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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/8/2007 12:56:53 PM   
Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: devotedslave78

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How's that fucked attitude working out for you "devotedslave"??


Very well actually, thank you very much.  The few people I have found are people without all the bells and whistles of a pro domme, but with their Dominance and understanding of its root concepts put any one of those ladies to shame.  Our attitudes are born from experience, and when I first started looking into all of this, I did run into some pro-dommes (of course not in a client capacity).  It amazed me how little they knew about my passion.

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I'm not ProDomme, but I know a couple of them. Do you pay to go to a doctor? Do you pay for dentistry? For food in a supermarket which employs staff? Petrol? People pay for services, ProDommes provide a service. YOU may not like it, but don't take the attitude that you know what everyone else wants.


Well, true, somebody might like it.   Then again some like to pick up girls who walk the street corners.  Got a general distaste for that sort of thing - power exchange is too personal for me, and I'd rather share it with someone I am close to.  ...not some butch leather clad amazon in a cartboard castle. :)





Here is a newsflash..... I have asked several Domina`s here a question. Every single one has replied, regardless of their profile.
It`s a simple secret, treat them with politeness and respect and then you will get a response.

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/8/2007 4:01:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rockwell

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora


Taught from the Femdom perspective:  "I just got the 1000th unsigned, one-liner email that had absolutely nothing to do with my profile, with me, or with what I'm seeking.  You boys say you want to be pleasing and you can't follow instructions!  Ugh!   Hey You?  New guy! Don't DOOO that stuff!  "

Taught from the malesub perspective:  "When I was new, I used to send one line emails about what I wanted.  I didn't even bother signing my name.  What did I know?  They were quick to tell me to stop doing that.  Try paying attention to what she says she's looking for.  If you know you're not it, have some respect and don't waste your or her time.  Provide the information she's requested.  And be able to take a no for an answer!"

We've all got our own little pet peeves and things that disturb us about internet communication! I think that if you approach with courtesy, honesty, respect of my time and desires and clearly communicate -- you can't go wrong, even if you're 100% not my kind of guy.  You might still wind up with a "no thanks" but it's not the door slammed on your fingers if you were less of a gentleman.


Thank you, MisPandora and all dominas

I would myself not rely on other subs . I would seek permission to start a conversation with a lady. To find out her tastes and quirks and yes, to let her know ( without bragging) what I may have to offer her.
I would hope I had passed the basics early in life and am a indeed a civilized human.

I don't need some dude to pick up hot chicks. *
* please note how offensive this is if turned around.

Dear Mis. ( and all dear ladies) we are as individual as you.
( smile but you know that)



MisPandora: I am sorry that I came across a rude. I recognize I was unclear in expression. Please allow me to explain?
As you said, FemDoms have personal quirks, tastes.  I find women to be uniquely individual. I respect that.

Of course I listen and learn from any from all walks of life. I meant no disloyalty to my mates.  
Yet I'd think an individual, sincere, polite gesture or inquiry to a FemDom may be preferred to a stock line garnered from some boy who read it online and heard it was "the thing" to say.

Please Ma'am do note the crude phrase written above
was labeled by me as offensive.

All I am trying to convey is: I respect women as individuals.

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/8/2007 7:23:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: devotedslave78

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How's that fucked attitude working out for you "devotedslave"??


Very well actually, thank you very much.  The few people I have found are people without all the bells and whistles of a pro domme, but with their Dominance and understanding of its root concepts put any one of those ladies to shame.  Our attitudes are born from experience, and when I first started looking into all of this, I did run into some pro-dommes (of course not in a client capacity).  It amazed me how little they knew about my passion.

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I'm not ProDomme, but I know a couple of them. Do you pay to go to a doctor? Do you pay for dentistry? For food in a supermarket which employs staff? Petrol? People pay for services, ProDommes provide a service. YOU may not like it, but don't take the attitude that you know what everyone else wants.


Well, true, somebody might like it.   Then again some like to pick up girls who walk the street corners.  Got a general distaste for that sort of thing - power exchange is too personal for me, and I'd rather share it with someone I am close to.  ...not some butch leather clad amazon in a cartboard castle. :)





ROFLMAO. Butch leather clad Amazon in a "cartboard (cardboard?)" castle? You've been watching too many BDSM porn movies, I think. They knew little about your passion? You have met many ProDommes have you? Oh no, you said you had met some ProDommes, but hadn't met any in a client capacity. In other words, you're talking out of your arse on a subject you have no knowledge, or experience, of.  Perhaps your "learned attitudes" are the reason you're still searching.

Good for you that you are looking for a relationship or "someone to be close to". Not everyone is, and the OP certainly isn't. He used the words PS I'm not here looking for a relationship, just someone to talk with and ask questions, not expecting anything. While I am not saying anyone has to see a ProDomme, it was suggested to the OP a couple of times as a possible way of learning. That's the point of the thread. But remember, ProDommes and their clients have the right to do as they wish without being censured for it, just as you expect to have the right to do whatever it is you do.



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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/8/2007 8:04:38 PM   
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hehehe, you missed the point entirely.  ...and did I touch a nerve or something?  Just to let you know (and perhaps ease the venom), the "leather clad butch" was not directed at anyone here in particular. 

Mainly talking about my experience with them, and I figured I'd share it.  I stress again, they had little understanding of what this is all supposed to be about (for me at least).  Prefer not to have any dealings with them.

...and yes, I'm still searching.  Did that comment of yours make you feel better? ;)

< Message edited by devotedslave78 -- 8/8/2007 8:12:10 PM >

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/9/2007 12:14:36 AM   
MissMagnolia


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PMSL. Missed the point? Ease the venom? Stop taking yourself so seriously, you don't matter enough to make Me angry. These are forum threads, you say something, someone else comments. I was simply making a point on your ill advised comments and opinions about something you haven't experienced. Really, lighten up and realise that in the BDSM world, there is no place for narrow mindedness. Each to our own, whether we agree with it or not.

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/9/2007 9:21:49 AM   
devotedslave78


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Too seriously?  Are you kidding? :)

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you don't matter enough to make Me angry


Well good, I'm glad. :) 

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I was simply making a point on your ill advised comments and opinions about something you haven't experienced.


Well, if you say I did not experience it, I guess I did not.  <sigh>   Is there a difference between client capacity and non-client capacity?  Also, that is besides the point, did not have to go that far with this.  In both cases I knew we were not on the same wavelength when it comes to power exchange before anything happened.

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lighten up and realise that in the BDSM world, there is no place for narrow mindedness.


...and how does that relate to all of this, I have no idea.  I have a pretty open mind about all of this, believe me, more so than most people on here. 

I share the same "to each his own" philosophy.  I simply commented on people whose idea of BDSM involves a quality custom made paddle, a leather outfit, and over-the-knee spanking.  Again, IMHO, and from my experience.  Lets get over the idea that just because she is a pro domme she knows what the heck she is talking about. 

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/9/2007 9:30:27 AM   
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lostsub,

maybe post on your profile that seek a Femme mentor and let them come to you and offer to, if so inclined.

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RE: Dazed and Confused - 8/12/2007 3:19:22 AM   
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Hi LOSTsub,
Warning: What you are about to read is my opinion based upon my own experience and that is all. Take what you like and leave the rest.

I felt lost, dazed and confused many times myself. I have been lead down many roads to seek answers and most of the time, it took sitting still and going within. There were times I did need someone to talk to so I could then make sense of what was going on inside of me.

I have found if you approach a Domme with respect, then if and when she has the time she may be able to answer your question. Just remember that there are many men on CM who have no respect and many of the Dommes on this site are inundated with a lot of e-mails from fakes. I am listed as a sub in my profile and yet, I get e-mails from sub men offering themselves to me. I check the who viewed me option only to find they have not viewed my profile and are just sending out a one line form letter. This is total disrespect . If a person has taken the time to write a profile then read it. It will answer many questions about what that person seeks and this will give one a big hint if there is even any common ground to begin communication.

The content of your question or questions may determine whether or not a particular Domme on CM is willing or even capable of answering. It may depend on level of experience not only in BDSM, but in the school of life as well.

As for Pro Dommes, and I speak from experience since I’ve seen many in the past, just because they are a Pro Domme doesn’t mean they have all of the answers. Some are quite knowledgeable and willing to help. Others, well, let’s just say they don’t have many answers. I had some wonderful experiences with Pro Dommes and again, a couple of not so wonderful experiences. Some Pro Dommes can be extremely arrogant and expect you to act like their slave once the session is over. I never went back to those.

Also, get as clear as you can about what you wish to ask. In some cases it may be a bit difficult in which case be honest about that and ask if you can run some ideas by someone, or even write in prose, or however you can get it out. I have been lucky in finding some kind souls who were willing to listen or read what I wrote so I could get clear about my feelings and not feel so alone. One of my greatest sources is a totally vanilla woman. She is my meditation coach and never judges me and one time I read her some graphic writings and asked her if she thought I was insane and she just smiled and said I was right on. It’s just energy flowing through me and I was fine and normal. I was too ashamed to share it with anyone on CM and after sharing it with her, and not being judged for it I realized I could share it with others.

When it comes to protocol, well, that’s a different matter. We each have our own niche in the the world of BDSM and I am one who does not fit well into the old school and heavy protocol. Thus I do not respond to any profile which indicates that person is of old school since I know we would not be a match. (Back to profile reading 101). I am clear about certain areas, and yet know that I am a work in progress and what may have seemed unpleasant or terrifying yesterday may be less so today. Who knows, it may even be pleasant. And what was pleasant yesterday may seem unpleasant today. Just remember respect, read profile and offer thanks and gratitude for the time offered. Maybe ROR would be better (Read, Offer thanks and Respect). That goes for anyone on this site, Domme/Dom subs or slaves. Everyone deserves respect.

Also, there are some kink friendly therapists if you find you need some counseling of some sort. I went to one years ago when I was deciding if I should come back to the world of BDSM. I had a bitter taste in my mouth from some not so ethical Dommes and had a very negative outlook on the scene in general. I learned that just because someone calls herself a Domme or a Mistress and talks about safety doesn’t mean she’ll practice it. So, always make sure you have a back-up when doing a scene with a new partner, whether that partner is a woman or a man. Also, just because you met them in a BDSM group that is founded upon safety and ethics doesn’t mean they’ll abide by those ethics and safety rules.

You are a precious being, as are we all, so have respect for yourself and those you come into contact with. If your intention is pure and honest then that will show and you will find some Dommes more than willing to help you out. And you can even get support from your fellow male subs. Also remember that if you don’t get a response right away it is nothing personal. They can be very busy and may not have the time to respond immediately.

I wish you the best in your journey and hope you get some answers to your questions.

I leave you with a couple of quotes from that wonderful philosopher, Groucho Marx: “A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.”
“Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.”

_____________________________

"Drink from the chalice of truth. And when you are full of it...you may speak." Donna in the movie The Truth

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