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Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:17:08 AM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		I have seen where people keep liking to push things being more of a public nature in front of the nilla peeps even at work. do you think and employer has a right to fire you if your
  • talking about sexual lifestyle things at work
  • wearing sexual bdsm garb at work
  • get massive tatos that offend customers ( arms neck can be seen )
  • massive percings ( eye rings nose rings nipple rings that stick out
  • doing emails or surfing web sites of sexual nature

your thoughts
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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:22:20 AM   
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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:34:51 AM   
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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:36:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I have seen where people keep liking to push things being more of a public nature in front of the nilla peeps even at work. do you think and employer has a right to fire you if your
  • talking about sexual lifestyle things at work
  • wearing sexual bdsm garb at work
  • get massive tatos that offend customers ( arms neck can be seen )
  • massive percings ( eye rings nose rings nipple rings that stick out
  • doing emails or surfing web sites of sexual nature


your thoughts



What do any of the bullet points (except the second) have to do with BDSM?  I know many people who are tatted and not kinky.  I know many people who talk about vanilla sex any chance they get.  What makes you think that because we are BDSM geared we are the people who do these things?

If you offend people in the workplace with sexual information that is harrassment which is illegal.  So if you get fired it is your own fault.  Tats and things can be against the policy of your employer.  You know when you are hired what the policy is.  If you get fired for ignoring policy it is your own fault.  Don't like their policies?  Find somewhere else to work.  I don't know ANY employer who allows personal browsing and emails .....forget the whole sexual in nature part. 

If you are too much of a wanker to wait til you get home to do those things you need more help than possibly being fired.



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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:41:23 AM   
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My employer/co-workers would just look at Me, shake their heads and keep on going.


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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:44:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		i am a business owner and yes i would fire you.  you have a right to express your kink on your own time but shouldn't do it on someone elses who is paying you to be profitable to them.  you are likely to cause uneasiness with your coworkers who do not share your kink.  if you are in contact with customers you can make them uneasy to the point of not returning.  not to mention any lawsuits that you might cause if your employer decides NOT to fire you. 

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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:47:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I have seen where people keep liking to push things being more of a public nature in front of the nilla peeps even at work. do you think and employer has a right to fire you if your
  • talking about sexual lifestyle things at work
  • wearing sexual bdsm garb at work
  • get massive tatos that offend customers ( arms neck can be seen )
  • massive percings ( eye rings nose rings nipple rings that stick out
  • doing emails or surfing web sites of sexual nature



your thoughts



What do any of the bullet points (except the second) have to do with BDSM?  I know many people who are tatted and not kinky.  I know many people who talk about vanilla sex any chance they get.  What makes you think that because we are BDSM geared we are the people who do these things?

If you offend people in the workplace with sexual information that is harrassment which is illegal.  So if you get fired it is your own fault.  Tats and things can be against the policy of your employer.  You know when you are hired what the policy is.  If you get fired for ignoring policy it is your own fault.  Don't like their policies?  Find somewhere else to work.  I don't know ANY employer who allows personal browsing and emails .....forget the whole sexual in nature part. 

If you are too much of a wanker to wait til you get home to do those things you need more help than possibly being fired.




perfectly said

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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:58:16 AM   
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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 9:59:09 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		As an employer I can, and do, limit alot of things here. I also am pretty permissive on some issues. My graphics person has tatoos, piercings and did have long hair. Those were a none issue. How he dresses, his personal hygiene, and how he conducts himself around customers I am very strict about. He has been warned on occasion regarding his dress and reminded of the employee handbook that he signed. He was also told to go home and shower once.

I had a pressman that wanted to hang a few pictures of half dressed women in his work area. At the time I had a secretary that was a feminist so I told him no. She could have sued for sexual harrassment. When I fired her, for poor job performance, he was allowed to hang them in a discreet place, where an errant customer touring the shop, could not see them.

Because my employees and I deal with a diverse public we need to keep the sensibilities of that diversity in mind. We do not have to agree with them but if we want their business we have to do our best to avoid offending them. I also have to keep the laws in mind as to what can be considered sexual harrassment.

I can also (as I sit here reading and typing in my office ) discipline someone for inproper use of our company computers. We are fairly lax about that as long as work gets done and nothing gets displayed that will offend anyone...wether that be other employees or the customers.


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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 4:02:41 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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ORIGINAL: earthycouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I have seen where people keep liking to push things being more of a public nature in front of the nilla peeps even at work. do you think and employer has a right to fire you if your
  • talking about sexual lifestyle things at work
  • wearing sexual bdsm garb at work
  • get massive tatos that offend customers ( arms neck can be seen )
  • massive percings ( eye rings nose rings nipple rings that stick out
  • doing emails or surfing web sites of sexual nature



your thoughts



What do any of the bullet points (except the second) have to do with BDSM?  I know many people who are tatted and not kinky.  I know many people who talk about vanilla sex any chance they get.  What makes you think that because we are BDSM geared we are the people who do these things?

If you offend people in the workplace with sexual information that is harrassment which is illegal.  So if you get fired it is your own fault.  Tats and things can be against the policy of your employer.  You know when you are hired what the policy is.  If you get fired for ignoring policy it is your own fault.  Don't like their policies?  Find somewhere else to work.  I don't know ANY employer who allows personal browsing and emails .....forget the whole sexual in nature part. 

If you are too much of a wanker to wait til you get home to do those things you need more help than possibly being fired.




um they are all connected in one way or the other yepy ep

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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/7/2007 6:04:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would help to know what kind of work you do and just how straight laced the company is.

I am in a unique position in my field now and could do all those things, but I don't. I have a hard time fathoming why you want to, but different strokes for different folks.

The one main thing that differs is the tats. Plenty of people have them now, but not all have a tat of a naked Woman chained to a tree. I don't have tats, nor want any. I did offer to get one once for a Woman, but you shoulda met her. Looks were a solid 7 but her mind, I mean she has rebuilt car engines by herself. If I were to get a tat it would be in a place that is hidden even under shorts and a T shirt.

One gray area would be emails. Two of my emails have made my one employer about $1,000 richer. that's not much, but we have to do quite a bit of research on the internet and usenet. That place used to say something until I called the boss on the carpet with specific technical questions about work that I needed answered. Another guy worked there used to do his personal email, but he read and typed so fast it didn't add up to much. There was a problem later though. As a perk he was allowed to use the shops highspeed to download off a P2P network. (guys that do this kind of work are in very high demand) However, he eventually filled up the harddrive. After a heated discussion he was asked not to use the computer, but he then refused to do any research on it either. This guy was good, he even ripped the company off and didn't get fired, but he did eventually quit. I would never expect that kind of break.

Now collars, in today's day and age even a steel collar would usually be acceptable to many firms. Most of the tasteful designs would be considered jewelry, and people need not know that it locks, or only comes off with a special wrench, which is of course at home. But then most people do not undress at work. Some do though, to shower at the end of the day. I'd call that another gray area.

So at one place I work they are all straight laced, no smoking or swearing, especially goddamn. They are religious. There is never any talk of anything of a sexual nature there, even though for a time the one guy was downloading porn and selling disks of it on the side. Just don't watch the movies there. The other place I work, if you do not spend too much time, you can surf for porn. In fact every once in a while the boss calls everyone into the office to show everyone some cool shit he found. At that place as long as the customer can't see or hear it you can smoke and swear.

That place is a blast. One time I missed a day and said "Well I had a visitor of the proper...." and the boss said "Gender ?", I replied "Well I was looking for the word persuasion, but since you put it so ineloquently we can just go with that".

As far as bringing up the BDSM lifestyle, I do not admit to it, one place is too straight laced and I think at the other place people would start making jokes at my expense.

So tell me, why would you want to bring it up at work ? If the lifestyle is that important to you, you might want to see if you can get a job somehow in the industry. I bet if you worked for a bondage gear/chastity belt manufacturer I doubt they would have a problem with a piercing or fifty.

So the crux of the matter is where do you work ? I don't mean the exact company, I mean is it a bank, a car dealership, a corporate office or what ? And what do you do, do you interact with customers ? I think if you are in the purchasing or certain other departments the restrictions on dress at least would be more lax.

The company can be expected to act in it's own best interest. Considering that, you might be able to come up with your own answers.

Keep the two cents, my advice is only worth money when I am drunk, and I am not.

T

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Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/16/2007 7:24:48 PM   
subsue6


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Status: offline 		I agree with LaTigresse about the need for discreation in the workplace. The only time I had anything at all going on with a domme in the workplace was in a small temp employment office.

The owner, Carol, was 45 and a lesbian domme whom I had met at a party. She offered me a job, which I needed badly and went to work for her.

There was also a long-time employee, Ronnie, a woman of 40.
Although Ronnie obviously knew I was Carol's sub, we were generally discreet in the office. But if Ronnie was out (vacation or sick), then, if there was time, Carol might play with me if she was in the mood. But this office was so small, it was atypical.


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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/16/2007 10:23:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The employer should have the right to fire you for any of the actions listed, but of course that isn't the case these days.

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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/17/2007 5:55:38 AM   
earthycouple


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I have seen where people keep liking to push things being more of a public nature in front of the nilla peeps even at work. do you think and employer has a right to fire you if your
  • talking about sexual lifestyle things at work
  • wearing sexual bdsm garb at work
  • get massive tatos that offend customers ( arms neck can be seen )
  • massive percings ( eye rings nose rings nipple rings that stick out
  • doing emails or surfing web sites of sexual nature




your thoughts



What do any of the bullet points (except the second) have to do with BDSM?  I know many people who are tatted and not kinky.  I know many people who talk about vanilla sex any chance they get.  What makes you think that because we are BDSM geared we are the people who do these things?

If you offend people in the workplace with sexual information that is harrassment which is illegal.  So if you get fired it is your own fault.  Tats and things can be against the policy of your employer.  You know when you are hired what the policy is.  If you get fired for ignoring policy it is your own fault.  Don't like their policies?  Find somewhere else to work.  I don't know ANY employer who allows personal browsing and emails .....forget the whole sexual in nature part. 

If you are too much of a wanker to wait til you get home to do those things you need more help than possibly being fired.




um they are all connected in one way or the other yepy ep


Oh really?  So the tattoos my husband has makes in kinky. 

All people who peruse porn at work are all kinky?  Someone tell my exhusband.  After I left him that's why he was fired and he was not at all lifestyle

The piercings that many "goth types" mean they are kinky?

People who talk about sex at work only do that if they are talking about cuffs, spanking and cucking (for example)?



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RE: Bdsm And the Work Place - 8/17/2007 6:38:40 AM   
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