I know those).
Thanks everyone ahead of time
DV
Other than needles, don't forget:
sharps container
small corks for the ends of your sharps (requisite in most public play spaces who allow piercing)
chucks pads for your "clean" areas to stage supplies on (I know a piercist who uses dental bibs)
Surface prep (chlorhexidine gluconate vs betadine, depending on the person's allergies)
Gauze for prep, gauze for cleanup
tape for bandaging if you've impaled a large surface area and there is ooze from the removed puncture sites
Fun stuff to do with piercings other than just mess with the needles:
* elastic craft cord -- lace multiple piercings as a corset or make into a harp to play
* monofilament (fishing line) -- cleaned first, can be inserted in the hollow hub, the needle withdrawn, leaving a threaded line in the flesh -- get craft beads and make your slave a necklace or nametag or pierce decorative beads into them
*hotglue feathers into the hubs before doing the piercing
* impact play on top of the needles is intense. Those evil sticks make great tapping toys, as do chopsticks.
Gauge is a matter of of personal preference and the bottom's tolerance. The smaller you go, the less traumatic (generally) but you run a higher chance of bending if the person has tough flesh. (People on aspirin therapy should be stuck with the smallest gauge possible.) Small gauges would be a 25-27g. Moderate gauge needles can readily accomodate monofilament or silk suture material being passed through -- 18g to 22g. Large bore needles 14 and 16g mainly, will do the most trauma to the flesh and will be harder to stop bleeding from, especially if you're going to impale a cock with something that large.
Length of needle depends on application. Folks who do 90 degree angle piercings use very short (3/4" or 1/2" stub needles) -- I've seen them done into buttocks and breasts but really find no charge in that personally. I strive for balance, so generally all of my needles will be one length -- 1 1/2" allows a nice section of flesh in the middle that I can tap on, touch and create sensation play with. I do carry longer needles, IV catheter needles that are in the 2-3 inch range, and then up to 4-5 inch spinal needles and 6 inch intracardiac needles. I've found use for those specialty items on rare circumstances. (I have access to them.....)
As far as where to go to get them?
There are a number of SM suppliers that sell needles, but their prices are still pretty steep -- www.chaseunion.com, www.kinkymedical.com and www.bdgsales.com have all stocked them at one time or another.
Having access to medical suppliers locally (being in healthcare) helps in my case. Online suppliers can be tricky -- some really do pay attention to the requirements of scripts in certain states. Others, it can be harder to get sterile water for irrigation in a bottle than it is to get needles and syringes.
http://www.atlanticmedsupply.com
If I'm out of town or in a bind, I'll find a veterinary or agriculture supply place -- Tractor Supply and Agway both carry sterile needles for injections and will sell them without prescriptions. They also sell scalpels, elastrator bands, cheap riding crops, vetrap, JLube and veterinary length OB gloves (shoulder style) for the extra messy scenes at more humane prices than we see from kink retailers. When I'm not in the mood to buy a whole case of them via healthcare supplier, I go to an online veterinary suppliers (the ones I buy my dog vaccines from, since I admin all but rabies that is locally licensed and regulated.) It should be noted that, depending on the site, you'll likely not get a gauge smaller than a 20 or 22 on vet sites!!!!! Lambriar is one of those exceptions that stocks 25g needles.
http://www.lambriarvetsupply.com/sbsite.php?search_query=needle
I've also found accupuncture needles are useful in the larger sizes (the thinner gauges bend) -- http://www.buyamag.com/needles.htm
Other things to know --
* Always always always insert BEVEL UP when you pierce. The bevel is the natural cutting edge, and was designed to create the path through the dermal layer during the actual insertion.
* Insert as quickly as your skill will allow. Slow dragging tends to defeat the purpose of blowing their mind away with a hearty rush of endorphins!
* Surface piercings should not involve vessels. Carefully inspect the site intended for play and avoid incursions with anything colored blue! Should you hit a vessel, you may see a bruise or hematoma develop. You might also get frank bleeding from the wound -- either flowing (venous) or spurts (arterial, generally found deeper, or at hinge points like the thumb side of the wrist.) Knowing basic first aid before playing with invasive medical implements is tremendously helpful. Remove the needle, apply gauze/absorbent dressing, direct pressure to the wound and elevate the limb. Seek emergency care if needed.
* Don't reuse needles. They dull really quickly when they're going through flesh. Play piercings actually puncture 2 to 4 times depending on how many times you duck back and forth out of the dermis.
* Don't share needles between subjects. This is one of the vectors of hepatitis and HIV transmission -- blood to blood.
* DO NOT RECAP. Discard directly into a sharps container. Don't stick the needles into the sofa or the top of the dungeon table. There's a really gross study out from back in the early 90s about hospital beds and what grows inside of those mattresses from the terrible practice of dead-ending used needles into patient beds. You don't need a petree dish of MRSA or hepatitis growing in your playspace!
* Keep an accurate sharps count. It helps to count out the number of needles you're going to use. Count the caps. And when you're wrapping up the scene, count (or have your bottom count) the needles as they are removed and disposed of. You don't want to step on a loose needle, nor be responsible for someone else stepping on one!
* Don't put your hands in the path of the needle as it's passing through someone else's flesh. That's the number one way needlestick injures occur.
* While piercing with gloves on can be a pain in the ass, that barrier is vital for protecting the bottom from contaminants in their open wounds, and lessen your risk should a bleeding event or needlestick occur. The theory behind the latter is that the glove actually serves to squeegee blood off of the tip and shaft before the needle has the chance to penetrate your flesh.
* Try piercing yourself a few times to know how it feels. It's scary as hell the first time! I've also afforded tops that I was demonstrating to where all of the bottoms were needlephobic the opportunity to stick me, and I suggest to them that they experience it (either by their own hand or from someone they trust.) I've actually had a few subs step up to the plate and say, "Hey, if she can take a needle, so can I."
* Even though the blood is far less than you'd get if you were doing cuttings, this is still a blood sport. I personally know my infectious disease status BEFORE I start playing. Everything I do is designed to minimize the risks I take so I can stay disease negative. Everything I do is also designed to ensure the safety of my bottom AND of those in the environment around me during and after the scene. Hep Vax series on board, regular titers to make sure I still have antibodies, and I do periodic testing to ensure that I remain negative.
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